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Oddfellows Arms, 1920s (On left). Credit Roy Clare
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Oddfellows Arms c1920
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Oddfellows Arms 1999. Credit Martin Easdown
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Licensees
James Jordan 1847 1848
William Brooks 1848 1850
Frances Shovler 1850 ???? (Likely wrong)
Neal Dawson? 1850 ????
Hannah Neal 1851 1852
James Dawson Neal 1852 1868
(Later Albion Tavern according to More Bastions, but he died in 1868)
James Barker 1868 1870
John Carter 1870 1881
William Hornden 1881 1887
Ex North Foreland
George Hoare 1887 1888
Robert Carter 1888 1892
From Star (2)
George Whiddett 1892 1894
Frederick Coleman 1894 1906
Mr. Prior 1906 1906
Edwin Shaw 1906 1911
George Skinner 1911 1928
Florence Skinner 1928 1941
George Skinner 1940 1941
Ellen Skinner 1941 1945
George Skinner 1945 1961
Thomas Rogers 1961 1961
Charles Evans 1961 1965
Charles Price 1965 1967
John Conway 1967 1972
Peter Philpott 1972 1984 To
Ptolemy`s
Leslie Carpenter 1984 1991
Also Jubilee Inn/Carpenters
Larry Jeggo 1991 1995
Walter Darling and Andrew
Foreman 1995 1995 Also Ship Inn 1994-96
Roy Gilham 1995 1996
Roy Gilham and Louise
Brandy 1996 1999
Roy Gilham and Nicholas
McLaren 1999 1999
Roy Gilham, Nicholas
McLaren, Dennis Metson and Catherine O`Toole 1999 2001 Renamed The Front
Maidstone Gazette
16-2-1847
On
Tuesday last the brig Susan put in here, one of her crew having fallen from the
mast and broken his leg during the snow storm of Monday last, at sea. He was
taken to the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, where he now remains. This is the
fourth time the unfortunate man has broken the same leg.
Canterbury Journal
20-2-1847
On
Tuesday last the brig Susan put in here, one of her crew having fallen from the
mast and broken his leg during the snow storm of Monday last, at sea. He was
taken to the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, where he now remains.
Maidstone Gazette
9-5-1848
Tuesday
– Transfer Day: The licence heretofore granted to James Jordan, of the
Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, was transferred to William Edward Brooks.
Note: Earlier date
Maidstone Gazette
28-11-1848
Petty
Sessions, Monday; Before C. Golder Esq., Mayor, and W. Major Esq.
William
Baker was charged with unlawfully assaulting and beating M.A.R. Brookes, of the
Oddfellows Arms Inn. Fined 5s. and costs.
Maidstone Gazette
19-2-1850, Dover Chronicle 23-2-1850
At
the Petty Sessions on Tuesday the licence of the South Eastern Pavilion was
transferred from T. Algar to James Gaby Breach, of the London Tavern,
Bishopsgate, London, and the licence of the Oddfellows Arms was transferred
from Edward Brooks to Frances Shovler.
Note: Oddfellows Arms; Earlier end date for Brooks – and different
first name. Shovler previously unknown.
Maidstone Gazette
16-4-1850
Petty
Sessions, Tuesday; Before D. Major Esq., Mayor, W. Major and S. Mackie Esqs.
License
transferred from John Back, of the Radnor Inn, to Henry Waight; from Wm. Edward
Brooks, of the Oddfellows Arms, to Neal Dawson; from George Featherbe, of the
Cooper`s Arms, to George Bridgland.
Notes: Transfer at Radnor Inn is earlier date for Back leaving, and
if this is Henry Wraight it is much earlier start. Oddfellows Arms earlier
date. Should this read Dawson Neal? Cooper`s Arms earlier date.
Maidstone Gazette
20-5-1851, Dover Telegraph 24-5-1851
Petty
Sessions, Wednesday; Before R. Hart Esq., Mayor, D. Major, S. Mackie, and W.
Major Esqs.
Dawson
Neal, victualler, of the Oddfellows Arms, was summoned for keeping a disorderly
house. Mr. Sladden appeared for defendant, and objected to the form of summons,
which was dismissed.
Southeastern Gazette
13-1-1852
Wednesday, January 7th: Before W. Major and T. Golder Esqs.
Dawson Neal, of the Oddfellows Arms, appeared to answer an
information charging him with keeping his house open during divine service on
Christmas Day. After hearing the evidence of Superintendent Steers, who visited
the house between 10 and half past and found the back door open, he was
convicted in the sum of 1s. and costs.
Dover Chronicle
3-7-1852
On
Sunday evening last, about half past 5 o`clock, as the son of Mr. Neal, of the
Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, and another person, were driving a horse and
cart up the Tram Road, the horse, being a kicker, commenced plunging violently,
and continued unmanageable until it released itself from the cart, carrying
with it the two shafts, which had broken off short. It started up the road in
the direction of Folly Lane, where it turned round by the Swan, Grove Terrace,
and proceeded down Dover Street, knocking down and very much injuring a child
of Mr. James Robinson, landlord of the Swan. It was at first feared the injury
would terminate seriously; but it is now hoped that the child is going on
favourably. The persons in the cart fortunately remained uninjured. The horse
subsequently slipped off the kerb, and broke its foreleg just above the
fetlock; it ultimately reached the Oddfellows Arms, whence it was removed to a
field, and shot. It was a good horse of its kind, and worth about £18.
Southeastern Gazette
19-9-1854
Annual Licensing Day
Monday: Before the
Mayor, S. Mackie, W. Major, T. Golder, G. Kennicott, and T.Kingsriorth, Esqs.
Before renewing the licenses, the Mayor addressed the
publicans, informing them that anew law was passed, explaining to them the particular
features of the Act, and hoped they would adhere to it. The whole of the
licenses were renewed, with the exception of the Radnor Inn, Oddfellow's Arms,
and the Engine Inn. Applications for new licenses were made for the George,
Gun, and Belle Vue Tavern; the first only was granted, on the ground that it
was a new house in the room of one pulled down. The sign of the Fleur-de-lis
was changed to the MartelloTavern.
Dover Chronicle
23-9-1854
Annual
Licensing Day: Before the Mayor, S. Mackie, W. Major, T. Golder, G. Kennicott
and T. Kingsnorth Esqs.
The
whole of the licenses were renewed, with the exception of the Radnor Inn,
Oddfellows Arms and Engine Inn. Applications for new licenses were made for the
George, Gun and Belle Vue Tavern; the first only was granted on the ground that
it was a new house in the room of one pulled down. The sign of the Fleur de Lis
was changed to the Martello Tavern.
Southeastern Gazette
17-10-1854
Monday, October 9th: Before the Mayor, J. Kelcey and G.
Kennicott, Esqs.
The adjourned meeting for the granting of licenses was held,
when the licenses of the Engine Inn, Oddfellows Arms, and Radnor Inn, were
renewed, Superintendent Steer being desired to pay particular attention to
these houses.
Spencer Hayward, of Belle Vue Tavern, again appeared before
the magistrates, and produced a memorial, signed by a number of respectable
persons, seeking to have a license granted for his house, but the magistrates
declined to alter their former decision.
Canterbury Journal 2-6-1855
Petty Sessions, Saturday.
Dawson Neale, landlord of
the Oddfellows Arms, was brought up by warrant charged with assaulting John
Edward Freeman, a fisherman, the previous afternoon. The case not being proved
to the satisfaction of the bench, the defendant was dismissed.
Folkestone Chronicle
9-8-1856
Petty
Sessions, Wednesday: Before James Tolputt Esq., Mayor, W. Bateman, W. Major and
J. Kingsnorth Esqs., and Capt. Kennicott.
Richard
Charlton and George Clother, the master and a seaman on board one of the Dover
fishing smacks, were charged by police constable Lewis, with creating a
disturbance with some of the soldiers of the Foreign Legion, and obstructing
himself and other constables in the execution of their duty.
Police
constable Lewis sworn, stated that about half past seven on the previous
evening, being in Radnor Street, he heard a great noise, and saw a mob of
people. Clother was trying to get the prisoner Charlton away, who was much
knocked about. When I first saw Charlton he was striking about in every
direction, surrounded by 30 or 40 of the Foreign Legion, and some of the
civilians. As I was attempting to take Charlton into custody, the other prisoner,
Clother, took hold of me by the collar and flung me down. I recovered myself,
and then endeavoured to get him to the station, which I had great trouble in
doing. He was drunk and so violent I sent for the picket. The prisoner Charlton
was rescued by several of the fishermen, carried away, and put to bed.
Charles
Atkins sworn, said he saw the disturbance, although not the first of it. He saw
Clother trying to rescue the other prisoner from the police, but he broke away
from them and ran out amongst the soldiers, beating about them right and left.
Dawson
Neal sworn, deposed that he was the landlord of the Oddfellows Arms, in Radnor
Street, that about half past six the previous evening the prisoner Charlton
came to his house, being very drunk, and swearing that he would kill all the
----- soldiers, and wanted to fight with them. They said they did not want to
box with Englishmen. He then went out, came back soon after, and pulled one of
the soldiers out of his seat, when they all got up and went out, and the row
began.
Frederic
George Francis sworn, stated that he was at work outside his shop on the
harbour, with a dozen or more fishermen standing by looking on, when the
prisoner Charlton came up and said “If you want to see a ---- spree, hold on
and I`ll show you one in a minute.” He then went away, and came back in a few
minutes with about 40 of the soldiers, lugging one by the collar, and pitching
into the others right and left. None of the soldiers had any side arms then, or
the consequences might have been very serious. Several came down afterwards
waiting about ready for another outbreak.
Superintendent
Steer deposed that the prisoner Charlton came to the station, and asked for a
seaman that had been locked up. Lewis happened to come in, and said that he was
the man who had been taken out of his custody. I then told him I must lock him
up; he said we should not – used great violence, kicked police constable
Hawkes, and it took 3 of us to get him into the cell. Both prisoners seemed mad
with drink.
Charlton,
being the principal, was fined £2 including costs, or one month`s imprisonment
with hard labour, and Clother £1 or 14 days` imprisonment.
Southeastern Gazette
12-8-1856
Richard Charlton, a mariner, was charged with being drunk and
disorderly.
The defendant had
gone into the Oddfellows Inn, Radnor Street, about half-past six in the evening
of the previous day in a state of intoxication. He then commenced a
disturbance, and seized hold of a Swiss soldier who was sitting down, and
dragged him into the street, where he commenced a regular pugilistic encounter,
which soon attracted a crowd of soldiers and civilians, the prisoner striking
at every soldier of the Swiss Legion with whom he came in contact, and for whom
he appeared to entertain a peculiar antipathy. The police then interfered and
defendant was taken into custody.
Fined £2, or in
default, two months’ hard labour.
Southeastern Gazette
3-8-1858
Assizes,
Saturday, before Mr. Baron Bramwell.
Patrick
Sweeney, 20, soldier, was indicted for wounding John Else, at Folkestone, with
intent to murder him. Mr. Scobell prosecuted.
Prosecutor
said he was servant at the Oddfellows Arms, Folkestone, on the 9th
June. The prisoner was outside in the road and, as he passed, caught up a
brickbat and struck him with it on the side of the head, at the same time
threatening to knock his brains out. Witness then called assistance, and ran
away, followed by prisoner.
David
Marsh heard the prosecutor calling for assistance, and on going to the spot
found him covered with blood, and the prisoner standing near with two brickbats
in his hand. Prisoner was very drunk.
The
jury found a verdict of unlawfully wounding, and the prisoner was sentenced to
six months` hard labour.
Canterbury Weekly
Journal 7-8-1858
Assizes:
Before Mr. Justice Bramwell.
Patrick
Sweeney, 20, soldier, was indicted for wounding John Else, at Folkestone, with
intent to murder him. Mr. Scobell prosecuted.
Prosecutor
said he was servant at the Oddfellows Arms, Folkestone, on the 9th
June. The prisoner was outside in the road and, as he passed, caught up a
brickbat and struck him with it on the side of the head, at the same time
threatening to knock his brains out. Witness then called assistance, and ran
away, followed by prisoner.
David
Marsh heard the prosecutor calling for assistance, and on going to the spot
found him covered with blood, and the prisoner standing near with two brickbats
in his hand. Prisoner was very drunk.
The
jury found a verdict of unlawfully wounding, and the prisoner was sentenced to
six months` hard labour.
Dover Chronicle
7-8-1858
Assizes,
Friday.
Patrick
Sweeney, 20, soldier, was indicted for wounding John Else, at Folkestone, with
intent to murder him. Mr. Scobell prosecuted.
Prosecutor
said he was servant at the Oddfellows Arms, Folkestone, on the 9th
June. The prisoner was outside in the road, and, as he passed, caught up a
brickbat and struck him with it on the side of the head, at the same time
threatening to knock his brains out. Witness then called assistance, and ran
away, followed by prisoner.
David
Marsh heard the prosecutor calling for assistance, and on going to the spot
found him covered with blood, and the prisoner standing near with two brickbats
in his hand. Prisoner was very drunk.
The
jury found a verdict of Guilty of unlawfully wounding and prisoner was
sentenced to six months` hard labour.
Folkestone Chronicle 6-2-1864
Monday
February 1st:- Before J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
James Dawson
Neal, landlord of the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, appeared on a summons by
Supt. Martin, at the instance of Mr. Bamford, the surveyor of the town, for
causing an obstruction near his premises in Back Street, by allowing a cart to
stand there.
Leonard
Kingsford, P.C., sworn, deposed on Monday, the 25th, was ordered to
see that no obstruction was allowed in the street, in the way of carts standing
about. He observed a cart standing opposite defendant`s house, alongside the
pathway. It was 5 minutes past 11, and stood there till 12 o`clock and past.
The name on the cart was James Neal of Folkestone; the cart was empty.
Defendant keeps the Oddfellows Arms. Did not say anything to the defendant
about it then, but has seen it standing there several times since. Whete it was
standing is a public street. The cart belongs to defendant.
Mr. John
Bamford, sworn, deposed he was surveyor of the borough of Folkestone; knew the
Oddfellows Arms. The road at the back, Back Street, is a public road, kept up
and repaired by the Corporation.
Defendant had
no question to ask.
Defendant
said that he had put his cart there to load herrings from his stores; his cart
stood by the kerb, and the roadway was wide enough for ten carts; he was not
aware he was doing wrong in any way; he urged as an objection that it could not
be called a street, having only one side to it; it might be a terrace.
This,
however, was over-ruled by the Bench.
Mr. Boarer
said there was a difference of opinion between himself and his colleague about
this matter, It is at the request of the Nuisance Committee that this course
was carried out; it was a question with him to have inflicted a fine of 40s.
and costs; his colleague will tell you presently what he intends to do; if a
smaller fine is in accordance with his view he should agree to it.
Mr. Kelcey
said that he thought a smaller fine would meet the justice of the case; he
should fine defendant 1s. and costs 10s. The fine and costs were paid.
Folkestone Observer 6-2-1864
Monday
February 1st:- Before James Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
James Dawson
Neal was fined 1s., with 10s. costs, for saving his empty cart in the street.
Folkestone Chronicle 26-11-1864
On Wednesday night the
fishing boat Charlotte, of Hastings, was obliged to run into Folkestone Harbour
through stress of weather; the boat was run alongside the North quay, and the
crew went ashore for refreshment at the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street. One of
them, named William Noakes, left the house and went towards the quay to see to
his vessel; in consequence of there being no chains alongside, the night dark,
and being dazzled by the lights on the opposite side of the harbour, he
unfortunately walked over the pier and fell a distance of about 16 feet, by
which the poor fellow sustained a fracture of the left thigh bone. Assistance
was immediately rendered, and he was conveyed to the Oddfellows Arms. Mr.
Eastes and Dr. Fitzgerald were soon in attendance, and in about an hour`s time
the poor man`s thigh was set, and he comfortably in bed. Much credit is due to
Mr. Eastes and Dr. Fitzgerald for their prompt attendance, and for the very
skilful manner in which the patient was attended to. A little assistance to the
poor man by the charitably disposed would be gratefully received by the poor
sufferer.
Kentish Gazette 29-11-1864, Dover Chronicle, Kentish Express 3-12-1864
On Wednesday
night the fishing boat Charlotte, of Hastings, was obliged to run into Folkestone
Harbour through stress of weather. The boat was run alongside the north quay,
and the crew went ashore for refreshment, at the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street.
One of them, named William Noakes, left the house and went towards the quay, to
see to his vessel; in consequence of there being no chains alongside, the night
dark, and being dazzled by the lights on the opposite side of the harbour, he unfortunately
walked over the pier, and fell a distance of about 16 feet, by which the poor
fellow sustained a fracture of the left thigh bone. Assistance was immediately
rendered, and he was conveyed to the Oddfellows Arms. Mr. Eastes and Dr. Fitzgerald
were soon in attendance, and in about an hour afterwards the poor man’s thigh
was set, and he comfortably in bed. Much credit is due to Mr. Eastes and Dr.
Fitzgerald for their prompt attendance, and for the very skilful manner in
which the patient was attended to. A little assistance to the poor man by the
charitably disposed would be gratefully received by the poor sufferer.
Dover Telegraph
3-12-1864, Canterbury Weekly Journal, Faversham Mercury 10-12-1864
On
Wednesday night the fishing boat Charlotte, of Hastings, was obliged to run
into Folkestone Harbour through stress of weather; the boat was run alongside
the North quay, and the crew went ashore for refreshment at the Oddfellows
Arms, Radnor Street. One of them, named William Noakes, left the house and went
towards the quay to see his vessel; in consequence of there being no chains
alongside, the night dark, and being dazzled by the lights on the opposite side
of the harbour, he unfortunately walked over the pier and fell a distance of
about sixteen feet, by which the poor fellow sustained a fracture of the left
thigh bone. Assistance was immediately rendered, and he was conveyed to the
Oddfellows Arms. Mr. Eastes and Dr. Fitzgerald were soon in attendance, and in
half an hour afterwards the poor man`s thigh was set, and he comfortably in
bed.
Folkestone Chronicle 10-12-1864
Tuesday
December 6th: Before R.W. Boarer Esq.
William
George was brought up in custody charged with stealing, on the 8th
November last, a blue Guernsey shirt, a pocket knife, a pair of trousers, and a
neck tie, of the value of 14s, and 2 3/4d in money, the property of John
Benfield. The prisoner offered no defence to the charge, and the evidence being
conclusive, he was committed to take his trial at the next Quarter Sessions.
Folkestone Observer 10-12-1864
Tuesday
December 6th:- Before R.W. Boarer Esq.
William
George, a French mariner, speaking English, was charged with stealing a blue
Guernsey shirt, a pair of black trousers &c.
John
Benfield, mariner, living at the Oddfellows Arms said that on Monday the 7th
of November, prisoner was at the Oddfellows, and occupied the same bedroom with
him. Witness rose at 6 o`clock on the morning of Tuesday 8th
November, and prisoner and witness`s clothes were gone. The whole of the
property was worth 14s. or 15s. The Guernsey and the knife produced were his.
Richard
Seith, Deal P.C., received information of a Frenchman stealing the last
witness`s clothes and went with the last witness in search of him, but could
not find him. About three weeks back prisoner came to Deal again in company
with another man and witness apprehended him, he having prosecutor`s Guernsey
and knife then upon him. He then went in search of the other man who was with
him, and both were committed to Sandwich jail for three weeks on a charge of
stealing sacks. Prisoner told witness that he bought the Guernsey in London,
and the knife was his own.
P.C. Woodland
received the prisoner yesterday at Sandwich jail, and on the way to Folkestone
prisoner admitted that he took the things.
Prisoner now
said he came from Dover to Folkestone to look for a job. He was very cold and
hungry, and took the poor fellow`s clothes. He was very sorry for it, and did
not intend to do anything wrong. That at Deal was not his fault. The other man
did it himself.
Committed for
trial at the Quarter Sessions.
Southeastern Gazette 13-12-1864
Local News
At the Police Court, on Tuesday, William George, a
French mariner, speaking English, was charged with stealing a blue guernsey
shirt, a pair of black cloth trousers, &c.
William Benefield, mariner, living at the Oddfellows’
Arms, said that on Monday, the 7th November, the prisoner was at the
Oddfellows, and occupied the same bedroom with him. On witness getting up on
Tuesday morning, prisoner and witness’s clothes were gone. The whole of the property
was worth 14s. or 15s.
The prisoner was apprehended at Deal, with another man,
by P.C. Smith, on a charge of stealing sacks, for which they were sentenced to
three weeks’ hard labour, and prisoner, who was wearing prosecutor’s guernsey
when apprehended, was now brought up on the above charge and committed for
trial.
Dover Chronicle
17-12-1864
At
the Police Court last week, William George, a French mariner, speaking English,
was charged with stealing a blue guernsey shirt, a pair of black cloth
trousers, &c.
William
Benefield, mariner, living at the Oddfellows’ Arms, said that on Monday, the 7th
November, the prisoner was at the Oddfellows, and occupied the same bedroom
with him. On witness getting up on Tuesday morning, prisoner and witness’s
clothes were gone. The whole of the property was worth 14s. or 15s.
The
prisoner was apprehended at Deal, with another man, by P.C. Smith, on a charge
of stealing sacks, for which they were sentenced to three weeks’ hard labour, and
prisoner, who was wearing prosecutor’s guernsey when apprehended, was now
brought up on the above charge and committed for trial.
Kentish Express
17-12-1864
At
the Folkestone Police Court, on Tuesday, William George, a French mariner,
speaking English, was charged with stealing a blue guernsey shirt, a pair of
black cloth trousers, &c.
William
Benefield, mariner, living at the Oddfellows’ Arms, said that on Monday, the 7th
November, the prisoner was at the Oddfellows, and occupied the same bedroom with
him. On witness getting up on Tuesday morning, prisoner and witness’s clothes
were gone. The whole of the property was worth 14s. or 15s.
The
prisoner was apprehended at Deal, with another man, by P.C. Smith, on a charge
of stealing sacks, for which they were sentenced to three weeks’ hard labour,
and prisoner, who was wearing prosecutor’s guernsey when apprehended, was now
brought up on the above charge and committed for trial.
Folkestone Chronicle 7-1-1865
Quarter
Sessions
Tuesday
January 3rd:- Before J.J. Lonsdale
William
George, who stated he was a Canadian, was placed in the dock, and indicted with
having stolen on the 8th November, 1864, a blue Guernsey shirt and
other articles, the property of John Benfield, to which he pleaded guilty.
The learned
recorder said it was a heartless case, and committed him for three calendar
months hard labour.
Folkestone Observer 7-1-1865
Quarter
Sessions
Tuesday
January 3rd:- Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
William
George, 40, mariner, was charged with stealing one blue Guernsey shirt and
other articles, the property of John Benfield, at Folkestone, on November 8th,
1864.
The prisoner
pleaded Guilty and said he was a Canadian.
The Recorder
sentenced him to six calendar months hard labour.
Southeastern Gazette 10-1-1865
Quarter Sessions
These sessions were held at the Town-hall, on Tuesday,
before the Recorder, J. J. Lonsdale, Esq.
William George, 40, mariner, was. charged with stealing
one blue Guernsey shirt and other articles, the property of John Benfield, at
Folkestone, on November 8th, 1864.
Prisoner pleaded guilty, and said he was a Canadian.
Three months hard labour.
Dover Chronicle
22-7-1865
Folkestone
Police Court, Saturday, July 15th: before Silvester Eastes Esq.
Alfred
Noel appeared in answer to a summons, charging him with receiving three pieces
of lead between the 6th and 8th of July, the property of
James Dawson Neal, well knowing the same to have been stolen. Mr. J. Minter
appeared for the defendant.
The
depositions of J.D. Neal, Zacharia Pettmen, John Reynolds and William Martin
(for the prosecution), and of William Solly and T.J. Ledger (for the defence)
having been taken, the magistrate discharged the prisoner.
Folkestone Observer 22-7-1865
Saturday July
15th:- Before Silvester Eastes Esq.
Alfred Noel
was charged with feloniously receiving three pieces of lead line, the property
of James Dawson Neal.
Mr. Minter
appeared for the defence.
James Dawson
Neal said – I am a publican, and reside at the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street,
Folkestone. I am also the owner of some fishing boats. They generally lie in
the harbour. Last Monday morning my men missed some lead line from the boat
Nightingale, No. 19. Some days ago some lead line was shown to me, which I
identified as my property. The piece of lead line now produced is that which
was shown to me. I knew it by it`s make. The rope has been cut.
Cross-examined
by Mr. Minter: I only know of the loss from my men. I cannot say how long it is
since I last saw the rope. There are four pieces of rope now here. There are
only two lines, but they have been cut into four pieces. I may not have seen
them since they were made. The large piece belongs to the Nightingale. The
piece belonging to the Nightingale may have been made a month. The other pieces
I missed from my back door. I cannot say whether it is a week, a month, a year,
or five years. I identify the rope in the Nightingale by the net and spun yarn.
Zachariah
Petman said – I am a mariner, in the employ of the prosecutor, on all his
boats. I look after them all. Last Monday week I missed a lead line from the
beach in the harbour on which the Nightingale lies. I missed another piece some
time before Folkestone fair, belonging to the Jane, No. 20. Folkestone fair was
held on 28th June. This piece was lying in front of the prosecutor`s
house. In the beginning of July I saw the piece now produced at the defendant`s
house. The other piece now produced, belonging to the Nightingale, I saw at the
prisoner`s house this day week. I identify both pieces as the prosecutor`s
property. I know them by the cackling. The pieces now produced were originally
two lines, and one piece has been cut since I lost it.
Cross-examined
by Mr. Minter: The broken piece has been condemned for fishing purposes. I know
the rope by the cackling, which is done in the usual way.
P.C. Reynolds
said that on Saturday morning, the 8th instant, between three and
four o`clock in the morning, he picked up from the porch of the prisoner`s
doorway the piece of lead line produced. Superintendent Martin afterwards
showed him another piece, which matched at the place where they had been
divided.
Superintendent
Martin, last Saturday morning went with the witness Pettman to Noel`s house, in
a room of which they found the two pieces of line or rope now produced, and
which Pettman said had been stolen from his master. Noel was present at the
time. Witness then sent for the prosecutor, who came, and in Noel`s presence
claimed the rope as his property, and said it had been stolen a short time
previously. Noel told witness he had bought the rope of a man whom he should
know again, for eighteen pence. After a short time he mentioned the name of
Pettill as the person he had bought the rope from. Witness asked him if he was
in the habit of buying rope in that way, and he said he bought a large quantity
which he sent to France. Witness then said “There has been a piece of the same
description of rope found in the porchway of your door this morning”. Prisoner
replied “Yes, the man that I bought the other piece of called me up in the
night and left the piece for me on the step of the door”. Witness then took
possession of the two pieces of rope which he found in Noel`s room. On
comparing one of the two pieces with the piece brought by Reynolds they
matched, and the end of each fitted where the rope had been cut. Noel is a
fruitere, and witness was not aware that he is anything else. Was not aware
that he was a dealer in marine stores.
Cross-examined
by Mr. Minter: Witness when he first went in said “You have got some rope
here”. He said “Yes”. Witness could not say Noel said he told the man who
called him up in the night he would not have the rope. He might have said so.
Mr. Minter
addressed the bench, contending that Noel had bought the rope, except the piece
found in his doorway, which he had refused to buy at the unreasonable hour at
which it was brought.
He called William
Solley, potato merchant in Tontine Street, who was at Noel`s house a week ago
last Wednesday, about eight o`clock in the evening. A fisherman came to the
house with a piece of rope, something like the piece produced in court, but he
did not take any notice of it. Noel gave 1s 9d for it. He knew that Noel
exported old nets to France. He did not know the man`s name who brought the
rope. Noel did not take his name or address.
Thomas George
Ledger, agent to the South Eastern Railway in Folkestone, knew Noel, and that
he was an exporter of old nets to France in a large way. He was considered a
trustworthy man.
The bench
then dismissed the case.
Folkestone Observer 15-6-1867
Monday, June
10th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and James Tolputt Esqs.
James Hammond,
8th Brigade Royal Artillery, was charged with stealing a musical
box.
P.C. Smith
said: I was sent for by the landlord of the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street,
last evening about half past seven. I went there, and saw the landlord, Mr.
James Dawson Neal, and he told me he had lost a musical box. In company with
another man, who had seen the prisoner in the Oddfellows, I went to look after
him, and found him near the fish market. I stopped him and asked if he had
anything on him, and seeing the shape of the box through his tunic I said “What
have you got here?”. He made no reply. I then put my hand under his tunic, and
took out the musical box that I produce, and I conveyed him to the station,
where I charged him with stealing the box from the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor
Street. He said he knew nothing about it. On searching him I found 2s. 3d. on
him.
Dawson Neal,
landlord of the Oddfellows Arms, said: Prisoner came into my house with another
man about half past six last evening, and went into the sea parlour. They had a
pot of beer. The prisoner went out, and left his friend sitting. The last time
I saw him he was using very offensive language, and I told him if he could not
cease using such language he had better leave the house. The musical box was on
the table when he was there. The box is a child`s toy. After he had left my
attention was drawn to the absence of the box, and I sent for a policeman. The
man was sober when I saw him. The value of the box is 5s.
Prisoner said
he took the box, but did not intend to keep it.
The Bench
sentenced him to six weeks` hard labour.
Southeastern Gazette 18-6-1867
Local News
At the Police Court, on Monday, a gunner of the 8th Brigade,
named James Hammond, was committed for six weeks for stealing a musical box
from the Oddfellows’ Arms, in Radnor Street.
Folkestone Observer 29-8-1868
Wednesday,
August 26th: Before The Mayor, Captain Kennicott, and Alderman
Tolputt.
This was a
special session for granting alehouse licenses, and the various licensed
victuallers attended for the renewal of their licenses, the whole of which were
granted, with one exception which was suspended for a fortnight, until the
adjourned licensing day.
The license
of the Oddfellows Inn (sic), Radnor Street, was granted to James Barker, in
consequence of the death of James Dawson Neal, the late landlord.
Notes:
This date is in contrast with info in More Bastions, and there is no mention of
Barker. Actually refers to Oddfellows Arms. It also means that the licensee
listed for the Albion Tavern can`t be this Neal.
Folkestone Express 29-8-1868
Wednesday,
August 26th: Before The Mayor, Captain Kennicott, and Alderman
Tolputt.
The licensing
day was held at the Town Hall on Wednesday.
Transfer: The
license of J.D. Neal (deceased) for the Oddfellows Tavern (sic), Radnor Street,
was transferred to James Barker.
Note:
This transfer is not listed in More Bastions.
Oddfellows Arms, 1978
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