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My thanks go to Kent Libraries and Archives - Folkestone Library and also to the archive of the Folkestone Herald. For articles from the Folkestone Observer, my thanks go to the Kent Messenger Group. Southeastern Gazette articles are from UKPress Online, and Kentish Gazette articles are from the British Newspaper Archive. See links below.

Paul Skelton`s great site for research on pubs in Kent is also linked

Other sites which may be of interest are the Folkestone and District Local History Society, the Kent History Forum, Christine Warren`s fascinating site, Folkestone Then And Now, and Step Short, where I originally found the photo of the bomb-damaged former Langton`s Brewery, links also below.


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13th November, 2015: Folkestone Herald Reports for 1997 Added

Victoria Hotel, Middelburg Square 1986 - 2000

Victoria Hotel 1998. Credit Martin Easdown

 

 

Licensees

David Bumpstead and Noel Kebble 1986 1987
David Bumpstead and John Underdown 1987 1989
David Bumpstead and Thomas Rogers 1989 1992
Robert Thompson 1992 1994
Brian O`Sullivan 1994 1995
Stephen Frisken 1995 2000 Also Harvey Hotel



Folkestone Herald 10-7-1987

Local News

The theft of a purse and its contents, stolen between June 13 and June 14 at the Victoria Hotel in Middelburg Square, Folkestone, has been reported to police. The black leather wallet purse belongs to hotel manageress Beryl Underdown, and is worth £44. Since the theft, £300 in withdrawals have been made on a credit card that was in the purse.

Folkestone Herald 31-7-1987

Local News

An application has been put forward for a restaurant licence by the management of the Victoria Hotel, in Middelburg Square.

Folkestone Herald 17-6-1988

Advertising Feature

Folkestone was once a playground for Victorian holidaymakers and they flocked from all over the country to enjoy the luxury of the town’s seaside hotels.

The owners of the Victoria Hotel in Middelburg Square have recreated the comfort and splendour of this era in their hotel. To start with, they gave it its present name and completely refurbished the bars. They’ve now built a magnificent two-tier restaurant, kitchen and new toilets. In keeping with the Victorian theme his extension has been named the Prince Albert restaurant and it opens tomorrow. The design and decoration have been carefully planned to blend with the rest of the hotel, which was first licensed in 1866. The two-floored restaurant can seat up to 60 people and a wide range of meals is provided.

Husband and wife team David and Barbara Bumstead are confident they’ve put together a catering staff second to none. After all, David should know. He used to be a professional football player with Millwall and Bristol Rovers and knows what makes up a good team. They offer a full a la carte menu with mouth watering dishes like Prawn Charlotte, Veal Victoria and Chicken Forestale. They can also cater for business lunches and there’s a set menu for other lunchtime eaters. There’s a full roast lunch available on Sundays. Dining there will be a pure delight and an experience not to be missed. The atmosphere is timeless and relaxing and the food and wine excellent. With the new Prince Albert restaurant, the Victoria Hotel is the perfect retreat and no detail has been overlooked.

Barbara and David would like to convey their thanks to all the workforce who have done such a magnificent job in building the new restaurant.


Folkestone Herald 30-3-1995

Local News

Hotel customers took a journey back into the past to help make the future brighter for needy children. Staff and regulars at the Victoria Hotel, Middelburg Square, Folkestone, dressed up in wartime clothing on Saturday. Organiser Michael Gillman, of Military Road, Hythe, arranged for a three-piece band to play 30s and 40s tunes while he sang along. It was all to raise funds for youngsters` charity Children In Need, and a raffle managed to give the organisation a £135 boost.

Stuart Hickey, one of the hotel`s co-owners, said “There are a lot of people who want a return to the entertainment of the 30s 40s and 50s, and at the moment there`s nothing of that era in Folkestone”. He said the event was a success and he hopes to repeat it, with interest set to reach a peak during the VE Day celebrations later this year.


Folkestone Herald 4-12-1997

Local News

A charity darts event hit the bullseye the other day with a grand total of more than a thousand pounds raised.

Sixty people gathered in the Victoria Hotel in Middelburg Square for the twenty-four-hour event, which featured six players. They set a target of half a million points, and as the darts flew through the night from 4 p.m. the pennies came pouring in. The money will go to boost funds at Park Farm Primary School and the Hyperactive Children Support group.

Captain of the darts team, Mick Cochran, said he was delighted with the money raised, especially as it was the first time he had organised a charity event like this. He added “By 4 p.m. yesterday when the competition ended we had raised about £1,020. We were tired, but pleased with what we had done!” Mr. Cochran said he wanted to help the school and the group because his son was a pupil at the school and had also been hyperactive when he was younger.
 
 
 

Cherry Pickers, Ashley Avenue 1964 - C2014

Cherry Pickers, 2012. Credit Phil Nicholson (from http://www.dover-kent.com/Cherry-Pickers-Cheriton.html)
Cherry Pickers, May 2012
Cherry Pickers, 1978


Licensees
Royston Alexander 1964 1970
Gerald Rowe and James Cullen 1970 1972
Bernard Davenport and David Coles 1972 1972
Anthony Organ and David Coles 1972 1973
Anthony Organ and Neill Smith 1974 1974 Anthony Organ To Victoria
Michael McNelly and William Buckman 1974 1976 ?? Michael McNelly to Brewery Tap
Leonard Loader 1976 1980
Michael Higgins 1980 1992
Ronald Weaver 1992 1995
Joyce Meakin and Erica Giles 1995 1996
Keith Stephenson and Madeline Hurst 1996 1998
Corinne Stockton and Patricia Tant 1998 2001
James Reed 2001 2001
James Reed and Angela Simmons 2001 2004 +



Folkestone Herald 18-8-1962

Local News

Plans for a new public house at Cheriton were revealed at Folkestone Transfer Sessions on Wednesday, when the Justices approved an application for the provisional grant of a publican`s licence, made by Mr. Walter Thunder, on behalf of Mackeson and Co., Ltd.

Mr. Phillip Bratcher, representing the brewery, explained that his clients proposed to build a public house called The Cherry Pickers on their site at the junction of Ashley Avenue and Dennis Way, Cheriton. Outline planning permission had been given by the Council`s Housing and Town Planning Committee. Mr. Bratcher said that if the grant was approved, Mackeson`s would surrender their full off-licence in respect of premises in Ashley Avenue, owned by them, and known as The Imperial. They would also give up their “hung-over” full on-licence remaining since the war, for the Wheatsheaf, in Bridge Street, Folkestone. The Cherry Pickers would rely mainly on local custom, and not on passing travellers, for business. Mr. Bratcher went on to say that entrances to the saloon bar, public bars, and to the off-sales department of the new public house would be in the front of the building, facing the Ashley Avenue/Dennis Way junction. Mackeson`s intended to have a resident licensee on the premises, and would eventually apply for a transfer of the provisional grant to him.

After examining the plans showing detains of The Cherry Pickers, the Justices granted the licence.

Folkestone Herald 16-2-1963

Annual Licensing Sessions

Convictions for drunkenness in Folkestone in 1962 totalled 27, a decrease of 10 com­pared with the 1961 figure. But even so it compared unfavourably with the records of neighbouring towns - 12 at Dover, 12 at Can­terbury, and 15 at Ashford.

At Folkestone Brewster Sessions on Wednesday, the Chairman of the Justices, Mr. P.V. Gurr, asked the assembled licensees to watch this aspect carefully throughout the coming year. He pointed out that the figure of 27 covered only those who had been convicted. “You will all be aware”, he added, “that there are a large number of other drunks who manage to find their own way home safely”.

Thanking Supt. Peck for his report, Mr. Gurr said “I think we shall all regard this as very satisfactory”. He said that Folkestone`s average of 283 people per licence compared with 429 at Ashford and 258 at Canterbury. Mr. Gurr continued “Concerning the substantial decrease in the number of extensions of hours granted during the year, this, of course, is mainly the result of the general extension of licensing hours, and the fact that the previous block applications for holidays were not necessary to be made. With regard to the police visits to licensed premises during the year, licence holders will realise that these visits are not for snooping purposes, but with a view to assisting the licence holders in their operations. I am sure any suggestions made by police when they call on these periodic visits are welcomed and acted on by the licensees. In the past the General Annual Licensing Meeting has always been a busy occasion for the granting of new licences, but with the abolition of the Licensing Planning Committee and the Confirming Authority, and the new statutory provisions whereby new licences can be granted at Transfer Sessions, the work is now spread out over the year. The Committee have considered many applications for new types of licences defined under the 1961 Act, and we are glad to see that the conditions of these new licences are apparently being observed”. Continuing, the Chairman said “Magistrates are very glad to have had before them during the year various plans for alterations to public houses, and have been pleased to agree to these, particularly in view of the improved supervision for the licensees, and the provision of indoor toilet accommodation for ladies and gentlemen. Any further applications making provision of this type will be favourably considered by the Licensing Committee. During the year a provisional licence has been granted in respect of premises to be built in Tile Kiln Lane, where an existing of-licence is to be surrendered, as the way the Biggins Wood area has built up certainly calls for a development on these lines, and having this house on the connection between Canterbury Road and Cheriton will also offer advantages”.

Mr. Gurr ended by announcing that all existing licences would be renewed.

Folkestone Gazette 14-10-1964

Local News

The Cherry Pickers.

This is the name of Cheriton’s new public house, which will be opened tonight. Choice of the name by the owners, Mackeson and Co. Ltd., is a happy and also appropriate one, for it is not far from the old Cherry Gar­dens pleasure grounds, while it will also remind older resi­dents of that famous cavalry regiment, the 11th Hussars, who were nicknamed “The Cherrypickers”, and were stationed at Shorncliffe Camp at various times. They were among the Old Contemptibles, but long be­fore then they were known as The Cherrypickers,’ a name they earned in the Peninsular War, I understand.

Licensee of the Cherry Pickers, which faces up Ash­ley Avenue, is Mr. Roy Alex­ander, who is very well known in the district. He has run two other Mackeson pubs, The Three Mariners, Hythe, and The City of London, Dymchurch. He played cricket for Hythe, and is a Southern Counties Hockey Association umpire. For three years he was sec­retary of the Folkestone Licensed Victuallers` Associa­tion. Both he and his wife hold the Licensed Trade Diploma.

Folkestone Herald 17-10-1964
Local News

A new public house, the Cherry Pickers, was opened on Wednesday night to serve the Cherry Gardens District of Folkestone. Among those present to see the first pint drawn shortly after 6 p.m. were the Chairman of the Licensing Justices, Mr. F.J. Baden Fuller, and the Mayor of Folkestone, Councillor H.J.V. Johnson.

They were among the many guests who enjoyed the hospitality of the owners, Mackeson and Co. Ltd., and mine host and hostess, Mr. and Mrs. Roy Alex­ander, after the first pint had been drawn. This was done by 70-year-old ex-Squadron Sergeant-Major Harold Leakey, a first world war veteran of the 11th Light Dragoons - who were nicknamed “The Cherrypickers” as far back as 1811.

The new inn, in Ashley Avenue, even has its own ornamental flowering cherry tree planted in its turfed forecourt, while two of the bars are named the “Napoleon” and the “Waterloo”, after two famous varieties of cherries. The sign, which depicts two magpies feasting off a cherry tree, was illuminated and the neon exterior lights switched on during the opening ceremony when the managing director of Mackeson`s, Commander N.C.M. Findlay, R.N., (ret.), flicked a switch.

Apart from being named after the district in which it is so strategically situated, the inn also preserves the link between the district and the 11th Hussars, who were stationed at various times at Shorncliffe Camp. The regiment was nicknamed “The Cherrypickers”, so the story goes, after they were surprised by French cavalry picking cherries in a Spanish orchard during the Peninsular War. The men were forced to fight a dismounted action. Prints of the Cherrypickers in different uniform of the various periods of their history hang in the Waterloo bar, while in the Napoleon bar hang prints of various types of cherries.

The main feature of the Cherry Pickers is that it has been designed as a family house to meet the needs of a growing residential neighbourhood. The many modern comforts include central heating, and a cooling plant in the cellar. The large car park, which has floodlighting is a useful further asset.

Fifty-year-old Mr. Alexander, the man behind the bar, is well-known in local trade and sporting circles. He has previously run two of the company`s other houses, the Three Mariners, at Hythe, and the ity of London, at Dymchurch. For three years he was Secretary of the Folkestone Licensed Victuallers` Association, and lately has been managing an off-licence near his new public house.

Folkestone Herald 11-11-1972

Local News

Two men who set upon a third man because, it was alleged, he was sarcastic and provoked them, were told by Folkestone magis­trates on Tuesday their action was cowardly. Dennis William Pumphrey, of Brockman Road, Folke­stone, and David Robins, of Westboume Gardens, Folke­stone, both pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm to Mr. Terence Shillito, of Somerset Road, Folkestone. The two £21-a-week main­tenance men were fined £25 each and bound over to keep the peace for a year in the sum of £10. Mr. Shillito received cuts on his nose, a bruised back and forehead as a result of the incident.

Inspector Philip Roberts, prosecuting, said the men set upon Mr. Shillito as he left the Cherry Pickers public house, Cheriton, at closing time.

The landlord came to his assistance. Robins and Pumphrey, who are both married, went to Mr. Shillito’s home and waited by his car for him to appear. The police were called and the men taken to Folkestone police station.


Pumphrey said in a state­ment he and Robins had been drinking in the pub at lunch­time and put some money in the juke box The record started playing but Mr. Shillito turned down the volume. The same thing happened in the evening. They started talking to Mr. Shillito and, Pumphrey alleged, he was provoking and sarcastic to his friend, Robins. Pumphrey said: “We went outside and David and me jumped on him and gave him a good hiding”.

Folkestone Gazette 14-3-1973

Local News

During a disturbance outside a public house last Christmas Eve, a Folke­stone man had his nose broken. The story of the trouble outside the Cherry Pickers, in Ashley Avenue, was told at Folkestone Magistrates` Court Friday.

Arnold Robert Ryder, a medical assistant with the Royal Navy, was cleared of an assault on William Joy, of Woodfield Close, occasioning actual bodily harm. Ryder, of Gosport, pleaded Not Guilty. He told the court that after trouble inside the pub, a group of people moved out­side. He went out to see what was going on, and stood on the fringe of the group because he did not want to get involved. He heard the sound of breaking glass, and thought that Joy was threatening him with a bottle or broken glass. He punched him once in the face, then returned to the pub.

Joy said that Ryder had attempted to kick him, missed, then butted him in the face. His nose was broken, and he was treated at the Royal Victoria Hospital.

Folkestone Gazette 26-11-1975

Local News

Albert Edgar King told Folkestone Court on Friday that he tapped a window to attract the attention of an ex-licensee.

But Inspector Clifford Horrell, prosecuting, told of inci­dents at The Cherry Pickers public house at Cheriton where King had had several drinks and later punched a pane of glass which smashed.

King, aged 35, of Broadmead Road, Folkestone, ad­mitted criminal damage. The case was adjourned for re­ports.

South Kent Gazette 28-3-1979

Local News

Police are hunting several men who attacked a barman in Cheriton on Saturday night. But fears that workmen from the M20 motorway construction site could be responsible have been scotched by both police and local landlords. The incident happened at 11.10 p.m. in the Victoria public house, Risborough Lane, when barman Brian Brown told customers it was time to leave.

A police spokesman said that Mr. Brown, who lives in Christchurch Road, Folke­stone, received a bleeding nose, cut gums and facial bruising. “Navvies” from the Danton Lane, Cheriton, motor­way site were blamed for the assault because the assail­ants had not been identified and one spoke with an Irish accent.

However, Police Inspector Peter Ford told the Gazette “We’ve had no trouble at all from the site. If the situation with site workers continues as it is then we shall be perfectly happy”.

Mr. Brown was unavail­able for comment at the time of going to press but the Victoria’s landlord said “This is the first time we’ve had trouble in the pub since I came here three years ago”.

Speculation that motorway workers could be a possible source of violence was scotched by landlords at: The White Lion in Cheriton High Street - “So far they’ve been perfectly well behaved in here”.; The Morehall, Cheriton Road “Nice lads ... no trouble whatsoever”.; The Nailbox, Shorncliffe Road – “A bit noisy, that`s all”.; The Cherry Pickers, Ashley Avenue, Cheriton – “We`ve had a few in, but they`ve been perfectly O.K.”.

Folkestone Herald 15-10-1982

Local News

Sponsored runs, tugs of war, raffles and other events was how customers of a Cheriton pub raised money for a guide dog for the blind. At the Cherry Pickers pub on Sunday a £1,000 cheque was given by landlord Mr. Mike Higgins to Mr. Eric Heys, regional organiser for Kent`s Blind Association. Customers had been raising the money for about a year and the guide dog has been named Cherry after the pub. A picture of the dog was presented to the landlord and will hang in the bar of the Ashley Avenue pub.


  Photo from Folkestone Herald
 
Folkestone Herald 27-10-1989

Local News

Pub regulars had a special reason for raising money to boost the Royal Marines School of Music Appeal Fund. The £450 made on a boot fair held by the Cherry Pickers in Folkestone was to go to it`s chosen charity for the year, multiple sclerosis. The change of heart came when regulars realised why a friend, George Sketcher, had not been in for a drink for several days after last month`s Deal tragedy. George, a former band corporal at Deal, was mourning eight of the 11 bandsmen he taught, who were killed by an I.R.A. bomb at the music school barracks.

Pub fundraisers asked him to join a jazz jamming session at the boot fair and to present a cheque for the money raised to Royal Marines Band Sergeant, Andy Wall.

George, who once played with Count Basie, said “When I heard about the bombing I was really cut up and didn`t come into the pub for a few days. The people who have organised, come along and supported the boot fair are absolutely marvellous – I cannot thank them enough”.

Band Sergeant Andy Wall said “We didn`t know just how many friends we had until after the tragedy. The money raised will be put to good use”.

Folkestone Herald 11-1-1991

Letter

On behalf of Folkestone Old People`s Welfare Committee, the staff and clients, I would like to thank the landlady of the Cherry Pickers, Mrs. Jackie Higgins, and the committee members of the Cherry Aid Charity, Brian Baker (Chairman), Roger West (Treasurer), and others, who donated a cheque for the sum of £750 to Age Concern. The Deputy Mayor, Ian Parker, attended the occasion, which was a Christmas party for our members. The cheque will help fund the future development of the upstairs of the Cheriton Day Centre.

I would especially mention the efforts of the fundraising committee, which was set up two years ago. The Cherry Aid Charity has raised over £5,000 in that time by organising many events. We are indebted to them and to the customers of the Cherry Pickers for supporting our work for the elderly in this area.

Rosemary Braid,
Area Organiser, Folkestone Old People`s Welfare Committee,
Shaftesbury Avenue,
Cheriton.

Folkestone Herald 9-8-1991

Local News

Regulars of the Cherry Pickers pub in Cheriton have just handed over £2,000 in cash and equipment to charities. The pub`s customers and fundraising committee – known as Cherry Aid – stage events and competitions over the year to help those in need. This year they have included a fun day, a swear bottle and barbecues.

Kent Air Ambulance, Folkestone`s Adult Education Centre and the Multiple Sclerosis Society all received cheques for £500. Another £500 was spent on three nebulisers for people suffering asthma attacks. They were presented to two local doctors and the Royal Victoria Hospital.

Folkestone Herald 6-11-1997

Local News

A Poppy Day collection box has been stolen from a Shepway pub. The cold-hearted thieves struck at the Cherry Pickers pub, in Ashley Avenue, Folkestone, and took the box, thought to have contained around £10 in change. The box was later found with its top broken open in the car park of the pub. The incident happened around 6.30 p.m. on Wednesday, October 30, and landlady Mandy Hurst says she is outraged. She said “It is bad for it to happen, but even worse for that charity at this time of year. I think it is disgusting”.