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Thursday, 28 October 2021

Packet Boat (2) 1870s



Folkestone Chronicle 13-5-1871

Auction Advertisement extract

To be sold by Auction by Mr. Geo. Brickman, at the King`s Arms Inn, Folkestone, on Thursday, May 25th, 1871, at seven o`clock in the evening precisely:

Lot 2: All that Freehold cottage or tenement, with the appurtenances thereto belonging, situate in East Street, Folkestone, and having a frontage to the street of 21 feet 8 inches (more or less), in the occupation of George Fagg, as a weekly tenant, at the rent of 2s. 6d., the landlord paying all rates and outgoings.

The basement floor of this cottage is now used as part of the Tap Room of the Packet Boat Inn.

Folkestone Express 29-5-1875

Local News

We have to record a lamentable accident at sea, resulting in the loss of the lives of two young fishermen, and of the boat in which they were sailing. It appears that on Thursday, William John Smith, son of Mr. William Smith, of the Steam Packet Inn (sic), Radnor Street, a fine young man of seventeen, was engaged in fishing for shellfish in his father`s boat, accompanied by his cousin, John Bullen, of Deal, a somewhat younger lad. The lads were about three quarters of a mile from Dymchurch about 3 p.m., when some persons on the shore saw the little craft capsize under a sudden squall, and disappear. Three or four boats put off as quickly as possible from Dymchurch, but could find no trace either of the young fishermen or of their craft.

Folkestone Express 5-6-1875

Inquest

Last week we noticed the fatal accident which befell two young lads, the son and nephew of Mr. William Smith of the Steam Packet Inn (sic), who were drowned by the capsizing of a fishing boat off Dymchurch. The body of William Smith was recovered on the following day by Thomas Pegler, a fisherman living in East Street, in this town, who in hauling a whelk pot drew up the body, which had a cork fastened to the waist.

An inquest was held on the body at the Steam Packet Inn on Saturday evening before Mr. J. Minter, Coroner for the Borough, when the facts of the accident were stated by Thomas Winderberg, labourer, of Dymchurch. Deceased`s father identified the body, and Pegler proved picking it up. The jury returned a verdict of Found Drowned.

The body of George Bullen, the other victim of this fatality, was picked up on Romney Sands on Thursday.

Folkestone Express 30-10-1875

Inquest

About 3.30 a.m. on Saturday morning last the people dwelling in the neighbourhood of Radnor Street were awakened from their slumber by hearing loud cries for help. It afterwards turned out that a man named Alfred Harper, who was lodging at the Oddfellows Arms, was taken with a fit of delirium tremens, and after striking and threatening to kill a friend who was sitting up with him, jumped out of a window about twelve feet from the ground, and ran and threw himself over the quay close to the border of the South Eastern Railway Company`s workshop, into the harbour. The man, who was a good swimmer, appears to have lost all power, and was drowned.

The inquest was held at the Packet Boat, Radnor Street, the same evening at six o`clock, before the Coroner, J. Minter Esq. and a jury.

The first witness called was John Malin, who described himself as a labourer, living with the deceased at the Oddfellows Arms: I have known the deceased, whose name is Alfred Harper, about six years. I identify the body as that of Alfred Harper. He is about forty years of age, and by trade a tin and wire worker, late of 1, Portland Court, King Street, Ramsgate. He has been in Folkestone about fourteen days, and lodged at the Oddfellows Arms, where he continued to reside until this morning.

The deceased has not tasted a drop of intoxicating liquor since last Monday (the 18th), but previous to that he had been drinking very heavily. He has not been out of bed since last Monday night (th 18th) except to have it made by me.

I was sitting up with deceased last night (Friday 22nd). I sleep in the same room and in an adjoining bed to the deceased. After I had been in bed a short time I asked the deceased (who was very restless) if I should light a candle, and he replied “Yes, Jack, light a candle and come and sit by me”. I did as he requested me, and about half an hour after he jumped out of bed and began grasping at something he imagined he saw on the wall, and said “I have got `em. They have tried to kill me ever so many times”. I at last persuaded him to go to bed again. He was not in his senses. About 3.30 a.m. he got up and said “You still watch me”, and struck me in the face with his fist. After that he asked me to go out of the room. There was no-one else with him. After I left the room I stood and held the door, and then I suppose he jumped out of the window into Radnor Street. The room was on the first floor about twelve feet from the ground. I left the house after I had been holding the door about three minutes to go and seek assistance. I think he must have jumped out of the window while I was going downstairs.

Robert Smith, landlord of the Packet Boat, said: About half past three on Saturday morning I heard someone calling for help. I jumped out of bed and looked out of the window and saw a man lying face down and stark naked under my window. While I was dressing I saw him get up and run and then jump over the quay into the harbour. The tide was not quite high at the time. I finished dressing as quickly as possible and ran to the quay and saw the deceased floating head down in the water near the landing steps. I ran down and got him part of the way out of the water and called for assistance. My wife called my lodgers and all four came. We then got him to the top of the steps and rolled him. We afterwards brought him into the room and rolled him for one hour but without any success. There was about seven feet of water when he jumped in.

J. Malin, re-called, said: Soon after deceased struck me he pulled off his shirt and said “It is no use spoiling good things”, and told me to keep it in remembrance of him. I then said “You are worth twenty dead men yet”. Deceased had said he thought he was dying.

Dr. Mercer, a surgeon practicing at Folkestone, said: Last Thursday I was sent for to see the deceased. He was suffering from a slight attack of Elrysepsias in the face. I could see by the symptoms he had been drinking. I prescribed for him and sent some medicine.

On Saturday morning about three or four o`clock I was called and told the man at the Oddfellows was suffering from delirium. I gave them an ascetic for him.

About five I was again called and saw the deceased. I recognised him as the man I had been attending. He was suffering from delirium tremens, and in my opinion his death was caused by drowning. I examined the body and found bruises on the skull, face, and chest, but there was no fracture of the skull.

After a short consultation the jury gave a verdict of “drowned while in a state of temporary insanity”.

Folkestone Express 18-12-1875

Local News

On Tuesday afternoon a man named William Whitnall, a smith, living in Queen Street, attempted to commit suicide by jumping from the East Pier into the harbour. He was observed by a boy, who gave the alarm, and the unfortunate man was rescued by two fishermen named Richard Taylor and William Milton. He was taken to the house of Mr. Robert Smith, Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street. Though quite insensible, he rallied through the energetic efforts of Mr. and Mrs. Smith and was able to be removed home. Though much better, he is still in a very feeble state. We understand that the unfortunate man, who has been in a lunatic asylum, has for some time past been in a desponding state.

Folkestone Chronicle 30-9-1876

Wednesday, September 27th: Before Ald. Caister, Col. De Crespigny, J. Tolputt and J. Clark Esqs.

John Gurr, a young man, was charged with feloniously removing a cash box containing £61 0s. 8d., a solitaire, and coins &c.

Mary Smith, wife of Robert Smith, landlord of the Packet Boat, Radnor Street, stated that the prisoner had lodged in her house about eighteen months. On Monday evening she left her cash box in her bedroom; she last saw it about six o`clock. She had £40 in gold in the box, and one in silver; added to that there was £24 in the box prior to that; of these the sum of £5 or £6 was in silver; she locked the box but not the bedroom door. Prisoner came home about seven o`clock. When he came in he went straight upstairs to his bedroom, and in doing so he had to pass her room. He remained about a quarter of an hour. She looked out and saw him go down, but she did not notice whether he had anything with him. He came in about half past nine o`clock; he went out again, and came in about half past eleven o`clock. She saw him then; he went up into his bedroom, but came down again and asked her to give him a bottle of ginger beer. When she went to bed she did not notice her cash box, but she missed it at seven o`clock on the following morning. The prisoner was in, and she went up to his bedroom door and asked him whether he happened to be there. He replied “Yes”, but she did not speak to him on the subject of the cash box until her suspicions were aroused. Just before eight o`clock she said “Have you taken my cash box?”. He replied “No”. She then told him that she knew he had got the money, because she heard that he had been showing it. She asked him to give it up to her, but he said he had not got it, so she came away and sent for the police.

P.S. Reynolds deposed to going to the Packet Boat and taxing prisoner with the theft, who, in reply, handed him the stolen property.

The prisoner was committed for trial.

Southeastern Gazette 30-9-1876

Local News

At the Petty Sessions, on Wednesday, John Gurr, a labourer, was charged with stealing a cash box on Monday evening, containing about £65 in gold, some rings, and other valuables, from the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, kept, by Mr. Robert Smith, where prisoner lodged.

It appears that the box was not missed till early on Tuesday morning, and Mr. Smith, having heard that prisoner had exhibited an unusual amount of, money on the previous evening at once suspected him of the theft. When given into custody he handed over the money which he had secreted about his person. He was committed for trial.

Folkestone Chronicle 4-11-1876

Quarter Sessions

Monday, October 30th: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.

There was only one prisoner for trial, Matthew Gurr, bricklayer, who was charged with stealing the sum of £61 16s. 8d., a cash box, two rings, two solitaires, and three coins, the property of Robert Smith.

Prisoner pleaded Guilty.

The prisoner asked for mercy, pleading that bad company and intoxicating liquors had brought him to this sad position.

The Recorder sentenced the prisoner to 12 months` imprisonment with hard labour.

Southeastern Gazette 4-11-1876

Quarter Sessions

The autumn session was held on Monday, before the Recorder, J. J. Lonsdale, Esq.

The only case for trial was that of John Gurr, for stealing a cash box containing gold and other property of the value of £60, from his lodgings, the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, kept by Mr. Robert Smith. Prisoner pleaded guilty.

The Recorder said he had committed an offence which subjected him to fourteen years’ penal servitude, but, as he appeared to have previously borne a good character, he should only sentence him to twelve months’ hard labour.

Kentish Gazette 7-11-1876 

Quarter Sessions: The Autumn session was held on Monday week before the Recorder, J.J. Lonsdale Esq.

The only case for trial was that of John Gurr, for stealing a cash box containing gold and other property to the value of £60 from his lodgings, the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, kept by Mr. Robert Smith. Prisoner pleaded Guilty.

The Recorder said he had committed an offence which subjected him to fourteen years` penal servitude, but, as he appeared to have previously borne a good character, he should only sentence him to twelve months` hard labour. 

Folkestone Chronicle 7-7-1877

Inquest

An inquest was held on Thursday evening at the Packet Boat, Radnor Street, on the body of Patrick Hickey, who met with his death from falling down steps leading from East Street to the back entrance of the Packet Boat Inn.  Dr. Mercer stated that he was called to see the deceased, and found him insensible. The cause of the death arose from a fall, producing concussion of the brain. Isabella Wilson deposed that the deceased came out of his house in East Street and went to the top of the steps leading into the Packet Boat yard. She saw him miss the first of the steps and then fall over. She had seen him in the afternoon, and then thought he had been drinking. Corroborative evidence having been given by another witness, the jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death.

Folkestone Express 7-7-1877

Inquest

On Thursday evening an inquest was held by the Coroner (J. Minter Esq.) at the Packet Boat public house, Radnor Street, on the body of Patrick Hickey, who came to his death by falling down the steps leading from East Street to Radnor Street.

Mr. Richard Mercer, a surgeon practicing in Folkestone, identified the body as that of Patrick Hickey, who was a pensioner and bath-chairman. On the previous evening about seven o`clock witness was called to the Packet Boat, where he found the deceased sitting in a chair in the parlour supported by Robert Smith, the landlord, and perfectly insensible. On examining the deceased`s head he found a scalp wound about two inches in length and extending into the bone on the back towards the upper part. There was also a bruise on the left side of his forehead. The landlord told him that deceased had fallen from the back to the top of the steps leading from East Street into the yard of the Packet Boat. He was “a little fresh” at the time. Witness had the deceased removed to his house in East Street, where he lingered in a state of insensibility till eleven o`clock when he died. The cause of death was concussion of the brain and a fusion of blood on the brain, the effects of a fall.

Isabella Wilson, the wife of James Wilson, a labourer living in East Street, Folkestone, deposed that on the previous evening, between six and seven o`clock, she saw the deceased come out of his house in East Street and go to the top of the steps leading into the Packet Boat yard. He was proceeding to go down the steps when he missed the first step and fell. She saw someone go to his assistance, and as she was afraid, she left the spot and did not see any more of deceased. She saw the deceased in the afternoon and she then thought he had been drinking.

Hannah Harris, the wife of a fisherman living in East Street, nearly opposite the steps leading to the Packet Boat Inn, stated that she was standing at the door of her house about half past six o`clock on the previous evening, when she saw deceased come out of his house and walk towards the steps. He seemed to stagger a little, but she could not say whether it was from drink or from his being tired. She knew that he had had a long walk to Hythe. Just as she was going into her house she heard the deceased fall, and she ran to the steps and went down. She found him lying at the bottom on his back and she lifted him up. He was bleeding very much from the back of the head and was quite insensible. With the assistance of two of Mrs. Smith`s lodgers he was carried into the tap room of the Packet Boat, and a doctor was at once sent for.

The jury returned a verdict of “Accidental Death”.

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