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Thursday, 28 October 2021

Folkestone Cutter 1870s



Folkestone Observer 7-4-1870

Wednesday, April 6th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, J. Tolputt, and A.M. Leith Esqs.

This was a special session for transferring and granting alehouse licenses.

The license of the Folkestone Cutter was transferred from Moses Browning to William Baker.

Folkestone Chronicle 9-4-1870

Wednesday April 6th: Before the Mayor, R.W. Boarer, J. Tolputt and A.M. Leith Esqs.

The license of the Folkestone Cutter was transferred from Moses Browning to William Baker.

Folkestone Express 9-4-1870

Wednesday, April 6th: Before The Mayor, A.M. Leith, J. Tolputt and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

The following transfer received the sanction of the Magistrates:

Folkestone Cutter: From Moses Browning to William Baker.

Southeastern Gazette 11-4-1870

Special Petty Sessions

A special session was held on Wednesday for transferring and granting alehouse licences.

The licence of the Folkestone Cutter Inn was transferred from Moses Browning to William Baker

Folkestone Express 16-12-1871

Monday, December 11th: Before The Mayor, J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

Catherine Wilkinson was charged with being drunk and riotous in Dover Street on Saturday.

P.C. Robert Hogben said: I was on duty in Dover Street about a quarter to nine on Saturday evening, when I saw a crowd of people near the Cutter public house. Prisoner and her husband were there, and he was trying to prevent her from going into the Cutter, but she would go in and Mr. Baker, the landlord put her out again, when she began to call Mrs. Baker a rotten old cow, and a rotten old sow. I told her she had better go home, and she started up Dover Street, but turned back again. She said Mrs. Baker was not Mr. Baker`s wife, but was his w----. I told her if she did not go home I should lock her up. She said she would not go for any ---- policeman.

Prisoner: I hope you will excuse me as it is my first offence. I had been to Sandgate to get some money for some herrings. I went out to get some shop things and went to the Cutter to see if my husband was there.

Ellen Jane Baker said: I am the wife of William Baker, Cutter Inn, Dover Street. Prisoner was in our house on Saturday evening between eight and nine o`clock. She was drunkified, but not right down drunk. She called me a ---- rotten old cow. My husband put her out. She said I was Baker`s rotten w----. She knew her husband was gone. She had been drinking with him. He had a pint of beer but he was sober.

Prisoner: I went to the bottom of the street and the policeman put his hands on my shoulders and pushed me along. In the cell he threw me on my face and kicked me, your reverence. I said “You have got my purse with 7s. 9d. in it. I`ll see about it in the morning”. My husband said the policeman called me a “---- Irishwoman”, and that I was old enough to be his grandmother. In the morning I asked the policeman for my purse. I have nothing to say for myself, only I am very sorry.

The Clerk: You have given no answer to the charge. You have only made an accusation against Hogben.

Prisoner: I have never done nothing of the sort before, your reverence.

George Wilkinson, husband of the former prisoner was then placed in the dock by the side of his wife and charged with being drunk and assaulting Sergeant George Reynolds in the execution of his duty.

Sergeant Reynolds said: I was on duty at the Police Station about ten o`clock on Saturday night when the prisoner came up and walked into the station, the door being open. I followed him in and asked what he wanted. He replied “You ----hound, I will show you”, and shook his fist in my face. I told him to come in a proper manner. He then pushed me against the mantelpiece. I then put him out and told him to come in a sober and proper manner. He was drunk. He then used very foul language and caught hold of my whiskers and scratched my face. We had a scuffle, and when I got him into the passage leading to the cells, he clung to the iron bars and laid down on his back, and when I tried to get him up he kicked me several times. I then locked him up. (Witness showed a mark on his neck)

By prisoner: You did not say a word about the key of your house.

Prisoner made the following statement: I was as solid and sober as I am now, unless hard work would make me drunk. I don`t understand asking questions. The policeman used me in a brutal sort of way, and said he would have some more of us ---- Irish before long. My wife, who was in one of the cells, called out “That`s my husband. Give him the key of the house”. The policeman twisted my handkerchief tight round my neck and knocked my head against the stones, and blood came gushing out of my mouth and nose. He kicked me on the knee. He took hold of the hair of my head and my trousers and chucked me into the cell like a lump of wood, and said he would try to get me a Christmas dinner.

The female prisoner said: My purse was taken out of my pocket when I was put into the cell.

Mr. Superintendent Martin: Nothing of the sort. I was there when she was put into the cell. I did not see any blood about the passage or anywhere else. The female prisoner was screaming all the time her husband was being taken to the cell. Money to the amount of 9s. 7¾d. was found in the male prisoner`s pocket the next morning.

Mr. Martin, at the request of the Bench examined the male prisoner`s hands and neck carefully, but failed to find any marks of ill-usage.

Sergeant Reynolds denied having twisted the male prisoner`s handkerchief, or having used any force beyond that which was necessary to lock him up.

The female prisoner: If I had not screamed, the policeman would have killed my husband, your reverence.

The male prisoner: There must be some marks on my neck. It feels hot as if it had been scalded.

Mr. Martin again examined prisoner`s neck but failed to find any bruise or excoriation.

The Mayor to the female prisoner: You are dismissed, but let this be a caution to you.

The female prisoner: I am extremely obliged to your reverences.

The Bench, simultaneously: No thanks to us. We have only done what we consider to be right.

The Mayor to the male prisoner: We do not consider the charge of drunkenness to be proved. For assaulting the policeman in the execution of his duty you must pay a fine of 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or be imprisoned for 14 days with hard labour.

Prisoner: I had 12s. 7¾ d. in my purse.

The 9s. 6d. was taken from the amount found upon the prisoner, and the balance 1¾ d. handed to him, and he was liberated.

Folkestone Express 31-1-1874

Wednesday, January 28th: Before Col. De Crespigny, J. Tolputt and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

Transfer:

The following transfer of public house was granted:

Folkestone Cutter – to Louisa Smith

Folkestone Express 20-6-1874

Thursday, June 18th: Before W. Bateman and J. Tolputt Esqs.

James William Batt, coastguardsman, was charge with being drunk, and assaulting P.C. Smith. Prisoner pleaded Guilty of being drunk, but denied assaulting the constable.

P.C. Smith said he was on duty in Dover Street about half past twelve on Wednesday morning, when some men were standing near the Folkestone Cutter, talking very loudly. He went to them and told them to go home, when the prisoner came up very drunk and went up against one of the men, and said he could “pull his flannel off” to them. One of the men said “There is a bobby. He will soon set you a-going”. Prisoner replied that he did not care for a bobby, and he would pull his flannel off to him. Witness then told him to go home, and if he did not he would lock him up, and whilst witness had his back to prisoner he struck him on the head and knocked him down. All the men went away. Witness got up and closed with prisoner and fell, witness being at the bottom. Mr. Durden coming up at the time, witness charged him to assist him, and with his assistance prisoner was locked up.

By prisoner: I did not throw you down and then stamp on you.

Mr. Durden said prisoner had only recently joined the coastguard, and he had no complaints against him. He had just left the navy, and perhaps had hardly sown all his wild oats. He would be punished by the authorities.

Mr. Bateman remarked that he was happy to say that he could not remember a coastguardsman being brought before the Bench, and the corps in Folkestone were the best conducted set of men. Assaulting the police was a very serious offence. Prisoner might be fined £20, or sent to prison for six months, but in consideration of the good conduct of the corps he would only be fined 5s. for being drunk, and 10s. for assaulting the police, or 14 days1 hard labour in default.

At the request of prisoner, Mr. Durden paid the money, amounting to £1 3s.

Folkestone Express 1-8-1874

Saturday, July 25th: Before The Mayor, J. Tolputt and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

Louisa Smith, Folkestone Cutter, was summoned on a charge of opening her house for the sale of intoxicating liquors on the morning of the 21st of July.

Defendant, misunderstanding the charge, at first pleaded Guilty of admitting three men into the house, but said it was not for the purpose of serving them, and then afterwards pleaded Not Guilty.

P.C. Swain deposed: At a quarter past twelve on the morning of the 21st instant i saw three men go into the Cutter by the side door, being admitted after they had knocked. I knew two of the men by name, but could not see the other distinctly. On trying the door I found it was locked, and then went in search of the Superintendent or Sergeant. I found the Superintendent, who accompanied me to the Cutter in about eight minutes. The Superintendent went to the back and I went to the side door. I knocked at the door and after about two minutes I was admitted at the side door by defendant. I asked her who she had in the house, and she said “No-one”.  I then said “Where are the three men that entered the house a few minutes since?” She replied “They are not here; they are gone out”. We then searched the bar and tap room, but found no-one there. On going into the back yard I found the same three men concealed on a small outhouse. The Superintendent asked them what they were doing there, and they said they had come in to get a drop of something to drink after being on the water, but they did not have anything. We then returned into the house and asked defendant if she had anyone in the house and she said “No”. I then requested her to open the door of the bar parlour, which was locked, and found two men there. They said they had been locked in the room and could not get out. There was no light in the room, but there were two empty glasses on the table.

Superintendent Wilshere corroborated the last witness, and said he received the letter produced from defendant, in which she asked him to look over the offence, which should not occur again.

Defendant said she had some lodgers, and was sitting up for them, and she thought it was they who knocked at the door and therefore opened it, omitting first to ask them who they were. In answer to the Mayor, she said the other two men were waiting to go out, and she had not drawn them anything after twelve o`clock.

The Superintendent said the house had been well conducted lately.

Defendant was fined the lowest amount, viz., £1 and 10s. costs.

Alfred Rumsey, William Powell, and William Adams were summoned for being in the Cutter during prohibited hours on the day named in the last case.

Adams did not appear, and as it was shown that he was away from home when the summons was served, a fresh summons was ordered to be issued.

Rumsey and Powell pleaded Guilty and said they had been on the water for some hours, and knocked at the door and asked for something to drink, but were refused.

The Clerk: What did you hide up for?

Fined 1s. and 9s. costs each.

Folkestone Chronicle 6-3-1875

Wednesday, March 3rd: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.

Louisa Smith, landlady of the Cutter Inn, was summoned for harbouring prostitutes on the 19th inst.

Mr. Mowll, of Dover, defended.

P.C. Ovenden stated that on the previous Friday evening he went to the Cutter, and found two prostitutes in the bar with some sailors. He visited the house later in the evening, when he found four prostitutes and other females in the bar. He had no concersation with the landlady on either occasion.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll: Had been in the force for 20 years, and had particularly watched this, and four houses, because of numerous complaints, but had not observed any breach of the Licensing Act, besides allowing prostitutes to continue in the bar at unreasonable hours.

Mr. Mowll characterised the charge as a most frivolous one, and considered that no case had been made out against defendant. If the Bench thought necessary, he would put defendant in the witness box.

The magistrates expressed it as their opinion that the police had discharged their duty in bringing the case forward, but they thought the constable ought to have warned defendant when he first entered the house. The case was very weak, and would be dismissed.

Folkestone Express 6-3-1875

Wednesday, March 3rd: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.

Mrs. Louisa Smith, of the Cutter Inn, Dover Street, was charged with having permitted her house, on the 19th ult., to be the resort of persons reputed to be prostitutes. Mr. Mowll appeared for defendant.

P.C. Ovenden said on the night of the 19th ult. he entered the Cutter Inn, Dover Street, and there saw two prostitutes with some sailors. He had previously cautioned the defendant, but not on that day. Witness returned an hour and a half later and saw the two women he first saw, and two others, besides some women whose character he did not know. The sailors were still there, but no refreshments passed. He did not speak to the landlady, but went out again and watched the house. In about half or three quarters of an hour they left. The house was closed at the proper hour, when no prostitutes were in it.

Mr. Mowll asked if he need trouble the Bench with a cross-examination, for he considered that no case had been made out. The constable did not know the defendant.

The Mayor replied that Mr. Mowll must use his own discretion in the matter.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll: Have been in the force 20 years. Have been frequently of late employed to go into public houses. There are about five houses in Folkestone that are frequented by prostitutes for the purposes of refreshment. No onjection was raised at witness`s entering the back room, and no attempt was made to conceal anything. Have been in the house several times during the fortnight, sometimes two or three times during the night. He had visited the houses in consequence of complaints made to him of the manner in which the house was conducted. He would swear that these complaints were not made by other publicans. During his visits had never seen girl in the back room, but only in front and at the side of the bar.

Mr. Mowll then addressed the Bench for the defence. He drew the inference from the fact that the policeman did not warn the defendant of the presence of the women and advise her to get rid of them, that he thought the case of no importance till he had seen his superior officer. He called it an extraordinary case, and must say that the police took a fatherly interest in the house if they visited twenty or thirty times in a fortnight. There was not, he maintained, a scintilla of evidence against the defendant, except that the girls took half an hour to drink their beer and have a chat, which would be a very nice point. He was instructed to defend by Mr. Ash, of Canterbury, the owner of the house, who was very anxious his house should be well conducted. The defendant had been in the house 14 months, and though it was a rough neighbourhood, she had been only once convicted by the Bench, when she was not represented by a solicitor.

The Mayor said the Bench were of opinion that the police had only done their duty in bringing forward the case, but it was to be regretted that the constable had not warned the defendant. The case itself was a very weak one, and would therefore be dismissed. At the same time defendant must be careful how she conducted her house in the future, as many complaints had been made of the way in which some houses were being carried on.

Joshua Anthony, a seaman, was charged with being drunk and disorderly in Dover Street on Tuesday night.

Superintendent Wilshere said that the previous night he heard that a disturbance took place at the Cutter Inn, when defendant and another man were fighting in the house. They ran away, and an hour afterwards he found defendant drunk and quarrelsome in the Crown And Anchor Inn. This was the third time defendant had been found fighting in the street since he had been in the town.

Fined 10s. and 8s. 6d. costs or fourteen days. As his captain would not advance the money defendant went to gaol.

Folkestone Express 4-3-1876

Saturday, February 26th: Before The Mayor, Ald. Caister, W,J, Jeffreason Esq., and Col. De Crespigny.

Minnie Smith and Elizabeth Dyce were summoned for being drunk and disorderly in Dover Street on the 21st February.

Dyce did not appear.

Mr. Superintendent Wilshere said that shortly after ten o`clock on the evening in question he saw the defendant fighting with the woman Dyce outside the Cutter public house. They had their clothes off and there was a great disturbance in the street. Defendant, who was drunk, was pulled away by two more women, who put her clothes on.

In explanation “Minnie” said that the other woman struck her first and she “was not going to stand that”. She called another “unfortunate” as a witness, but her evidence did not materially affect the case.

The Mayor said that three-fourths of the time of the Bench was taken up in trying cases of that kind, and they were determined to put a stop to it. They fined defendant 7s. 6d., and 11s. costs, or in default 14 days` imprisonment.

The money was paid by one of “Minnie”`s friends.

A warrant was issued for the apprehension of Dyce.

Mary Kelly was brought up on a warrant, charged with being drunk in Dover Street on the 12th Feb.

Prisoner pleaded Guilty.

It appeared that “Mary” was found lying on the pavement opposite the Cutter and was with difficulty removed.

The Bench fined her 10s., and 13s. 6d. costs, in default fourteen days` with hard labour.

Folkestone Express 1-4-1876

Saturday, March 25th: efore The Mayor, Col. De Crespigny, W.J. Jeffreason, T. Caister, and J. Clark Esqs.

Ellen Stace, a well known character, was charged with assaulting Louisa Smith, at the Cutter Inn, Dover Street, on the 17th March.

Defendant, in reply to the Bench, acknowledged being guilty of an insult, but not of an assault.

Louisa Smith said she was landlady of the Cutter Inn. The defendant came in the bar, but she would not serve her. Witness then asked the defendant to go out, but the latter still refused. After a short time defendant went out, but returned in about ten minutes` time. She then struck witness in the face and called her names. Ultimately a young man who was in the bar put the defendant out.

In answer to the Bench, Mrs. Smith said it was St. Patrick`s Day and defendant had been both drinking and fighting.

Defendant: You`re a bad woman. I never struck you.

Mrs. Smith: Yes you did.

Defendant: Oh! You are a bad woman.

Defendant called a witness named Mary McKenzie, but her evidence did not tend much in favour of defendant.

The Bench fined defendant 5s. and 9s. costs, or in default to be imprisoned for seven days with hard labour.

Folkestone Express 29-4-1876

Thursday, April 27th: Before The Mayor, Captain Crowe, Captain Fletcher, J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

James Clarke, who said he had belonged to the 48th Regiment, and had served in the Crimea and India, was charged with being drunk and disorderly in Dover Street on the previous evening.

Superintendent Wilshere said that at about half past eight o`clock on the evening in question he was sent for to Dover Street and found the prisoner opposite the Cutter Inn. Prisoner was very drunk and was challenging to fight some Guardsmen, saying “Come on. I`m one of the Royal Irish”. He took him into custody, as he refused to go away.

Prisoner, who from his unmistakable brogue was evidently a “gem of the Emerald Isle” persisted in asking the Superintendent if he was “shure” that he wanted to fight.

“James” was mulcted in the sum of 5s. and costs, but not having the amount at command was provided with board and residence and a suitable amount of exercise at the expense of the borough.

Folkestone Express 12-8-1876

Wednesday, August 9th: Before The Mayor, General Cannon, Alderman Caister, J. Tolputt, J. Clark, and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

Transfer of License:

The license of the Cutter Inn, Dover Street was transferred from Mrs. Smith to Frederick Wallis.

Folkestone Express 23-9-1876

Saturday, September 16th: Before J. Tolputt and W.J. Jeffreason Esqs., and Captain Crowe.

The Folkestone Cutter

This was an action brought by Superintendent Wilshere against Frederick Wallis, the keeper of the above house, for harbouring members of the “social evil”.

The evidence of the police was to the effect that the Superintendent, with one or two of his men, visited the place at quarter to ten on the 11th inst., when they saw some women of light fame drinking in front of the bar, and others at the back. Some of those seen at quarter to ten were also there at ten minutes to eleven. Just before eleven o`clock the Superintendent called the landlord`s attention to one of these women being in the vicinity of the room where the soldiers congregate. The landlord followed him out into the street and told him he was trying to ruin the business, and that the best way would be to take out a summons, and then the neighbours could be called to come up to testify as at the manner in which he kept his house. The Superintendent visited the place three times that night, viz., quarter to ten, ten minutes to eleven and five minutes to eleven o`clock. A number of the same women were there from first to last. The house had been a continual source of annoyance.

It was pointed out that the summons referred to the 12th, but this was stated to be an oversight, and to claim exemption on this head would only give extra trouble to all parties of commencing proceedings de novo. It was therefore agreed that the summons should be amended.

The evidence of the police was all of the same purport, and was to the effect that the persons referred to were drinking in the house and that Superintendent Wilshere cautioned the landlord when he left the house.

In reply to the Bench it was stated that no gambling was seen.

Mr. Minter, on behalf of the defendant, argued that since Mr. Wallis had taken the house it was kept better than it had been at one time, but the Bench, he hoped, would judge this case upon broad principles as practical men. Now, it was well know that this was what was called a soldiers` house, and it is a truism that where soldiers congregate there will be, to some extent, a meeting of the unreclaimed Magdalenes of society, much as a landlord may dislike to serve this class, yet, by law, he is compelled to sell them a reasonable quantity of liquor, and they are entitled to stay in the house a reasonable time for the purpose of drinking the same. That the same persons were seen in the house at a quarter to ten and again at ten minutes to eleven is no proof that they had been there for upwards of one hour, and that they were encouraged in the soldiers` room. The landlord had given orders that his man shall strictly and religiously carry out his instructions in not allowing any of these persons to enter such room.

The defendant said his house was entirely supported by soldiers, and he endeavoured, so far as it will permit, to keep it respectable. He had given orders to the waiter to prevent any female entering the soldiers` room. The one mentioned as being near the room came in just in front of the police, and when he saw her he said “Now then, out you go out of that”. He had been in possession of the house for three months, during which time he could bring his neighbours to testify as to the improvement in point of respectability.

The Bench: We dismiss the case, but we hope you will endeavour to keep your house respectable.

The defendant desired to know how long the persons mentioned were entitled to remain in the house after calling for a glass of something to drink.

The Bench: A reasonable and ordinary time.

Folkestone Express 20-7-1878

County Court

Saturday, July 13th: Before G. Russell Esq.

D.W.P. Jones v Louisa Smith: Claim £6 10s. for 40½ dozen of ginger beer at 1s. per dozen and 40¾ dozen glass bottles at 2s. per dozen. Mr. Minter appeared for the defendant.

Plaintiff said the defendant formerly had a business in Folkestone, and he had supplied her with 700 dozen of ginger beer and lemonade during a period of about two years. Bottles lost were not charged for at the time, but it was usual to send in a claim for them when a party discontinued dealing with the manufacturer. Defendant had admitted to him that she owed bottles, but she did not think it was so many.

In reply to Mr. Minter plaintiff said it was not true that defendant called at his shop before leaving Folkestone and offered to pay for the ginger beer.

His Honour adjourned the case until next Court.

Folkestone Express 17-8-1878

County Court

Saturday, August 10th: Before G. Russell Esq.

D.P. Jones v Louisa Smith: Claim £6 10s. for ginger beer and unreturned bottles. This case was adjourned from last Court in order that plaintiff might produce his books giving an account of the bottles, the claim for which amounted to £4 1s. 6d.

Mr. Minter, for the defendant, contended that the plaintiff had not made out his claim for the bottles, and His Honour, taking the same view, gave a verdict for £2 8s. 6d. only.

Folkestone Express 16-8-1879

Monday, August 11th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Hoad, Captain Crowe, and M. Bell Esq.

James Noble, 17, was charged with being drunk and disorderly at the Folkestone Cutter on Sunday, and with refusing to quit when ordered by the landlord to do so.

He pleaded Guilty to both charges and was fined 5s. and 3s. 6d. costs in each case, or seven days` hard labour.

Folkestone Chronicle 23-8-1879

The Annual Licensing Session was held at the Town Hall on Wednesday, the magistrates on the Bench being Dr. Bateman (in the chair), Capt. Crowe, J. Jeffreason Esq., and Alds. Hoad and Caister.

The Cutter

The Superintendent opposed the renewal of license to this house, and it was adjourned in order that the necessary notice should be given.

Folkestone Express 23-8-1879

Wednesday, August 20th: Before W. Bateman Esq., Aldermen Caister and Hoad, Captain Crowe, M. Bell, W.J. Jeffreason, and J. Clark Esqs.

Annual Licensing Session

The whole of the old licenses were renewed, with the exception of the Folkestone Cutter, and in this case the Superintendent of Police said he should oppose it`s being granted, and it was therefore adjourned in order that the necessary notice might be served.

Folkestone Express 30-8-1879

Wednesday, August 27th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Caister, J. Clark and W.J. Jeffreason Esqs., General Cannon and Captain Carter.

Henry James Liddell was charged with being found drunk on licensed premises, the Folkestone Cutter, on the 14th inst.

Benjamin Barnes, a private in the Coldstream Guards, said about 8.30 on the 14th inst. he went into the Cutter and saw the landlord in the bar. He was drunk, and not capable of attending to his business. Witness remained two or three minutes. He asked for a glass of beer, and saw there was a prostitute serving behind the bar. He had nothing to drink, but went outside and sent in a policeman.

P.C. Bashford said his attention was called by last witness to the Folkestone Cutter. He went there and found the landlord (defendant) was drunk, supporting himself by leaning on the bar, and threatening to put someone out of the house. A prostitute was serving in the bar. There was a great disturbance being made by a man lately discharged from prison, who was quarrelling with others. He reported the occurrence to the Superintendent.

Sergeant Ovenden, who visited the house about 9.30 with the Superintendent, said the defendant was then behind the bar dozing, and to all appearance drunk. There were several prostitutes in the bar, and one of them was waiting on the customers.

Defendant did not deny having had too much to drink, but said he had held a license at Taunton for 15 years without any complaint.

The Bench inflicted a fine of 10s. and 11s. costs, or seven days` hard labour.

Southeastern Gazette 30-8-1879

Local News

At the Police Court on Wednesday, Henry James Liddell, the landlord of the Folkestone Cutter, was charged with being drunk on his own premises. He pleaded not guilty.

Benjamin Barnes, a private in the Coldstream Guards, said he went into the Cutter Inn, on the 14th inst., at about 8.30 in the evening, and saw the defendant sitting in the bar, drunk. Witness called the attention of a police-constable to him.

P.C. Bashford and Sergt. Ovenden having given corroborative evidence, the Bench fined the defendant 10s., costs 11s., or seven days.

Kentish Gazette 2-9-1879 

At the Police Court on Wednesday Henry James Liddell, the landlord of the Folkestone Cutter, was charged with being drunk on his own premises. He pleaded Not Guilty.

Benjamin Barnes, a private in the Coldstream Guards, said he went into the Cutter inn on the 14th inst., at about 8.30 in the evening, and saw the defendant sitting in the bar, drunk. Witness called the attention of a police constable to him.

P.C. Bashford and Sergt. Ovenden having given corroborative evidence the Bench fined the defendant 10s., costs 11s., or seven days` hard labour.

Folkestone Express 13-9-1879

Saturday, September 6th: Before The Mayor, General Cannon, Captain Carter, Aldermen Hoad and Caister, J. Clark and W.J. Jeffreason Esqs.

James Liddell was charged with being found drunk on licensed premises, the Folkestone Cutter.

He pleaded Guilty. A fortnight ago the defendant was fined for a similar offence.

There was a second charge against the defendant of keeping his house as a brothel, which the Magistrates, on the application of the police, altered to one of allowing his house to be used by prostitutes.

Defendant pleaded Guilty to this also, and Mr. Mowll addressed the Bench with a view to a mitigation of the penalties, urging that ever since defendant had held the license he had been subject to a series of misfortunes. He was now under notice from the brewers to quit the house next Thursday, under circumstances which would probably cause him considerable pecuniary loss. Previous to his coming to Folkestone he had held a license at Taunton for many years, and bore an excellent character.

Mr. Minter, who represented the owners of the house, drew the attention of the Bench to the fact that they had taken measures to get rid of the tenant as soon as they found there was a complaint against him.

For the first offence he was fined 20s. and 8s. costs, or 14 days, and for harbouring prostitutes 50s. and 8s. costs, or one month`s imprisonment.

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