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Sunday, 22 November 2015

Prince of Wales 1980s - 1990s



Folkestone Herald 26-3-1982

Local News

Landlady Lilian Hawkes has been given 14 days to quit her Folkestone pub. At a County Court hearing last Thursday the owners of the Prince of Wales in Guildhall Street, brewers Whitbread Fremlins Limited, were granted a possession order for the premises.

Mrs. Hawkes, agreeing the brewers were entitled to have thr order, did not contest the application. She told Judge Donald Sumner, presiding, that the brewery is willing to let her stay on at the pub until she has found a new home. The landlady has already approached Shepway District Council and has been told it will find her a place to live as soon as possible, she added.

Solicitor Mr. Christopher Bushnell, for Whitbread Fremlins, said the brewery will not take any steps which will cause hardship to the landlady.

Judge Sumner said “They have said they will do all they can to assist her and not enforce the claim unreasonably. I think they are being very fair and helpful”.

There were no claims for money or costs from the defendant.

A spokesman for Whitbread Fremlins said the eviction took place because the landlady wanted to be evicted. Mrs. Hawkes is a widow and due for retirement. The pub has been closed since Christmas, but no decision has been made yet on a new manager or tenant. The brewery will probably go through its usual process to get a new publican. This could take up to three months. But it depends on what the brewery decide to do, the spokesman added.

South Kent Gazette 5-5-1982

Local News

Days of pulling pints are over for Folkestone landlady, Mrs. Lilian Hawkes, who has retired from the Prince of Wales pub. She managed the Whitbread-owned pub in Guildhall Street for 31 years with her husband until he died four years ago.

Now Whitbread has decided to sell the Prince of Wales to a freeholder.

Whitbread officials, local licensees and members of the Licensed Victuallers` Association turned out to give Mrs. Hawkes – known to regulars as Jean – a good send-off during a reception at the Guildhall Hotel.


Photo from South Kent Gazette

Folkestone Herald 1-4-1983

Advertising Feature

The Prince of Wales is one of those “blink and you miss it” sort of pubs. Situated in the heart of a residential area on the comer of Guildhall Street and Coolinge Road, it never pretended to be anything other than a quiet local. But there have recently been some big changes. In fact it has both a new look and a new landlord. Three small bars have been knocked through into one and there are plans to build up a darts team and serve hot and cold food.

The new man in charge is 40-year-old Kevin Atkins, who says proudly that the pub has been packed every day since he re-opened on March 1. “We`ve still got a bit of work to do, but I think we are well on the way to achieving what I want – a good, friendly pub”.

A free house, it serves 14 different draught beers and lagers – one of the biggest selections in the area.

Before coming to Folkestone, Mr. Atkins was manager of the White Hart in Reigate and before that worked in the Middle East. He was originally a career soldier but after 18 years in the Army was given a medical discharge after being injured in an I.R.A. explosion in Londonderry.
 



Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 10-2-1984

Local News

His name was Atkins, late of the British Army, and the order rang down the years since demob – “Atkins! Get your `air cut!” Now remustered into civilian life as a landlord Kevin Atkins jumped to it, and half an hour later stood shorn as any rookie soldier recently subjected to the tender ministrations of a camp barber.

“It was a bit of a laugh, but there was a more serious purpose behind it”, said Kevin, landlord of the Prince of Wales pub in Folkestone`s Guildhall Street, as he brushed away the stray hairs from his collar. “We wanted to raise money for the Poppy Appeal in a way that would give the regulars a bit of a giggle. My hair was 18 inches long, and I suppose someone must have thought that was a bit unmilitary. I suppose I should have seen what was coming next. The idea was that customers should be able to have a go at my hair for five pence a snip. Now I should say that my hair varies in length between four inches and a quarter of an inch. Still, it was 24 years ago on Monday that I went into the Army, and I don`t think the camp barber did any worse”.

Kevin`s previous hairstyle – long tresses almost to the shoulder – had earned him the nickname “Buffalo Bill” among the regulars. As he stared wistfully at the growing golden pile he reflected with some pleasure that the whole exercise had raised £35 for the Poppy Appeal. AQ helmet which had found its way out of the possession of the Argentinian government was produced, and Kevin placed it on his head with not a hair out of place, simply because there was very little hair to be out of place. And as smart as the Atkins of 24 years ago, Kevin posed for the camera, head up, chest out and thumbs in line with the seam of the trousers.

Folkestone Herald 14-6-1985

Local News

A pub landlady had her arm slashed by a pint glass and her door smashed after telling Elizabeth Queen to get out of the pub.

Folkestone Magistrates heard Queen and a group of friendswere creating a disturbance in the Prince of Wales in Guildhall Street. Landlady Minaxi Atkins asked one of the group to leave and Queen got involved in a row with her, said Gareth Isaac, prosecuting. Queen had a pint glass in her hand, said Mr. Isaac. She threw it, cutting Mrs. Atkins, who needed hospital treatment. Outside the Folkestone pub she started to hit a glass door with her hands, eventually smashing it.

She pleaded Guilty to the offences of causing actual bodily harm and criminal damage, said Susan Watler, for Queen. But Queen, of Keyes Place, Folkestone, had drunk so much she could not remember assaulting Mrs. Atkins. “She has had problems with her drinking”, Mrs. Watler told the court. Queen had attended a special clinic in Canterbury to help with these problems, Mrs. Watler told the Magistrates. But Queen’s family problems meant she lost the incentive to stop drinking.

“You must realise drinking is no friend to you”, said presiding Magis­trate Mary Bean. “You seem to lose your temper.” Queen was given a year’s condi­tional discharge for each of the off­ences and ordered to pay compensa­tion of £20 to Mrs Atkins and £28 for the damage caused to the door.

Folkestone Herald 4-4-1986

Local News

Champion money raisers at the Prince of Wales pub in Guildhall Street, Folkestone, are celebrat­ing their success with an off-beat New Year’s party - on April 5.

“It all started with a bet, really”, said landlord Kevin’s wife Minaxi Atkins.

The pub, which has raised over £600 for the Royal British Legion outside their annual Poppy Appeal Week, stands to raise well over £100 from the oddball scheme. Christmas decorations have been left up since the end of 1985 and Christmas Eve will be celebrated on April 1. With cards from regulars and the full party spirit, a New Year’s party will be held on April 5 - all for a joint bet of £80 from beer suppliers Charringtons.

Folkestone Herald 2-5-1986

Local News

Patriotic pub customers marked St. George`s Day in fine style. Regulars at the Prince of Wales in Guildhall Street, Folkestone, joined landlord and landlady Kevin and Minaxi Atkins by dressing up to celebrate the country`s patron saint`s day. Costumes with an English theme were set off by red roses. As a result of the evening`s fun, a feature of which was country and western music by Keith Harwood, £40 was raised for the Royal British Legion`s Poppy Appeal. There was further fun at the Prince of Wales on the following evening, when the pub met a team from the British Sailors` Society, Dover, in a friendly game of pool.

Folkestone Herald 10-10-1986

Local News

Another royal port of call has been found for the ship’s badge from the last H.M.S. Folkestone. The Prince of Wales pub in Guild­hall Street succeeds the Prince Albert in Rendezvous Street as home for the solid brass plaque. It had been in danger of leaving the Shepway area - where it has been on public display for over 30 years.

Alan White, retiring landlord of the Albert where the badge has spent the last 22 years, wanted to sell it to a local buyer. But only on condition that it would be kept in the public eye when he and his wife Kay left Rendezvous Street. Otherwise it went with him into safe keeping. His S.O.S. in the Herald was ans­wered by a concerned regular, who wants to stay anonymous. He bought the badge for £250, and donated it to the Prince of Wales where he also enjoys a pint.

Landlord Kevin Atkins - “Yorkie” to his friends - has pledged to keep the maritime relic in Folke­stone. “I will carry on the same tradition as Alan”, he said at Thursday night’s presentation by Mayor Kelland Bowden. “The badge will stay in Folkestone when I move on”. Mr Bowden told the packed Prince Albert that he remembered the ship’s badge when it hung on the bar wall at the Ship in Sandgate over 30 years ago. He also had the pleasant task of presenting £100 to the Kent Blind ¡ation’s Dave Garrod collected by customers at the Albert.

Alan and Kay White retired after 22½ years behind the bar of the Rendezvous Street pub at the end of last week. What would they remember most from over two decades of serving drinks? “Our friends in Folkestone”, said Mr. White, “and that includes our fellow licensees”.


Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 14-11-1986

Local News

Customers at the Prince of Wales pub in Folkestone got together on Sunday to re­member those who fought in the First World War, commemorated by the presentation of £650 to the Poppy Day Appeal. The Mayor of Folkestone, Cllr. Kelland Bow­den, was presented with the cheque at the pub in Guildhall Street, by Mr. Kevin Atkins, landlord of the pub.

Folkestone Herald 2-12-1988

Local News

Kind-hearted regulars at The Prince of Wales pub, Folkestone raised over £1,000 for a Poppy Day appeal. The cash was raised during the year by filling a large whisky bottle with cash, and also by running sweepstakes.

By the last sweepstake £840 had been raised, and then landlady Mrs Minaxi Atkins won £200 in her own competition. Generous Minaxi decided to donate some of her winnings to the appeal to make the pub’s total £1,001. "Every year we raise more money, and this year we were going for the £1000 mark”, Mrs. Atkins said. “It looked as if we were going to fall short of our target until I won the sweepstake, so I gave the extra money to the appeal. It had to happen. The first time I win I have to hand over the cash”.

Folkestone Herald 24-11-1989

Local News

Regulars at the Prince of Wales pub in Folkestone raised more than £1,000 for charity this year. The money went to the Poppy Appeal, the Royal Marines School of Music Appeal Fund, Guide Dogs for The Blind, and the elderly in need.

Chelsea Pensioners Ron Heritage and David Redpath-George came from London to collect a cheque and meet Folkestone Mayor, Michael Luck.

The money was raised by collections, auctions and selling lottery tickets.


Folkestone Herald 19-4-1991

Local News

A man threw a part-filled charity bottle from a bar at a licensee after being asked to leave a Folkestone pub, a Court heard. Empty glasses and pump tops were also thrown.

Kevin Atkins, licensee of the Prince of Wales, in Guildhall Street, was left with four cuts on the side of his head needing 13 stitches after the incident last June, said Tracey Ayling, prosecuting at Maidstone Crown Court.

Stephen Paul Currie, 23, of Naseby Avenue, Folkestone, was jailed for a year, suspended for two months, after a jury convicted him of unlawful wounding. Currie, who denied the charge, was also ordered to pay £250 compensation and £220 prosecution costs.

Judge Keith Simpson told him “Mercifully Mr. Atkins didn`t suffer more serious injuries, particularly having regard to the area where the wounds were inflicted”.

Miss Ayling said Currie was in the pub with two women and a child. “There came a time when there was a slight argument between Mr. Atkins and the defendant, first about someone sitting on a pool table, and a drink spilt on the table. Mr. Atkins asked Mr. Currie to leave”. The woman and child went out first. Currie went up to the bar, behind which was Mr. Atkins, and asked people around for a cigarette. “Mr. Atkins again asked him to leave because his presence was not wanted – he had been a little aggressive – whereupon Mr. Currie started throwing things”. After his arrest Currie told police that he lost his temper after the licensee allegedly dragged the child off the pool table. There was an argument and he was asked to leave.

Mr. Atkins said in evidence that after asking Currie to leave the second time, he turned back to the optics. “The next thing, I got a smash on the head from a large collecting bottle we had for the poppy appeal”.

Cross-examined by Maureen Fleischmann, for Currie, Mr. Atkins said he did not touch the child or take her off the table. He also denied snatching Currie`s glass and hitting himself with it.

Currie did not give evidence at the trial.

Folkestone Herald 12-6-1992

Local News

Cigarettes and spirits, totalling £300, were stolen from the Prince of Wales pub in Guildhall Street, Folkestone.


Folkestone Herald 12-3-1998

Toby Jugs

Picture the scene .... December 31, 1999, The Prince of Wales pub in Guildhall Street, glasses raised as Big Ben strikes .... The bar TV shows the usual crowds swaying in unison in the crisp night air of Trafalgar Square – some risking a dip in the freezing fountains. But the main conversation in the Prince of Wales is still – love it or loathe it – is the Millennium Dome.

It is here to stay, though, and even my drinking pals who mock the idea can not, in their heart of hearts, imagine life without it. Of course Folkestone Royal Victoria Hospital needs more money, but will you be heading down there to dance in the aisles in the early hours of 2000, as you can at the Dome?

Not landlord Norman King, anyway. Crystal Palace in London was thought to be a white elephant when it was built a hundred years ago, he comments. “Everyone said that wouldn`t work, and it proved a success”.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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