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Sunday 22 November 2015

White Lion (2) 1980s - 1990s



South Kent Gazette 10-9-1980

Local News

Tempers frayed at a meeting of pub landlords. Two members stormed out at the end of the Licensed Victuallers- Association meeting at the Swan Inn, Sellindge, on Wednesday after­noon amid scenes described as “chaotic” and “farcical”.

Host Mr. Bill Corne, landlord of the Swan, told the Herald and Gazette “I had to shout at one member to shut him up. He was drunk when he arrived at the meet­ing. I threatened to cancel the meeting and sling them all out”.

And Mr. Chas Croft, landlord of the Gate Inn, Hythe, said “As the most junior person present, I was rather embarrassed to see my elders and betters behave in the way they did”. He said the two men wanted the LVA to do things which are impossi­bilities. “They were unfortunately very inebriated and shouting at the same time. The members didn’t discuss anything relevant and made a load of fools of themselves. It was a typical farce”.

After the meeting Mr Brian Adams, landlord of the White Lion in Cheriton, resigned from the L.V.A. committee for what he later de­scribed as “purely personal reasons which I don’t really want to dis­cuss”.

However, L.V.A. chairman Mr John Mees, of Botolph’s Bridge, Hythe, denied there had been a row

Several other landlords declined to comment and Mr John Barring­ton, landlord of the Castle Inn, Folkestone, who also is believed to have resigned from the L.V.A. after the meeting, was unavailable for comment.

South Kent Gazette 18-11-1981

Local News

A pub in Cheriton has been branded as “pretty scruffy” and advised not to open until the place is cleaned up. The White Lion pub, in Cheriton High Street, was inspected by a Shepway District Council health officer on Friday. The following day the pub was shut for business and a sign stating “Closed until further notice” had been placed in a front window. “It was a general inspection and the officer found the place pretty scruffy”, said Mr. John Button, Shepway`s Environmental Health Manager. It was suggested that until equipment and fittings could be thoroughly cleansed the pub should not open for business, Mr. Button added.

Pub landlord, Mr. Bryan Adams, is believed to be away on holiday at the moment and a relief publican is look­ing after the place.

In a letter to the occupier of the pub it was “intima­ted” that if the place was not cleaned legal action would be taken under the public health act, Mr Button said. It is basically food and hygiene facilities relating to the kitchen and bars which are causing concern. The health officer will visit the pub again today to see what progress has been made. He gave the pub two working days to clean up.

The Gazette was un­able to get hold of the relief landlord for comments be­fore going to press and on Monday a spokesman for Whitbread Fremlins Ltd said the company knew nothing about the matter.
 
Folkestone Herald 20-11-1981

Local News

A pub shut because it was a potential health hazard reopened on Wednesday after the landlord cut short his holiday in Spain. Mr. Bryan Adams returned to the White Lion, Cheriton High Street, after Shepway District Council health officials advised the relief publican to close last Friday until the premises were cleaned up.

A council spokesman told the Herald and Gazette that following discussions with Mr Adams on Wednesday morn­ing, no objections were raised to the pub reopening to cus­tomers. Officials recommended seve­ral improvements which could be made to the White Lion’s general basic cleanli­ness and will re-inspect the premises in about a fortnight.

Mr Adams said later there is nothing to worry about re­garding conditions at the pub. “My local customers will agree that I have always kept up high standards. The pub was not in a state, officials just raised a few points regarding part of the premises which were not being used. These things do happen and the relief landlord knew nothing about it. I was the only one who was able to sort this problem out. The are quite happy now”.

Mr. Adams flew back from Torremolinos on the first available flight after hearing about the situation, cutting short his holiday after only four days.
  
South Kent Gazette 3-2-1982

Local News

The landlord at the centre of a dirty kitchen row is almost certain to quit. But rumours that Brian Adams, of the White Lion, Cheriton, is being thrown out by the brewery, Whitbread Fremlin Ltd., were strongly denied on Monday. A spokesman said he understands Mr. Adams has asked to leave and has apparently got another business in Spain.

The pub was shut for a few days last November after being inspected by one of Shepway District Council`s health officers. The place was cleaned up and as far as the Council is concerned the incident is now closed. When the Herald and Gazette telephoned the pub on Monday, two men, who both refused to give their names, said Mr. Adams is away on holiday in Spain. They are running the pub while Mr. Adams is away. “It is doing marvellously well”, said one of the men.

Shepway`s Environmental Health manager, Mr. John Button, said his department was satisfied, after work carried out in November, that the premises were up to “a reasonable standard”.

When Mr. Adams moved into the pub in 1979 he said he was determined to get rid of its bad image and make it a really good entertainment centre.

Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 10-7-1987

Local News

Barry Chamberlain, popular guv`nor at Cheriton`s White Lion pub, did not need asking twice when invited to take part in a charity banger race at Coombe Valley Circuit, Dover. The White Lion has sponsored local driver Dermot Walsh for several years, and on Sunday Barry lined up with more than twenty other licensees from all over Kent and London, helping to raise over £2,000 for bone marrow research at Great Ormond Street Hospital.

“It was good fun”, said Barry on Monday. “I came nowhere, of course, but the place was crowded and everyone had a good day. I promise I`ll do better next year!”

The annual event was started in memory of Ian Saunders, a junior banger racing champion from Canterbury, who died of leukaemia at the age of 16.
 
Folkestone Herald 1-7-1988

Local News

Twenty-first birthday celebrations for Patrick Dunn ended in bloodshed when he was savagely attacked with a pool cue in a pub. Patrick, from Cheriton High Street, was playing pool with three men he met last Saturday night in the White Lion in Cheriton. He was suddenly set upon by one of the players and beaten repeatedly over the head with a cue. The trio then picked up their coats and walked out, leaving Mr. Dunn covered in blood on the pub floor.

A barmaid at the White Lion said “It all happened so quickly. We`d never seen the three men before and they ran out after the attack. The one who had been hit was very badly hurt”.

Patrick was drinking from a pint glass when he was attacked and this was smashed into his face by the cue. He was rushed to the William Harvey Hospital with serious head and facial injuries.

“It was a violent and unprovoked attack”, said Folkestone C.I.D. “He could have been killed. We`d like to hear from anyone who witnessed it”.

One of the men was described as about 35, 5ft 7ins and stockily built. He was unshaven and had short black hair. He was wearing a blue and white striped shirt. Another was 5ft 8ins of medium build. He had fair collar length hair and a white shirt with a collar.

Anyone with information should contact Detective Trevor Smith of Folkestone C.I.D.
 
Folkestone Herald 15-7-1988

Local News

Thirsty summer drinkers in Shepway will have to wait for all-day pub openings because of a Whitehall glitch. The Government has been forced to delay the controver­sial new licensing laws until September 1. This has been caused by a technical problem at the Home Of­fice which means present “last orders” for another two months. Then pubs will be able to serve alcohol from 11a.m. to 11p.m. all week. But not all Shepway landlords reckon it will be worth the bother.

Horace Brickell from the East Cliff Tavern said “It’s a great idea for some pubs, but for the ones in restricted areas, like us, it’s not much good.
 
Where we are placed, it won’t make any difference and it will be a waste of time staying open”.

 William Taylor, landlord of the Pullman Wine Bar and chairman of the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers Association, said "There is some confusion, but no-one is forced to stay open. They will be able to choose the hours that suit them.” Mr. Taylor said there were mix­ed feelings about the changes. “Pubs in busy areas are welcom­ing them but small, rural or out-of-the-way places are indifferent. Personally, I’m in favour. I think it will give flexibility to the licensee and the public. I don’t think it will cause more drunkenness because people only have a certain amount of money to spend each week. And I don’t mind the extra hours involved because we will get extra staff which will help the dole queue”.

Barry Chamberlain from the White Lion in Cheriton agrees. He said “I think it’s about time change was made. Pubs will become much more suitable for families, and will be more like restaurants. We will try to stay open all day. We are just about to redecorate the pub with the new freedom in mind”.

Michael Norris from the East Kent Arms told us “I’ve accepted that the new laws are coming, although I have mixed feelings about them. I think it’s a shame we are not being allowed to stay open later at night rather than all afternoon. Of course we will be making full use of the new hours and will try to serve food all day. It’s all right for us because we are so cen­trally placed”.

Eileen Lewis from The Guildhall in The Bayle summed up the feelings of most landlords when she said “If I’m making money, I’ll stay open”. She added “It’s all right for more central pubs, but I can’t see us staying open in winter. The brewery has asked us to give it a three-month trial period. Like other pubs, we’ll just have to feel our way when the change comes”.

Folkestone Herald 26-8-1988

Local News

Pubs in Folkestone, Hythe and Romney Marsh will continue with the time-honoured cry “Time, please” despite the big shake-up in pub hours this week.

Some will “test the beer” with all-day opening, but most land­lords contacted by the Herald felt there wasn’t the demand, and that they would be out-of-pocket if they had to pay staff to man empty bars.

Martin Foulkes, landlord of the Clarendon, Tontine Street, Fol­kestone, said “I run a night pub really. I do not have enough cus­tomers during the day to keep it open. It just would not make sense. On Fridays and Saturdays I might stay open in the afternoon; it depends on how many people we have in”.

At the Guildhall, The Bayle, Folkestone, landlady Eileen Lewis said “I am waiting to see how it goes. I might stay open on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, but only if we are busy”.

The White Lion, Cheriton, is going to be open all day, every day except Tuesdays and Sundays. “There are plenty of workers who finish their shifts in the afternoon who will come here for a drink”, said the landlord.

Kent’s biggest brewery, Shep­herd Neame, welcomed tie change. Chairman Robert Neame said “It is a victory for common sense. The new laws provide licen­sees with an opportunity to improve their trading”.

Folkestone Herald 17-3-1989

Advertising Feature

The old White Lion pub in Cheriton has opened with a new name and a new look. It is now called Banjo`s and puts much more prominence on food. There are regular bands and plenty of good beer.

Landlord Barry Chamberlain said “We have been closed for six weeks. Basically there`s been a complete change at the pub. There is a restaurant at the back of the pub now and one double-size bar”. He says he hopes to push the food more as an attraction. “We serve traditional English food and can boast a wide range on offer. It`s quality food at reasonable prices. Sunday night will be band night, when we will be having the best bands you can find in the area”, said Mr. Chamberlain.

The pub is open from 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. with the restaurant cooking good food practically all the time. Barry and wife Lyn always extend a warm welcome to their customers, and the White Lion has been a popular place for many years. Now under it`s new name it is set to stay just as successful – if not much better. So why not pop along to the end of Cheriton high Street if you fancy some decent food and drink?

Folkestone Herald 25-8-1994

Local News

Live music will go on being played at a pub despite complaints from neighbours. Four of them told Shepway District Council they were fed up with the noise from bands playing at the White Lion pub, Cheriton.

Licensing officers, who visited the inn several times, said noise was very loud inside the building and on nearby streets. But landlord Tony Leeves appealed for permission to keep live bands at the pub, saying it was historically known for such entertainment. Bands were vital for attracting customers, he added.

Entertainments licensing committee members asked how Mr. Leeves could reduce noise escaping from the pub. Shifting the performance stage, building a small entrance foyer and secondary glazing were among possibilities. Mr. Leeves explained. He had asked environmental health officers for help.

Peter Wells, Assistant Director of Health, recognised steps the landlord had taken to find out how he could improve things and said if he carried out alterations and closely monitored noise neighbours should not suffer unreasonable disturbance. The committee renewed the licence for six months instead of the usual year.

Folkestone Herald 29-12-1994

Local News

A youth who persistently committed offences while on bail has been given nine months in a young offenders` institution. Scott Keeler, 18, was finally kept in custody after he and an accomplice were trapped in a pub cellar they intended to steal from.

Keeler, of Wood Avenue, Folkestone, admitted theft, aggravated vehicle taking, burglary and driving without insurance. He asked for five other offences to be taken into consideration.

Maureen O`Connor, prosecuting, said a number of vehicles were broken into in Deal on March 14 and items were stolen. Property worth £300 was also stolen from a shed. Keeler was later arrested with two other youths and then granted bail. In June he took a car from Linden Crescent, Folkestone. Police followed at speeds up to 60 m.p.h., and eventually caught him in Green Lane, where he had crashed into a wall and written the car off. Again he was bailed and more offences were committed. On September 4 he and three others stole five bottles of alcohol from a supermarket. When interviewed, Keeler said “We just thought we would have a laugh and a couple of bottles”. When released on bail for the final time he and another youth broke into the White Lion pub at Cheriton. The landlord was woken by the burglar alarm and on seeing that the cellar hatch was open closed it and put beer kegs on top, trapping the thieves inside. They were tyhen arrested.

Johnathan Higgs, defending, said it must have been a surprise to Keeler when he was finally refused bail. He had been in custody for three months and no longer felt he was leading a clever way of life.

Noting that Keeler committed the offences to impress his friends, Judge Michael Nelligan said they were so serious that only a custodial sentence could be passed.

Folkestone Herald 2-2-1995

Local News

Plans to extend pub opening hours on Sundays have failed to cheer local landlords. “No thanks” was the reply from most Shepway publicans asked about the controversial move.

Prime Minister John Major wants to scrap the law that forces pubs to close between 3 and 7 p.m., leaving them free to open from noon until 10.30 p.m.

But many hard-working pub owners are already calling time on the idea, saying their extra time off on Sundays was “sacrosanct”.

Tony Leeves, owner of the White Lion, in Cheriton High Street, said “With most publicans Sunday afternoons are the only time they get to sit down and have a normal lunch, with an extra hour to relax. My Sunday afternoons are sacrosanct and I like being able to relax for an extra hour and enjoy my Sunday roast and Yorkshire pudding”. Mr. Leeves already works from 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. every day except Sundays, and he says he will probably not open for the extra hours. “If the business is to be had I`m all for going out and getting it, but people only have so much money to spend”, he added. “If you divide that amount by hours, it just means less money is spent per hour”.

Landlord James Hawkings said his regulars at The Happy Frenchman, in Christ Church Road, Folkestone, thought little of the proposal. “Most men come out for a drink at Sunday lunchtime, but have to get back to their wives for their lunch afterwards”. He intends to stay shut between 3 and 7 p.m. and does not believe trade will suffer as a result. Pubs benefitting from the longer hours would be those in the countryside selling meals, and those on the seafront, he said.

A Home Office official said the Government hoped to change the law by the end of the year. The proposals include letting off-licences sell alcohol from 10 a.m. to 10.30 p.m.. And supermarkets could do the same for six continuous hours on Sundays.

Folkestone Herald 16-2-1995

Local News

A pub landlord has promised to cut down the noise from his live music nights. Neighbours of the White Lion in Cheriton High Street complained last year about the noise coming from the building when bands played there. Shepway Council renewed landlord Tony Leeves` indoor entertainment licence for six months and have monitored the situation since. Now they have said he can go on holding the Thursday and Friday night events for another six months at least. But members of the licensing sub-committee said he must try to have a porch built in front of the pub – work Mr. Leeves said the owner of the building was prepared to undertake. But he added “I do feel this has been blown out of all proportion by one complainant whose complaint has not been justified”.

The main protestor is a woman living in Risborough Lane but Mr. Leeves said she exaggerated how badly the noise penetrated her home. “In her first letter she said she could hear the music above the sound of the TV, but I`ve spoken to several noise consultants and they say that`s impossible”.

Senior licensing officer, John McEwan, visited the woman in her home and said the music could be heard indoors with a window open, but not with the window shut. No meter readings of noise levels in the house were taken, and Mr. Leeves said he believed these were necessary if the complaint were to be justified. Since the last licence renewal he has secured windows so they cannot be opened on music nights and has carried out sound insulation of the stage area. But the licensing sub-committee was most concerned about noise escaping when customers opened doors on entering and leaving. This would be reduced if a porch was built. Police told the Council before the latest meeting it had received several complaints about noise from the White Lion, but later said this was an error on their part and there had actually been no such complaints.

The sub-committee said if more neighbours complained an officer would take readings of noise levels as evidence.

Folkestone Herald 17-10-1996

Local News

Some God-fearing folk have found a new venue in which to celebrate their faith. Last week the Herald reported that a branch of the Christian Community Church had started to meet every week – in a pub. And, on Sunday, more than 30 of the Church members met before opening time at the White Lion, Cheriton. However, the worshippers stress that although they are turning an ale house into a house of God, they have not swapped bread and wine for snacks and beer.

Ally Kay, 35, who runs the Church with his wife, Nicky, also 35, said “All Churches have a responsibility to reach out to the community. People who wouldn`t normally go to Church feel comfortable in a pub. We felt it was the right way to worship. It`s a nice pub and we are welcomed by the staff”.

Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 14-8-1997

Advertising Feature

All kinds of changes have been underway at the White Lion.

Landlady Ruth Smith has undertaken an extensive refurbishment to create the perfect setting for special occasions and a warm welcome whether you pop in for a drink, enjoy a meal or stay the night. There are four double bedrooms available. Ruth, who has owned the White Lion for the last three months, has worked in the trade for 40 years, owning or managing various pubs, night clubs and restaurants, including The Hotel Tresillian in Margate, Sam`s Nightclub in Portsmouth, and The Station Bar in Helensburgh, Scotland.

The White Lion was originally a hotel, and is remembered for a visit by King George V, who stayed there for a night on his way back to London after First World War victory.

Ruth Smith is known for producing cakes for special occasions, especially for the beautiful wedding cakes which are made to order. To complement this, the White Lion offers a function room for up to 100 people to cater for events such as parties, weddings and christenings. Bookings are already being taken for Christmas outings and parties.

The White Lion has a restaurant, seating up to 36 people, which features Sunday Lunch for just £3.95. Needless to say, you should book in advance, as it is extremely popular. On a livelier note, there is karaoke every Tuesday night, and happy hours every Tuesday evening between 6 and 8 p.m.

An extra feature is tucked away at the rear of the pub, where there is a very popular cafe with easy parking facilities. It serves a full English breakfast from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. at just £2.40, or a Jumbo Breakfast for £3. There is a full menu available, which is added to by daily specials.

Folkestone Herald 18-6-1998

Maidstone Crown court

A man who had gone along to a pub karaoke evening was kicked unconscious by wedding party thugs who had spilled out of a private function room into the bar.

Alastair Walker, prosecuting, told how, from being irritating, their behaviour developed into something far worse as everyone gathered outside at closing time waiting for lifts. It was then, he said, that John Newland, who had gone along for an evening out at the White Lion, Cheriton High Street, Folkestone, was asked by the groom “Did you call my missus a w****r?” “This was a question which was unfounded and designed to provoke trouble”, said Mr. Walker. A bottle was smashed over his head and he was surrounded by wedding party guests, who set about punching and kicking him. An attempt to make a break for it was thwarted when he was tripped up and again kicked as he fell to the ground.

Richard Norris, 20, of Joyes Road, Folkestone, Roy Jackson, 20, of Manorfield, Singleton, Ashford, and his brother, John Jackson, 23, of Cambridge Gardens, Folkestone all pleaded Not Guilty to malicious wounding on November 6, 1996, when they appeared at Maidstone Crown Court.

Mr. Walker said the attack only ended when someone called out that the police were coming, but, despite this, Roy Jackson, who had left with the others, returned to carry out what he called “an act of gratuitous violence”, jumping on Mr. Newland, who at that stage was down and almost out. He regained consciousness hours later after being taken to the William Harvey Hospital, where he had to have six stitches for a cut above his right eye, and was found to be badly bruised.

Mr. Newland told the Court that the attack had been completely unprovoked and how, after the bottle was smashed over his head, he was punched and kicked. He remembered being pushed against the pub wall, when his only recollection was of a flurry of boots and shoes kicking out at him.

Mr. Walker said it was the Crown`s claim that the three defendants were among those to surround and kick Mr. Newland, although conceded it was probably not one of them who smashed the bottle over his head.

The trial continues.

Folkestone Herald 25-6-1998

Maidstone Crown Court

Three thugs who attacked and beat a man in a pub where they were attending a wedding reception have been jailed.

John Newland was beaten senseless while attending a karaoke evening at the White Lion, in Cheriton high Street, in November, 1996.

A trial heard how Mr. Newland was surrounded by drunken guests from a wedding party being held on the premises. A bottle was smashed over his head, he was punched and kicked and when he tried to make a break for it he was tripped and again kicked as he fell to the ground. He woke up in hospital after being knocked unconscious.

Appearing at Maidstone Crown Court, John Jackson, 23, of Cambridge Gardens, Folkestone, admitted affray and assault causing actual bodily harm, and was jailed for a total of six months.

His younger brother, Roy Jackson, 20, of Manorfield, Singleton, Ashford, was sentenced to a total of 12 months in a young offender institution for malicious wounding and a public order offence.

Richard Norris, 20, of Joyes Road, Folkestone, was convicted of wounding Mr. Newland and was sent to a young offender institution for six months.

Mr. Newland told the Court the attack had been completely unprovoked. He remembered being pushed against the pub wall and then his only recollection was a flurry of boots and shoes kicking out at him. He needed six stitches to a cut over his right eye.

Alistair Walker, prosecuting, told the jury that the three defendants were among those to surround and kick Mr. Newland, although it was probably not one of them who smashed the bottle over his head.

Counsel for all three defendants, who had denied the offences, said they agreed that their behaviour had been unacceptable and inappropriate. All of them had undergone a complete change in lifestyle since the offence and all were now in stable relationships.

But Assistant Recorder Peter Wallis said the offences were so serious that only custody was appropriate.

Folkestone Herald 16-7-1998

Toby Jugs

Has anyone been to the White Lion, Cheriton, recently? Does it exist? The number in the Yellow Pages doesn`t work and it is not listed in directory inquiries. Instead Jugs got through to a middle-aged lady. “Is that the pub?”, Jugs asked. “Wish it was!”, came the reply. Please call us, landlord, wherever you are!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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