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Saturday, 6 September 2014

Mechanics Arms 1935 - 1939



Folkestone Express 26-1-1935
Local News

The Folkestone Magistrates had before them on Tuesday an application for a protection order to allow Mr. Moxom to sell intoxicating liquors at the Mechanics Arms until the next transfer sessions. Mr. Steward was the outgoing landlord. The application was granted.

Folkestone Herald 26-1-1935
Local News

The Folkestone Magistrates have granted a protection order this week in respect of licensed premises in the town.

On Tuesday a protection order was granted to Mr. J.W.G. Moxom in respect of the Mechanics Arms, St. John`s Street, the outgoing tenant being Mr. Steward.

Folkestone Express 16-2-1935

Annual Licensing Sessions

The annual Licensing Sessions was held on Wednesday at the Folkestone Town Hall, when the Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) reported that there had only been 15 convictions for drunkenness, the number being the same as the previous year. One licence, that of the Mechanics Arms, was referred to the adjourned licensing sessions, all the others being renewed. The licensing hours were extended for the whole of the summer time period by half an hour, from 10 p.m. to 10.30 p.m. on weekdays.

Mr. R.G. Wood presided, and a number of Magistrates were on the Bench.

Radnor Street Licensed Houses

Several of the clergy and ministers and representatives of various religions and temperance bodies were present in Court, evidently with a view to watching the proceedings concerning the licensed houses in the Radnor Street area. Mr. C.F. Nicholson, the Town Clerk, was also present.

The Chairman asked the Town Clerk if he had anything to say.

Mr. Nicholson said he really did not quite understand the position with regard to the licences in the Radnor Street area. Did they want him to explain what the Corporation`s proposals would be?

The Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes): These licences will be renewed today?

Mr. Nicholson: Certainly.

The Clerk: Nothing comes in force until next year?

Mr. Nicholson: The Corporation do not own any of the licences for the moment. I did not anticipate I should have to explain anything today.

The Chairman: We are asked to renew four licences in the area. We have no official information. It is a question whether they should be renewed or referred to the adjourned sessions. We know something by newspapers. We can defer the renewal and in the meantime think over what action we shall take.

Mr. Nicholson: The owners of these houses are not represented this morning. Is it proper for me to say anything about it?

The Chairman: Why are you here?

Mr. Nicholson: I did not ask to be here.

The Rev. Dr. Carlile: Is this an application now being made for the renewal of the four licences? If so, have the applications been made in order?

The Clerk, to Mr. Nicholson: Is there anything you have to officially mention? In the ordinary course there is an application for the renewal of all the licences, which does not affect what you are doing in the Radnor Street area.

Mr. Nicholson: I am not making any application this morning.

The Chairman: We would like to have some information of what is likely to happen.

Mr. Nicholson said as they were probably aware the Corporation had submitted to the Ministry of Health a compulsory purchase order. There were four licensed houses in the area. The Ministry declined to allow the Corporation to purchase three of the houses and they were struck out of the order. The remaining house, the Packet Boat, would be acquired by the Corporation as a going concern. It so happened that the Jubilee, the Ship, and the Oddfellows Arms, where they now stood, interfered with the proposed lay-out of the new houses, and on instructions he entered into negotiations with the owners. Two of them, the Jubilee and the Oddfellows Arms, agreed to re-erect, subject to the approval of the Magistrates, on alternative sites that would enable the Corporation`s lay-out scheme to be proceeded with. With regard to the Ship Inn, he had not yet received the decision of the owners as to whether they were prepared to pull down and re-erect a new house. The terms of the arrangements with the Jubilee and the Oddfellows were subject to applications which would be made to them in due course. There was to be an exchange of land in connection with them. There was to be no cost to the Corporation other than paying the tenant for the trade fixtures. With regard to the Ship Inn, he had not obtained information whether they were prepared to pull down. That house did not interfere with the scheme so much as the other two. It would be much better for the scheme if that house was pulled down and re-erected, but the Corporation could not insist upon it. The other owners had done all they could to assist in their scheme. The Packet Boat would be definitely acquired. Notice to treat had been served and a claim had been sent in. The Ministry confirmed the order which included that house.

Mr. E.H. Philcox, who stated he represented a number of residents in that area, said he would like to raise a question on the renewal of the houses.

The Clerk: I cannot see you have any locus standi.

Mr. Philcox asked if the matter for the removals would come up at the adjourned sessions. If so, he would be there to object. It seemed to him they would be able that day to only provisionally renew the licences for the time being, or mention that they would be referred on the ground of redundancy.

Dr. Carlile said a very considerable number of residents were interested in those four licences. If there was any consideration of the question of the renewal of the licences they definitely asked that their views might be considered in reference to redundancy.

The Chairman enquired what the police view was.

The Chief Constable said at the Magistrates` primary meeting he received instructions to go into the question of redundancy and ascertain whether it would be possible to differentiate between the houses. He did so and he found some considerable difficulty in saying because it was an established fact that there were not too many licensed houses for the summer trade in the area. All the houses did extremely well. Whether they were structurally adapted or not was open to enquiry. The houses less structurally fitted were doing a better trade. More customers were in those pokey houses than in the better houses. There was, he supposed, a psychological reason for it. He had had a system of paying monthly visits and it gave him a line on the trade. He had selected a certain number of houses and they had put them into three groups.

The Chief Constable then described the groups and gave details of the numbers of customers in them at certain times. The first group consisted of the Mechanics Arms, the Honest Lawyer, and the Harvey Hotel. The second group included the Harbour Hotel, the True Briton, the London and Paris Hotel, and the Princess Royal. The third group were the Alexandra Hotel, Royal George, South Foreland, the Wonder, the Pavilion Shades, the Chequers, the Wellington, the Royal Oak, and the Lifeboat.

The Magistrates retired to consider the matter and on their return the Chairman said they had decided to renew all the licences with the exception of the Mechanics Arms, which they renewed until the adjourned licensing sessions when it would be considered with regard to redundancy.

Dr. Carlile: Then no objection can be taken here and now, or in any other place, to the four licences involved in the scheme?

The Clerk: There will be applications for removals later and anyone can be heard at the time those applications are made. That is the position.

The Chairman: It will be better for the objections to be raised when the transfer comes along.

Dr. Carlile: It puts us at a very serious disadvantage. There will only be a question of renewal then.

The Chairman: It is a question of renewing them for one year now.

Dr. Carlile: It will be a question of the removal of licences that have already been granted.

The Chairman: That is the position.

Licences Transferred

The following licences were transferred: London and Paris Hotel, from Mrs. Venner to Mr. C. Garland; Mechanics Arms to Mr. Moxon.

Folkestone Herald 16-2-1935

Annual Licensing Sessions

Another year of sobriety was re­ported by the Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) to the Licensing Magistrates at the annual Licensing Sessions for the Borough, which were held at the Town Hall on Wednesday. All the licenses were renewed with the exception of that of the Mechanics’ Arms, which was referred to the ad­journed annual Sessions with a view to the question of redundancy being considered. During the Sessions reference was made to the four licensed houses in the Radnor Street area, a statement being made by the Town Clerk.

The Magistrates were Mr. R.G. Wood, Mr. A.E. Pepper, Mr. J.H. Blarney, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, Alder­man T.S. Franks, Alderman Mrs. E. Gore, Mr. P. Seager, Alderman W. Hollands and Alderman J.W. Stainer.

The Town Clerk (Mr. C. F. Nicholson) was present and it was suggested he should address the Magistrates. He said that he did not quite understand what they wanted him to tell them.

The Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes): What is the position of the licensed houses in the Radnor Street area?

The Town Clerk: You want me to explain what the effect of the Corporation’s proposals in regard to the Radnor Street area will be?

The Clerk: These licences won’t be renewed, will they?

The Town Clerk: Certainly. The Corporation don’t own any of the licences at the moment.

The Clerk: They may.

The Town Clerk: Only one. If the Bench want me to explain what the position is likely to be I shall be pleased to do so.

The Chairman said they were asked to renew four licences in the area. They had no official information as to what would happen to them. The ques­tion arose whether they should be re­newed that morning or put over to the adjourned Sessions.

The Town Clerk pointed out that the owners of the houses were not repre­sented that morning. Was it proper for him to say anything about it in their absence?

The Chairman: Why are you here?

The Town Clerk explained that he was asked to come.

The Clerk said he thought the Magistrates might like some information.

Dr. J.C. Carlile, who was present with other clergy and ministers, then asked if an application was now being made for the renewal of these licences in the Radnor Street area.

The Clerk (to the Town Clerk): Is there anything you have to mention this morning why the licences should not be renewed in the ordinary way?

The Town Clerk said it would not affect what the Corporation were doing in the Radnor Street area if the licences were renewed. He pointed out that he was making no application to the Magistrates that morning. As they were probably aware the Corporation had submitted to the Ministry of Health a Compulsory Purchase Order for the acquisition of most of the properties in the Radnor Street area. Included in the order were four licensed houses, the Jubilee Inn, the Oddfellows’ Inn, the Ship Inn and the Packet Boat Inn. When the Minister came to consider the order he declined to allow the Cor­poration to purchase three of those houses, the Jubilee, the Oddfellows’ and the Ship. They were struck out of the order on the ground of the expense which would be involved if the Corpora­tion had to acquire them. The remain­ing house, the Packet Boat Inn, would be acquired by the Corporation. It so happened that the position of the Jubilee Inn and the Oddfellows’ Inn as they stood at the present time inter­fered with the proposed lay-out of the new houses. On the instructions of the Corpora­tion he had entered into negotiations with the owners of the houses con­cerned and two of them, namely the Jubilee and the Oddfellows, had agreed, subject to the approval of the Magis­trates, to pull down and build new houses on alternative sites. That would enable the Corporation’s lay-out scheme to be proceeded with, but with regard to the other house, the Ship Inn, he had not yet received the decision of the owners of that house as to whether they were prepared to pull down and erect a new house on a new site. These terms of the arrangements with the owners of the Jubilee and Odd­fellows’ were subject to an application which would be made to the Magis­trates in due course. The owners of the houses were conveying to the Cor­poration the sites of their existing houses in exchange for sites on which they would build new houses. There was to be no cost to the Corporation other than certain compensation to the tenant. In spite of the fact that the houses were struck out of the order, the way in which the owners had met the Cor­poration would enable the lay-out scheme to be proceeded with as they desired.

The Chairman: That’s for two of the houses?

The Town Clerk replied that that was so. With regard to the Ship Inn, as he had stated, he had not yet ob­tained the decision of the owners of the house. If they decided to stay where they were, their house would not interfere with the scheme so much as the other two had done. It would mean that their house would abut in front of a line of cottages which were going to be built there.

The Chairman: It won’t seriously in­terfere with you?

The Town Clerk: No, but it would be much better if they would. We cannot insist on them doing so. The other owners have done all they can to meet the wishes of the Corporation. Continuing, the Town Clerk said the fourth house was the Packet Boat Inn which was to be acquired by the Corporation.

Dr. Carlile: Is it?

The Clerk: Don’t interrupt, please.

Continuing, the Town Clerk said notice to treat had been served and a claim had been sent in. That house was being acquired because the site was definitely required in connection with the lay-out scheme, and the Ministry had confirmed an order which included that house but excluded the other three.

Mr. E.H. Philcox, a solicitor, then rose and asked permission to speak. He stated that he represented a number of residents in the area: He wanted to address the Bench on the question of the renewal of these licences.

The Clerk said he could not see any locus standi.

Mr. Philcox said when the matter did come before them again in connection with the removals of these houses he would be there to object on behalf of a number of residents. It did seem to him, however, that it would be more satisfactory if they only provisionally renewed those licences that day.  Amongst the points he would make would be one on the grounds of redundancy.

Dr. Carlile said if the Magistrates were going to discuss this matter he wished to point out that a considerable number of residents were interested in these four houses and if there was any consideration of the question of the renewal of these licences then they asked that their views might be con­sidered in reference to the question of redundancy. If the Magistrates were going to refer them back no further word need be said now on the subject.

The Chief Constable said he received the Magistrates’ instructions at their preliminary meeting in regard to the question of redundancy. He had found some considerable difficulty in deciding. It was an established fact that there were not too many licences in the borough for the summer trade, for all houses did extremely well during the period, whether structurally adapted for the purpose or not. One found that houses the least structurally fitted were doing a better trade. They found more customers in these pokey houses. He supposed there was a psychological reason for it. He had had a system since he had been there of monthly visits and those visits gave him a line on what trade the houses were doing. He had selected a number of houses and grouped them into three groups.

The first group included the Mechanics Arms, the Honest Lawyer, and the Harvey Hotel. He had taken comparative figures for the year and these figures showed that the Honest Lawyer had an average of 19 custo­mers on every occasion they were visited; the Harvey Hotel 16, and the Mechanics Arms six. They made a special series of visits between January 17th and February 3rd and they found that the Mechanics Arms had an average of five; the Harvey 10; and the Honest Lawyer 17. They would see from those figures that the figures were pretty well the same for the whole year. It would appear superficially that of these three the Mechanics Arms was the one to go.

He had another group made. It con­sisted of the Harbour Hotel, the True Briton, the London and Paris and the Princess Royal. The figures for the year showed an average of 28.5 for the Harbour Hotel; 17.5 for the True Briton; 46.5 for the London and Paris; and 7 for the Princess Royal. The licensee of the Princess Royal had been there for 25 years and in spite of the figure he had mentioned they seemed to be making a living somehow or other.

The Chief Constable mentioned a third group which included the Alex­andra, the Royal George' the South Foreland, the Wonder, the Pavilion Shades, the Chequers, the Wellington, the Royal Oak and the Lifeboat. The two which were doing the least trade, judged by' his figures, were the' Wonder with an average of 12 and the Lifeboat with an average of 14. The others were not doing very much better. It. was difficult to differentiate in that group. He was prepared to take directions from the Magistrates, but he was not prepared to give any.

The Magistrates then retired.

The Chairman stated on their return that with reference to Dr. Carlile’s question, the Bench had decided that later on he (the Chairman) should renew all the licences with the exception of the Mechanics Arms, the licence of which the Magistrates had decided not to renew that morning but refer to the adjourned Sessions to have evidence of redundancy or otherwise.

Dr. Carlile: That means ho objection can be taken here and now or at any other place to the four licences in­volved in the Radnor Street scheme?

The Chairman: I think now is the time for you to raise any objection.

The Clerk pointed out that there would be applications for the removals of these licences later on and then anyone could be heard.

The Chairman: That will be the better time, then.

Dr. Carlile said it put them at a very serious disadvantage because the licences would be granted again and there would only be the question of removal. It meant that when it came to the question of removal of the licences, it would be the removal of a licence which was already in being.

The Chairman: I am afraid that that is the position.

The Chairman then announced the renewal of all licences with the excep­tion of the Mechanics Arms, which he stated would be deferred until the adjourned sessions.

The Magistrates approved of the transfer of the London and Paris Hotel from Mrs. Venner to Mr. Claude Garland; the transfer of the licence of the Mechanics Arms to Mr. Moxon.

Folkestone Express 16-3-1935

Adjourned Licensing Sessions

On Wednesday at the adjourned licensing sessions the Magistrates considered the question of renewing the licence of the Mechanics Arms, St. John`s Street, which had been referred for consideration by them in respect to the matter of redundancy at the annual licensing sessions.

The Magistrates on the Bench were Mr. R.G. Wood, Mr. A.E. Pepper, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, Alderman T.S. Franks, Alderman Mrs. E. Gore, Eng. Rear Admiral L.J. Stephens, Alderman W. Hollands, and Alderman J.W. Stainer.

Mr. B.H. Bonniface represented the owners of the house, Messrs. A. Gardener and Co., and Mr. J.W.G. Moxham, the licensee.

Chief Inspector Pittock said the Mechanics Arms was a fully licensed house in St. John`s Street. It had one public bar, which was 11ft. by 14ft. 11in., a private bar 5ft. 6in. by 7ft. 6in., and a bottle and jug department 4ft 6in. by 6ft. The bar counter was 2ft. 2in. wide and ran the whole length of the bars, being semi-circular in the public bar. The space behind the bars was 12ft. by 5ft 6in. deep. There was a bar parlour, which was approached by two steps, and it was 11ft. by 10ft. 6in., and there were no means of egress or entrance from the public street. From the bar parlour there was a passage leading to a club room. There were 17 steps down to the room, which was on the slope. That was at the rear of the building. It was 28 ft. by 16ft. 6in. There was a public passage by the side, and there was an entrance to the club room there, and eight steps led down in it. Inside the club room there was a serving hatch in a door at the rear of the bar, and the refreshments would have to be taken down eight steps. There was a kitchen in the basement and a small scullery adjoining. The rent of the premises was £30 a year, and the rateable value was £32. He had been in the Force for 26 years, and from his experience the trade of the house had decreased enormously, and during the past year the trade had dropped down considerably. From 1900 the licence had been transferred four times, in 1920, 1926, 1934, and 1935. From April to December 18th visits were made to each house in the area, and the average number of persons found on each occasion were: Mechanics Arms, 6; Honest Lawyer, 19; and Harvey Hotel, 16. From January 17th to February 3rd, 12 visits were paid, the average number of persons being: Honest Lawyer, 17; Mechanics Arms, 5; and Harvey Hotel, 10. From February 14th to March 5th, 14 visits were made to the following houses, the average being: Mechanics Arms, 7; Harvey Hotel, 9; Star and Garter, 10; and Richmond Tavern, 12. The Honest Lawyer was within 100 yards of the Mechanics Arms; the Harvey Hotel and two off-licences, the Bradstone and Mitre, were within 200 yards; and the Star and Garter and Richmond Tavern were within 300 yards. That was excluding entirely territory north of the railway. In his opinion there were sufficient houses to meet the requirements of the neighbourhood if the Mechanics Arms was found redundant.

The Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes): What is the reason for suggesting the Mechanics Arms is redundant?

Chief Inspector Pittock: It is due to the fact that very little trade seemed to be done over a long period.

There is no objection to the tenant? – No.

Mr. Bonniface: This house is really put up on the suggestion of the Licensing Bench?

Chief Inspector Pittock: Yes.

Mr. Bonniface said the position was that the Chief Constable, in his report to the Bench at the Licensing Sessions, said there were not too many facilities for drinking in the summer months. Taking between the railway line and the Dover Road there were only two on licensed premises, the Mechanics Arms and the Honest Lawyer. One of those was a beerhouse and the other fully licensed premises. To get to the nearest fully licensed premises one had to cross Dover Road to the Harvey Hotel.

Cross-examined by Mr. Bonniface, Chief Inspector Pittock agreed that since the new tenant had taken over in the last few weeks there had been improved trade. He could hardly say whether it had increased more than double. Since December the British Legion had made the Mechanics Arms their headquarters, and he agreed the premises were actually very convenient considering the way they were built. There was no objection to the structure of the house. The club room had been done up from top to bottom.

Mr. Bonniface said that from 1900 to 1934 there were only two tenants. When Mr. Stuart took over, he continued there for six months, but had to give up owing to the health of his son. The present tenant had the whole of his capital in the business.

The Chairman: If the new tenant came only just over a month ago, was he a local man?

Chief Inspector Pittock: No, but he had been living here for some time.

The Chairman remarked that trade did usually buck up for a period when a new tenant came in.

Evidence was given by Mr. C.K. Lister, Managing Director of Messrs. Gardener, the owners of the premises, that they purchased it in 1913, when Mr. Johnny Lawrence was the tenant. The trade went down in 1920 until the tenant, Mr. Grant, left in 1934. Mr. Stuart left after six months owing to his son`s health forcing him to leave Folkestone. The present tenant took it over at the transfer sessions. His trade had gone up very considerably, and speaking for the beer trade, it was nearly doubled. The present tenant was a very satisfactory man and had the whole of his savings in the business. Witness read out the number of barrels of beer supplied each year for the last ten years: 1925, 280; 1926, 259; 1927, 260; 1928, 235; 1929, 234; 1930, 214; 1931, 183; 1932, 100; 1933, 96; 1934, 84.

Mr. Joseph William George Moxham, the tenant, said he took over the premises on a protection order on January 22nd, and a full transfer was granted at the annual general licensing sessions. During that time he had sold 13½ barrels of beer, had sold 96 bottles of beer (half pints), 14 bottles of spirit, and six bottles of wine. He was the only licensed house on that side of the railway line in that particular area. The British legion used the club room all the week. He was positive trade was improving considerably. The British Legion has a separate and good entrance for their office work.

Mr. Bonniface said that a petition was got up by persons in the neighbourhood protesting against the proposal to withdraw the licence.

Mr. Albert E. Palmer, railway porter, 25, Mount Pleasant Road, produced the petition signed by 87 inhabitants and customers who used the house. The petition was started by a relative of witness who lived opposite and who was unable through indisposition to bring it to the Court. Witness said there was more letting done in the neighbourhood of St. John`s Street in comparison with the whole of the town. He had used the house for 20 years and he had never found a landlord the same as the present one in trying to encourage trade. The house looked better, and there was better attention to the trade, which had improved enormously. At weekends they could not get inside the house.

Mr. Bonniface said he suggested they should consider what the Chief Constable himself said at the annual licensing sessions that there were not too many licences in the town during the summer season and that all licensees were doing badly during the winter season. They had, continued Mr. Bonniface, considered that district had been combed during preceding years and they had taken away from the district itself two of the four licences and they had left two only. There could be no doubt that when they got a district bounded as it was by the Dover Road, that was in itself a natural boundary for the people on the other side. When they had 87 inhabitants in the district saying they required that place, the only fully licensed house there was, the only house at which they could get spirits as well as beer, he suggested they should not refer it to the licensing authority to close the place, otherwise they would have to obtain their supplies of whisky, etc., at the Harvey Hotel, which had to be reached by crossing the dangerous Dover Road. They ought not to impose on the inhabitants of that district that hardship or inconvenience.

The Magistrates decided to renew the licence.

Folkestone Herald 16-3-1935

Adjourned Licensing Sessions

The Folkestone Licensing Magistrates on Wednesday, at the ad­journed annual Licensing Sessions, re­newed the licence of the Mechanics’ Arms, St. John’s Street, which had been referred by the Justices at the annual sessions with a view to considering whether it was redundant. Mr. B. H. Bonniface, of Messrs. G. W. Haines, Folkestone, appeared for the licensee and brewers.

The application was heard by Mr. R.G. Wood, Mr. J.H. Blarney, Dr. W. Nuttall, Alderman T.S. Franks, Engineer Rear-Admiral L.J. Stephens, Alderman Mrs. E. Gore, Alderman J.W. Stainer and Alderman W. Hollands.

Chief Inspector H.G. Pittock said the Mechanics’ Arms was situated in St. John’s Street. It was a fully licensed house. The frontage in St. John’s Street was 19ft. 6ins. with a side front­age of 68ft. Witness gave evidence of the accom­modation of the house. He stated that downstairs was a club-room, which was at the rear of the building. It was almost an annexe. The rent of the premises was £30 a year and the rateable value £32. He had known the house during 26 years, and during the past 10 or 12 years the trade had decreased enormously. Dur­ing the past year the trade had dropped down very much indeed. The licence had been transferred in 1900, 1920, 1926, 1934, and 1935 (at the last annual Licensing Sessions). He put in a copy of visits made to the Mechanics’ Arms, the Honest Lawyer, and the Harvey Hotel, from April to December last. Eighteen visits were made to each house and the average number of custo­mers found in each house was: Mechanics’ Arms six, Honest Lawyer 19, and the Harvey Hotel 16. From January 17th to February 12th 12 visits were made and the average number of customers on those occa­sions was: Honest Lawyer 17, Mechanics’ Arms 5, Harvey Hotel 10. The Honest Lawyer was a beer house, on and off.
From February 14th to March 15th he made 14 visits to the Mechanics’ Arms, the Honest Lawyer, the Harvey Hotel, the Star and Garter and the Richmond Tavern. The average num­ber of customers was: Honest Lawyer 16, Mechanics’ Arms 7, Harvev Hotel 9, Star and Garter 10, and the Rich­mond Tavern 12. The Honest Lawyer was within 100 yards of the Mechanics’ Arms; the Harvey Hotel, the Bradstone Tavern, and the Mitre, beer houses, were within 200 yards: and the Star and Garter and the Richmond Tavern within 300 yards.In his opinion there were sufficient houses to supply that particular neigh­bourhood if the Mechanics’ Arms was redundant.

The Clerk (Mr. C. Rootes): What is J {be reason for suggesting the Mechanics’ Arms is redundant? - Because so little trade is done there.

Mr. Bonniface: This house is really put up as redundant at the suggestion of the Licensing Bench, isn’t it? - Yes.

You were present at the annual Licensing Sessions when the Chief Con­stable staged that there were not too many facilities for drinking in the sum­mer months?

Inspector Pittock said he was, but he understood that the Chief Constable was referring more particularly to the the number of houses at the lower end of the town.

Mr. Bonniface: Between the railway line and Dover Road there are only two licensed premises? - Yes.

And one is a beer house and the other (the Mechanics’ Arms) a fully licensed house? - Yes.

In order to get to other premises one has to cross Dover Road? - Yes.

Mr. Bonniface: Do you agree that since the new tenant took over six weeks ago the trade of the house has increased? - Yes. I found more custo­mers there and the tenant showed me figures.

Will you agree the trade has doubled? - I cannot say that.

The Clerk: Since the new tenant has come in the trade has increased? - Yes, definitely.

Mr. Bonniface: Do you know that since December the British Legion has made this house their headquarters? -  Yes.

The Premises were very convenient Premises? - Yes, except for some diffi­culty in getting about downstairs.

And the premises have recently been done up from top to bottom and are in excellent condition? - Yes.

Would vou agree with me that from 1900 to 1920 there was only one tenant, Mr. Jobn Lawrence? - Yes.

Do you know that the present tenant has put the whole of his capital into the business? - I don’t know that.

The Chairman: Is the new tenant a local man? - No. but he has been living here some time.

The Chief Constable (to Inspector Pittock): What does one find usually when a new tenant comes in? – Trade generally picks up for a while.

Mr. Bonniface then called witnesses to support the renewal of the licence.

Walter Lester, managing director of Gardeners’ Brewery, Ash, the owners of the premises since 1913, said trade went down from 1926 until Mr. Grant (a former licensee) left in 1934. Mr. Stew­art then took over, but he had to leave because of his son’s health.
Since the present tenant had taken Possession trade had gone up very considerably; it had been nearly doubled. He was speaking of the beer trade; they did not supply the spirits. A considerable amount of money was spent on doing up the premises before the licensing sessions. The present tenant was a very satis­factory man and all his savings were in the business.

Cross-examined, witness said in 1925 the house did 280 barrels of beer; 1926, 259; 1927, 260; 1928, 235; 1929, 234; 1930, 214; 1931, 183; 1932, 100; 1933, 96; and 1934, 85. During the last six weeks 11½ barrels had been delivered as compared with 6½ for the corresponding period of last year.

Joseoh William G. Moxon, the licensee, said he took over the premises on January 22nd, when be was granted a Protection Order. He had taken delivery of 13½ barrels in six weeks, excluding bottled beers. In addition he had sold spirits and wines. The British Legion used the clubroom all the week. He had all his capital in the business, and he was positive the trade of the house was improving. He had nothing to do with a petition which naa been prepared.

Albert Edward Palmer, of 25, Mount Pleasant Road, handed in a petition signed by 89 persons.
The petitioners, describing themselves as residents of St. John’s Street, pro­tested against the proposed withdrawal of the licence. They added that the house was quietly and well conducted.
Mr. Palmei said the licensee had nothing to do with the petition. There was a lot of letting done in the neigh­bourhood of St. John’s Street. He had used the house for over 20 years and he had never found a better licensee than Mr. Moxon. Customers got better attention, and trade had im­proved enormously.

Mr. Palmer caused some laughter when he said he would like to ask Inspector Pittock a question. He (In­spector Pittock) had given evidence of visits he had made and the number of customers. On a recent Saturday even­ing the house was so full that everybodv could not get in.

The Clerk referred to a statement of visits prepared by Inspector Pittock showing that on a recent Saturday night, the number of customers was 21.

Mr. Bonniface, addressing the Magis­trates, said in previous years they had taken away two of the four licensed houses in that district and there were only two left. When they had some 78 of the inhabitants saying that they re­quired the house he suggested they should not refer the house, when their nearest supply would be the Harvey Hotel, on the other side of Dover Road. It was not suggested that there they had a congested area

The Magistrates retired. On their return the Chairman said: After hearing the evidence with reference to the new tenant and so forth the Licensing Justices have decided to renew the licence.  

Folkestone Express 10-6-1939

Local News

The Folkestone Justices on Friday granted a protection order in respect to the transfer of the licence of the Mechanics Arms in St. John`s Street, from the present tenant, Mr. Moxon, to Mr. James Roberts.
    
           
 
 
 
 
 

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