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Saturday, 23 August 2014

East Kent Arms 1930s



Folkestone Express 11-10-1930

Local News

On Wednesday morning, at about 8.25, an outbreak of fire occurred at the East Kent Arms, 21, Sandgate Road, of which Mr. Percy F. Booker is the licensee. It was ascertained that the fire was under the floor of the hall, and the Folkestone Fire Brigade were summoned, but the outbreak had been extinguished before they arrived.

The cause of the fire was the fusing of an electric wire, and the damage was estimated at only a few pounds.

Folkestone Express 17-10-1931

Tuesday, October 13th: Before The Mayor, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, and Mr. W. Smith.

Anthony E. Bowles, of Dover, was charged with being drunk and incapable of taking care of himself in Sandgate Road on Saturday. Defendant pleaded Guilty.

P.C. Dickenson said about 12.25 p.m. on Saturday he saw the defendant in Guildhall Street. He was standing by the side of a car when the defendant came up to him and said “I am not going to steal that car”. Defendant was under the influence of drink. He entered the Queen`s Hotel Vaults and witness stopped him from being served, and he then went to the East Kent Arms. Witness stopped him from being served there. Defendant then went and leaned against a car. He then took him into custody and charged him with being drunk and incapable of taking care of himself.

Defendant said he regretted the thing had occurred. He did not remember much about it.

Chief Inspector Pittock said the defendant was a very respectable man and nothing was known against him.

The Bench imposed a fine of 10s.

Folkestone Express 17-9-1932

Saturday, September 10th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood and Mr. W.R. Boughton.

Frank Justus Youngs, a waiter, was charged with being drunk on licensed premises. Defendant said he pleaded Guilty to a certain extent.

P.C. Fry said at 12.55 p.m. on Friday he was on duty in Sandgate Road, when he was called to the East Kent Arms by the proprietor, Mr. Booker. There he saw the defendant in the saloon bar, and Mr. Booker said he wished to have the man removed from his premises. Witness was of the opinion that the man was drunk. With the assistance of Mr. Booker he got the man outside, where he then became violent, and it became necessary to remove him to the police station. When he was charged with being drunk on licensed premises, defendant replied “Yes, I am”.

P.F. Fox said at 1.15 p.m. he was on station duty when defendant was brought in. He concluded Youngs was drunk, because he was very violent and was swaying about. He refused to give his name and address, and when he was charged he replied “Yes, I am”. Three officers had to hold him while he was being searched.

Mr. P.F. Booker, licensee of the East Kent Arms Hotel, Sandgate Road, said at noon on Friday he was making his usual visit to the bar when he saw the defendant, who was all right then. When witness returned half an hour later he went to the same bar and saw that defendant had vomited all over the counter. Seeing that he was drunk, witness requested that he should leave, and he followed him out into the yard, where he told him the best thing he could do was to go back to the hotel. Defendant then came back and asked for lunch, and witness again told him to leave, but he refused, so witness went for the assistance of P.C. Fry, who helped him to remove the defendant. In consequence of defendant`s behaviour all of his customers left.

Defendant said he was not so drunk as they had said, for it was early in the morning, and he had only had six beers. He was also suffering from slight gastric trouble, and he came over queer in the bar and he had had nothing to eat. He came back to ask for something to eat, and he was told to leave. If he had been asked politely he would not have made a fuss. He also did not think he was so violent as they had made out, for he was not naturally a violent man.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said the defendant was a waiter in one of the west-end hotels. He had been employed in hotels since he was eighteen, and he had never been before the Court for being drunk previously. He had experienced a good deal of trouble lately, losing his wife three weeks ago, she dying under an anaesthetic, which might have accounted for the defendant`s loss of balance.

Alderman R.G. Wood said the case had clearly been proved against the defendant that he had given a lot of trouble to the police constable and the proprietor, but as they had heard that he had had trouble himself they would not fine him the full amount, but only 5s. They were very sorry to see him there as he had never been in Court before. If the defendant would allow him to give him advice, he would say that he should take drink in moderation or not at all.

Youngs said that would be a lesson to him.

Folkestone Herald 17-9-1932

Local News

When Frank Justus Youngs, a waiter, was charged at Folkestone Police Court on Saturday last with being drunk on licensed premises on the previous day, it was stated that three policemen had to hold him while he was being charged at the police station. Youngs pleaded Guilty.

The Magistrates were Alderman R.G. Wood and Mr. W.R. Boughton.

P.C. Fry said that at 12.55 p.m. on the previous day he was on duty in Sandgate Road, in uniform, when he was called to the East Kent Arms hotel by Mr. Booker. In the saloon bar he saw defendant, and Mr. Booker said “I wish you to remove this man from my premises”. Defendant was, in witness`s opinion, drunk, and with Mr. Booker`s assistance he got him outside. Outside, defendant became violent, and it became necessary for Mr. Booker to assist removing him to the police station, where he was charged.

P. Sergt. Fox said at 1.05 p.m. on the previous day he was station officer when P.C. Fry brought defendant there, and preferred a charge of being drunk on licensed premises against him. Defendant was drunk and very violent. He kept swaying about, and there was difficulty in obtaining his name and address. After he had been charged, he replied “Yes, I am”. It took three officers to hold him because he was so violent.

Percy Frederick Miles Booker, licensee of the East Kent Arms, Sandgate Road, said at 12 noon on the previous day he made the usual round of the bars, and saw defendant, who then seemed all right. Half an hour later witness was called to the same bar and saw defendant, who had vomited over the counter. Witness thought he was drunk and requested him to leave, and defendant went out. He later came back and requested some lunch, but witness refused to serve him and told him to leave. He refused to go, and as a result of his behaviour other customers were leaving. Witness then called P.C. Fry, and together they got defendant out.

Youngs told the Bench he was not so drunk as had been stated, because it was so early in the morning, and he had had, at the most, six beers. He had had nothing to eat, and he became queer with gastric trouble, and tried to get out of the bar. He came back, and said he had better have something to eat, but Mr. Booker told him to get out. If Mr. Booker had asked him politely to leave, there would not have been all that trouble.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said that Youngs was a waiter at an hotel in the West-end of town, and had been employed in various parts of the country as a waiter during the past 12 years since he left school. On the previous night, the Chief Constable said, he was told defendant had had some trouble recently, which might have accounted for his loss of balance. Defendant lost his wife only three weeks before, when she died under an anaesthetic.

The Chairman said it was quite clear that what defendant was charged with had been proved, and he thought he gave the landlord and the police considerable trouble. If it had not been for what the Chief Constable had just said, they would have fined him the maximum amount of 10s., but now they would make the fine 5s.

“If beer had that effect on me I would leave it alone”, advised the Chairman. “I should either drink it in strict moderation or not touch it at all”.

Folkestone Herald 7-1-1933

Felix

A golden wedding, in which a considerable amount of interest is interwoven, took place at 19, Foord Road on Christmas Day. The happy pair are Mr. Thomas Burch Pilcher, son of the late Mr. Thomas Pilcher, job master of Margate, and Miss Elizabeth Sarah Mann, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Mann, of New Romney. The marriage was solemnised at Christ Church by the Rev. E. Duke.

As is often my habit, I was walking quietly along the King`s highway the other day accompanied by my briar and stick when I met an old friend.

“Tom”, I remarked, “a little bird has whispered to me that you celebrated your Golden Wedding on Christmas Day”. At this he smiled pleasantly, indicating at the same time that I was correct in my surmise. I followed this up by suggesting that Tom could tell me a thing or two about his career. I even went so far as to suggest that I should interview him at his home. Our hero again smiled and rather pooh-poohed the idea of being brought into the limelight. However, after a little talk I got my way. To come to the point, I subsequently found myself in Tom`s cost little home at 19, Foord Road.

A feeling of delight seized me when I tapped at the door of Tom`s cottage, my summons being answered by a lady, whose eyes, rather like Milton`s, were “rolling in vain to catch the light of day”. Subsequently I discovered, from her own lips, that she had been blind for several years. There is a great thing about this. Mrs. Pilcher, in spite of her handicap, is very happy and possesses, too, an intellect of a penetrating character.

Anyway, I spent an hour or so with this happy couple and my interest did not falter until I finally left them with a “God bless you both”.

“Tom, I suppose you have been associated with horses, coaches and the like all your life?” That was my opening query.

“Well”, answered Tom, “my father was a job master at Margate and ran the regular four-horse coach between Margate and Canterbury, and as a boy I tootled the coach horn. That was about fifty six years ago. Subsequently I came over to Folkestone, and in my younger days was employed by one or other of the livery stables in various capacities. It was at this period I rode in the Wye steeplechases for three years in succession and came in a winner in one of the events on Invicta – a splendid mount, whilst on another occasion at Terlingham Meadow, Hawkinge, I rode a horse against the late Mr. Jones` selection for £20 a side, and I lost”, remarked Tom, “and Mr. Jones (one of the best of men) honestly won”. Mr. Jones, who was a well-known livery stable keeper, was highly regarded at the time. I remember a considerable amount of money changed hands between local sportsmen.

“How about your connections with the Folkestone-Canterbury four-horse coach? I know something about this, Tom, for many`s the time and oft I have travelled on it”.

Tom reflected upon this for a moment, and then gave utterance to the following: “Ah, Felix, this is a big story, and one knows hardly how to commence it. I was `the man with the yard of tin`”. Chaffing me, Tom remarked “You know all about that”. There is something in this, for I often “ran over” by this means to the Cathedral City.

In reference to the coach, Tom said: “These were days of magnificent horse-flesh. Mr. J.P. Scott was the whip – and world famous at that. He drove the coach from Folkestone to Canterbury for many seasons”.

Tom, at this point, warmed up. “Scotty”, he said, “was a stern man with a heart of gold. He possessed consummate skill, and handled the ribbons in masterly style. He could do almost what he liked with a horse, and this without punishment. And that is true. If ever a man loved a horse, it was J.P. Scott”.

Tom here unconsciously drew a picture. He said “Just imagine. It is the height of the summer season. The coach, with its fine-matched team of greys, turns out of the East Kent Livery Yard into Sandgate Road. Scotty is on the box seat with his white top hat gently tilted. A privileged passenger (it may be a lady) has the honour of a place beside him on the box seat. The passengers have taken their places. Note those perfectly groomed horses, their coats glistening in the sun. They champ at their bits, impatient to be prancing along the road. A little crowd gathers round. Scotty, all alert, with the ribbons in their rightful places, between his fingers, calls out to me “All right, guard?” “Yes” I would reply. Then I tootled the music on the horn. The horses get into their collar, and they are soon prancing proudly along the Cheriton Road towards Elham. Where`s your motors with this lot, Felix?” Well, what could I reply? But there is no comparison.

Tom reminded me that Scotty worked this coach with 16 horses, changing both at Elham and Barham. After the season, with Scotty`s careful handling, they were sold at Tattersalls, often fetching fancy prices.

“Scotty”, continued Tom, “was a most generous man. He was a splendid conversationalist, and could spin coaching yarns by the score. Many are the distinguished people whom he would often carry on his coach”.

With pride, the old guard said of his employer: “Why, Scotty at the opening of the season would invite the Mayor and Corporation to take a trip on the coach to Canterbury and entertain them into the bargain with a champagne luncheon”. The old guard here pointed to a picture on the wall depicting members of the Corporation on the coach, and remarked, “Ah, they were the days then, if you like”.

I don`t see why I should not mention it, but on one occasion when I was travelling on the coach Scotty pulled up outside a blacksmith`s shop outside Barham and would insist upon me singing “The Village Blacksmith”. The coach was loaded with passengers. I at first refused the request, but Scotty being adamant, I had to comply, and did my best under strange but perhaps appropriate circumstances.

Tom here again took up the running. He said the people in the village kept the time of day by the sound of his “yard of tin”. Glorious was it at times up the valley. “Ah, Scotty was beloved in the countryside”.

Tom`s voice rather faltered when I remarked: “Ah! That was a terrible happening when the coach overturned at Barha, and dear old Scotty was killed”. Tom said: “Yes, in a sense it was terrible, but Scotty frequently expressed a hope that he would die with the “ribands” in his hands”. He had his wish. Similarly to the captain of the ship he stuck to his post to the last. The passengers escaped, but Scotty, terribly injured, grasped the reins with a death grip. His injured body was carried to the neighbouring cottage, where he passed away.

Explaining this accident, Tom said the horses had been feeding well with a good proportion of corn for months. They were as frisky as kittens. One of the team shied, causing the coach to swerve, with the result we all deplored.

Scotty was buried at Folkestone, and his funeral was a demonstration of respect. Whips representing the great coaching organisation in London were present, and messages were received from both sides of the Atlantic. He was the prince of whips, and no-one can contradict that. The flowers sent to the funeral were light and cheerful.

Scotty did not believe in things morbid, but preached and acted the gospel of cheerfulness and doing good by stealth. If ever a man knew Scotty, it was Tom Pilcher, and the bridegroom of 50 years ago treasures his memory. Tom knew how to manage horses in the stable and turned them out to the satisfaction of one of the sternest of critics. And Scotty once drove the coach through the winter between London and Virginia Water.

Folkestone Express 23-9-1933

Saturday, September 16th: Before DR. W.W. Nuttall, Alderman T.S. Franks, and Mr. W. Smith.

Robert Clarke was charged with placing himself in Sandgate Road for the purpose of gathering alms on the previous day.

Detective Constable Duke said at 7 o`clock the previous evening he was in Sandgate Road accompanied by Detective Constable Pierce. When near Timothy White`s premises he saw the prisoner accost several pedestrians. He kept him under observation and saw him receive something from two men, but did not give anything in return, and he had nothing in his hands. He saw him go into the saloon bar of the East Kent Arms in Sandgate Road and speak to several customers. He eventually left that bar and went into the private bar and spoke to customers in there. As he left the premises, he (witness) went up to him and told him he was a police officer and that he had had him under observation for 15 minutes, and that he would take him to the police station and charge him with placing himself in Sandgate Road for the purpose of gathering alms. Prisoner replied “What the ----?” His breath smelt strongly of methylated spirits, but he was not drunk. He brought the prisoner to the police station where he later charged him. He replied “I was selling postcards”. On being searched at the police station, he (witness) found in prisoner`s possession one sixpenny piece, 8½d. in coppers, thirty picture postcards, some bundles of bootlaces, and an empty bottle which had contained methylated spirits.

Prisober: Did I have some laces in my hand?

Witness: No, we found them in your pocket when we got to the police station.

Prisoner: You can only charge me with peddling without a certificate. I cannot get any work.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said only the previous morning the prisoner was warned by his officers to leave the town. He was then in suspicious circumstances, obviously begging. He, however, would not go. The prisoner had been before that Court tow or three times, the last occasion being on August 1st, when he was given 21 days` hard labour for begging. Clarke was what they would call a roadster. He had several convictions got drunkenness, and had been in that Court in 1930 for drunkenness. He only came out of prison on August 21st, but he had been at New Romney, Eastbourne, Hastings, Ramsgate, Dover, and Canterbury since.

The prisoner said he could not get any work. He had a few postcards and a dozen laces which he was offering for sale. He was unfit for work. He only came out of Dover Hospital just before he got the 21 days. He was wanting to get some money in order to get a pedlar`s certificate.

The Chief Constable: He would not be granted a pedlar`s certificate under any circumstances.

The Chairman: You do not seem to be able to learn a lesson. You need never starve. The Guardians will always provide for you. You were sentenced to three weeks recently, but it does not seem to have had any impression on you. You will have a month`s hard labour this time. 

Folkestone Herald 23-9-1933

Local News

Robert Clarke, who was sentenced to three weeks` hard labour last month for begging, was again before the Folkestone Magistrates on Saturday on a similar charge, and this time he received a month`s hard labour. He was charged with begging in Sandgate Road the previous day. He pleaded Not Guilty.

Detective Constable Duke said at 7 p.m. the previous day he was in Sandgate Road in company with Detective Constable Pearce, when he saw Clarke accosting pedestrians outside Messrs. Timothy White`s premises. Witness, continuing, said he kept prisoner under observation and saw him receive something from two men. He did not give anything in return, and he had nothing in his hands. He next went into the saloon bar of the East Kent Arms and spoke to several customers. He then left the bar and went into another, the private bar, and spoke to customers in there. As he left the premises, witness added, he went up to accused and told him he had had him under observation for 15 minutes. Clarke`s breath smelt strongly of methylated spirits, but he was not drunk. When charged at the police station he said “I was selling postcards”. On being searched, he found in his possession one sixpenny piece, 8½d. in coppers, 30 picture postcards, some bundles of bootlaces, and an empty bottle which had contained methylated spirits.

Clarke: Didn`t I have some laces in my hand? – No, they were in your pocket when I charged you at the police station.

Clarke: You can only charge me with peddling without a certificate. I cannot get any work.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said only the previous morning Clarke had been warned by one of his officers to leave the town. He had been before the Court two or three times. On the last occasion he was given 21 days` for begging. He was what they called a roadster. The Chief Constable said Clarke came out of prison on August 23rd. He had been to New Romney, Rye, Hastings and Eastbourne, and then worked his way back to Folkestone.

Clarke said he could not get any work; in fact he was unfit for work. If he had 5s. he would have got himself a pedlar`s certificate.

The Chief Constable: He would not be granted a pedlar`s certificate under any circumstances.

The Chairman (Dr. W.W. Nuttall) said Clarke did not appear to have learned a lesson after his previous conviction in the court for begging. He need never starve; the Guardians provided for him. He sentence of three weeks` imprisonment last time did not seem to have made any impression on him; he would have a month`s hard labour this time.

Folkestone Express 12-6-1937

Local News

On Tuesday at the Folkestone Police Court the licence of the East Kent Arms Hotel was transferred from Mr. P.F.M Booker to Mrs. D.H. Funnell.

Mr. W.J. Mason, in making the appli­cation, said Mrs. Funnell would become Messrs. Worthington’s tenant if the magistrates agreed to it. Mr. Funnell held the licence previously, but the reason that he did not now undertake the same position was that he was not in good health. However, Mrs. Funnell managed the hotel for her husband when he was the licensee. She also managed the Swan Hotel at Hythe when her husband was the licensee there for five years. It was really a request that an experienced woman should be to take a licence in her own name and which she had previously managed.

The Chairman (Mr. W.R. Boughton) announced that the magistrates agreed to the temporary transfer, and Mr. Booker was excused attendance at the transfer sessions.

Folkestone Herald 12-6-1937

Local News

An application for a Protection Order in respect of the East Kent Arms, Sandgate Road, was made to the Magistrates at the Folkestone Police Court on Tuesday. The transfer was from Mr. Percy F.M. Booker to Mrs. Dorothy H. Funnell, 126, Sandgate Road.

Mr. W.J. Mason, making the applica­tion, said the house had been sold to Messrs. Worthington, and Mrs. Funnell would become their tenant. Mrs. Funnell had managed this very properly for many years when the licence was held by her husband, Mr. Frank Funnell.

The Magistrates granted the application

 
 

 
 
 

 
 

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