Thanks And Acknowledgements

My thanks go to Kent Libraries and Archives - Folkestone Library and also to the archive of the Folkestone Herald. For articles from the Folkestone Observer, my thanks go to the Kent Messenger Group. Southeastern Gazette articles are from UKPress Online, and Kentish Gazette articles are from the British Newspaper Archive. See links below.

Paul Skelton`s great site for research on pubs in Kent is also linked

Other sites which may be of interest are the Folkestone and District Local History Society, the Kent History Forum, Christine Warren`s fascinating site, Folkestone Then And Now, and Step Short, where I originally found the photo of the bomb-damaged former Langton`s Brewery, links also below.


Welcome

Welcome to Even More Tales From The Tap Room.

Core dates and information on licensees tenure are taken from Martin Easdown and Eamonn Rooney`s two fine books on the pubs of Folkestone, Tales From The Tap Room and More Tales From The Tap Room - unfortunately now out of print. Dates for the tenure of licensees are taken from the very limited editions called Bastions Of The Bar and More Bastions Of The Bar, which were given free to very early purchasers of the books.

Easiest navigation of the site is by clicking on the PAGE of the pub you are looking for and following the links to the different sub-pages. Using the LABELS is, I`m afraid, not at all user-friendly.

Contrast Note

Whilst the above-mentioned books and supplements represent an enormous amount of research over many years, it is almost inevitable that further research will throw up some differences to the published works. Where these have been found, I have noted them. This is not intended to detract in any way from previous research, but merely to indicate that (possible) new information is available.

Contribute

If you have any anecdotes or photographs of the pubs featured in this Blog and would like to share them, please mail me at: jancpedersen@googlemail.com.

If you`ve enjoyed your visit here, why not buy me a pint, using the button at the end of the "Labels" section?


Search This Blog

Saturday, 7 June 2014

Gun Tavern 1920s - 1930s



Folkestone Express 15-4-1922

Local News

The licence of the Gun Tavern has been transferred from Mr. H. Straughan to Mr. Donald Cook.

Folkestone Express 17-8-1929

Tuesday, August 13th: Before Alderman T.S. Franks, Mrs. E. Gore, Mr. W. Smith and Mr. R.J. Stokes.

Donald Cook, the landlord of the Gun Tavern, Cheriton Road, was summoned for serving intoxicating liquors during non-permitted hours on August 3rd, and also for aiding and abetting Harry Gosney in the consumption of the drink. Harry Gosney was summoned for consuming intoxicating liquor on the licensed premises on August 3rd during non-permitted hours. Mr. A.K. Mowll appeared for the defence, and pleaded Not Guilty.

Inspector Pittock said he was on duty on the 3rd August at a quarter past eleven, when he was with P.S. Hollands outside the Gun Tavern. He saw lights in the window and heard voices. He got on to a short wall, and looked into the fanlight, where he got an uninterrupted view of the bar. He saw defendant, Mr. Gosney, sitting on a chair at the right of the bar. Sitting next to him was his wife on the settee, and seated next to her was a Mrs. Mayne, and her husband was standing at the end of the settee talking to defendant. There was no serving bar in this room. Mrs. Cook and her daughter were standing by the door leading through the private bar to the premises. That was the total number of occupants in the room. On a table, which was in the centre of the room, were two glasses containing amber coloured liquor, apparently ale. They were half full, and there was froth on the top. They were opposite Mr. Mayne and his wife. There was an empty wine glass opposite Mrs. Gosney, on the table, and a stout glass, half full, was opposite defendant Gosney. Witness gave certain instructions to Sergt. Hollands, who looked through the fanlight,, and then went and knocked at the door, while he (witness) again took up his position at the fanlight. Miss Cook made some remark, and immediately snatched up the two ale glasses and carried them with the contents into the adjoining bar. The man Mayne bolted out the back of the premises. Defendant Gosney immediately took up his glass and consumed practically all the contents. He then placed the glass between himself and his wife. The door was locked. As soon as it was opened by Mr. Cook (it was opened in two minutes at the most), witness immediately went to defendant Gosney, and said to him “Where is your glass?”, and he made no reply. Witness looked down between Gosney and his wife, and saw that the latter was holding a stout glass in her left hand, well concealed by her skirt. He took the glass from her and said to Cook “I have been keeping observation on this room during the last five minutes through the fanlight, and when I saw the Sergeant knock the door your daughter took two glasses containing ale from this table into the bar, and it appeared to me to be freshly drawn”. He asked him where his clock was, and he switched on the light, and the time by the clock was 11.23. Mr. Cook said the clock was five minutes fast. There were two barmen in the bar clearing up. He took the names of those present, and said to him “Where is Mr. Mayne? I saw him talking to you just before I entered”. He replied “I do not know. He must have gone out”. P.S. Hollands searched for him, but could not find him. He tasted the contents of the wine glass, but was unable to ascertain what it contained. He tasted the contents of the stout glass, and found it to contain stout. Mrs. Cook said “That is Guinness. It was served before ten thirty. He pointed out to Mr. Cook the froth on the top of the remaining stout, and told him he was of opinion it had been recently drawn, and Mrs, Cook said “It will be the same in the morning of you take it away”.

The Clerk (Mr. J. Andrew): Did you not avail yourself of the offer?

Inspector Pittock: No.

The Chief Constable: Is that your experience about the stout?

Inspector Pittock: No.

Witness, continuing, said he then said to defendant Gosney that he would be reported for consuming liquor on licensed premises during non-permitted hours, and also told Mr. Cook that he would be reported for aiding and abetting in the consumption of the drink. He further said that he would probably be reported for serving intoxicating liquor during non-permitted hours. Gosney made no reply, and Mr. Cook said “There has been no offence committed here”.

Inspector Pittock, in reply to the Clerk, said he told the girl that he saw her with the glasses, and she replied that she was “doing” the glasses.

In cross-examination, Inspector Pittock said that day was probably one of the busiest days of the year. The barmen were engaged in washing up the glasses in the bar, but there was no light on when he entered the bar. While he was looking through the fanlight the door opened.

P.S. Hollands said he was with Inspector Pittock practically the whole of the time. At 11.15 he heard voices in the saloon bar, and Inspector Pittock looked through the fanlight. He also looked through, and he saw the people mentioned by Inspector Pittock. What the Inspector had said was correct. He tried the door as he knocked, and found it was locked. It was opened as quickly as possible. He corroborated Inspector Pittock.

In reply to the Clerk, the Sergeant said he saw no consumption by anyone. He saw the glasses containing intoxicating liquor.

Questioned by Mr. Mowll, witness said the defendant from the first denied that he had committed any offence.

Mr. Mowll said he did not propose to call any evidence at all. In his view they had some evidence which the Magistrates might say or might not think sufficient to convict Mr. Gosney of consuming some stout during prohibited hours. The evidence had been quite fairly given by the police. He did not attach the slightest importance to the allusion that there might be froth on the glasses. The answer was not supplying to A, B, or C, ale or wine, but supplying to Gosney some glasses of stout. There was no evidence whatever that would justify the Magistrates in holding that the licensee was liable to be convicted for supplying, for the only evidence, if it could be called such, was that they had a momentary glance through the fanlight by those officers, who said there was froth in the glass. The only offence with which he really had to deal, so far as the licensee was concerned, was whether he aided and abetted the consumption. He would like to point out there was scarcely more than a small portion of Guinness in the glass on that occasion. What happened was that those people were friends of Mr. Cook, and they were in that little room. The bar was in the next place. They were all sitting down. As they had heard, the barmen were busy at work washing up the glasses. That Saturday was the one day in the year when licensed victuallers could make a little money, because it was the Saturday before August Bank Holiday. Most of the houses were full of people. Those people, who were friends of the landlord, stayed behind after the house closed. Of course, they were perfectly entitled to have drinks supplied to them before half past ten. Mr. Gosney, whose wife was not at all well, stayed behind, and it was perfectly true when he saw the Sergeant open the door he did take a drink from that glass of Guinness. He (Mr. Mowll) therefore supposed he had committed an offence under the licensing laws. What the Magistrates had to decide was whether, on the evidence before them, it could be said properly that the licensee aided and abetted that offence. From start to finish Mr. Cook said “What is wrong? I have done nothing wrong”, which showed perfectly clearly that he had not had any idea that that man had in fact taken any drink at all. Undoubtedly the Magistrates would consider the difficult occupation of the licensed victuallers especially on a day like that. From the time the police knocked on the door there was no suggestion that the licensee committed any offence. The proper place for the glasses was where they were, in order to wash them up. They were summoned for supplying to Gosney, therefore he really suggested that the Magistrates had to decide whether it could be properly suggested that Cook aided and abetted the consumption. Could the Magistrates on the facts say that the licensee in fact aided and abetted consumption. He suggested to them that it would be improper to convict the defendant on that summons. The defendant had been seven or eight years in the house, and he was a man who had a wonderful record. He won a commission on the field during the War, and he was paid £150 for disability with regard to the burning of his face and hands. He had five children, four of them under ten years of age. As they knew it was a serious thing for a licensed victualler to be convicted, for it meant that not only would his present brewers have nothing to do with him, but if he applied for any other house he had to present testimonials, and the first thing that would be brought against him would be a conviction. He was going to say, however unfortunate that matter might be, having regard to all the circumstances of the case, it would be wrong to convict that man because of the fact that the other man on the spur of the moment might have lost his head and drunk out of the glass.

The Magistrates retired, and on their return to the Court the Chairman said the Magistrates had decided that both cases were proved, and there would be a conviction in the case of supplying drink.

The Chief Constable (Mr. Beesley) said the defendant had held the licence since 1922 for that house. That was not the first occasion by many that they had known that a certain amount of offences had gone on on the premises. The Magistrates would see that he had given licensees, as well as other people, a fair chance, and that every possible warning was given to them. On March 9th, 1925, he had a caution, and on 26th April, 1926, for a somewhat similar offence, he was strictly cautioned by him. He might say ot was difficult to produce sufficient evidence in those cases to obtain a conviction, and under those circumstances he (the Chief Constable) had to exercise his discretion. He did it in that way by administering a caution. That was not, however, enough, for on 24th February, 1929, again in a somewhat similar set of circumstances, Inspector Cradduck gave him another caution. Therefore the defendant Cook had had every possible opportunity.

The Chairman said the penalty for supplying the drink would be £5, and although there was a conviction in the second case for aiding and abetting the consumption, there would be no penalty. Gosney would be fined £1.

Inspector Pittock and P.S. Hollands were called forward, and the Chairman, addressing them, said “The Bench desire me to compliment you on the fair way you have given your evidence in this case”.
 
Folkestone Herald 17-8-1929

Local News

At the Folkestone Petty Sessions on Tuesday, Donald Cook, licensee of the Gun Tavern, Folkestone, was summoned for supplying intoxicating liquor during prohibited hours on August 3rd, and also for aiding and abetting Harry Gosney in the consumption of the drink. Harry Gosney was summoned for consuming intoxicating liquor at the same time.

Cook was fined £5 for supplying intoxicating liquor after hours, and Gosney was fined £1 for consuming liquor at the same time. Mr. A.K. Mowll, of Canterbury, defended.

Inspector Pittock said he was on duty on August 3rd in plain clothes, in company with Sergeant Hollands, in Oxford Terrace, Folkestone. He saw lights and heard voices in the Gun Tavern. He and Sergeant Hollands climbed on to a short wall in Oxford Terrace, and looked through the fanlight into the bar of the Gun Tavern. They both had an uninterrupted view of the bar. Defendant Gosney was seated on a chair at the right of the bar. Seated near to him was his wife on a settee. Seated next to her was a Mrs, Mayne. Mr. Mayne was seated at the end of the settee, talking to defendant Cook. Cook was not behind the bar – there was no serving bar there at all. Mrs. Cook and her daughter were in the doorway of the private bar. In the centre of the room was a table. There were two glasses containing an amber liquid, apparent ale, each about half full, with froth on the top. These were opposite Mr. Mayne and his wife. There was an empty wine glass opposite Mrs. Gosney on the table, and a stout glass opposite defendant Gosney, which was about half full of stout. Witness gave instructions to Sergt. Hollands, who looked through the fanlight. Whilst witness was looking through the fanlight, Sergt. Hollands went and knocked on the door. As he knocked, Miss Cook made some remark and snatched up the two ale glasses, and carried them into the adjoining bar. The man Mayne bolted out to the back of the premises. There were three doors to the bar. Defendant Gosney immediately picked up his stout glass and consumed practically all the contents, and placed the glass down between himself and his wife. When witness entered he saw the glass in Mrs. Gosney`s hand. The door was locked when Sergt. Hollands knocked, and Mr. Cook opened it. Witness immediately went to defendant Gosney, and said to him “Where is your glass?” Gosney was still seated, and his wife was sitting beside him. He made no reply, and witness, on looking down, saw Mrs. Gosney had the glass on her lap, well concealed by her skirt. Witness took the glass from her and said to Gosney “I have just seen you consuming from this glass”. Gosney made no reply. Mr. Cook said “What`s wrong?” Witness said “I have just seen this man consuming from this glass. I have been keeping observation on this room during the past five minutes through the fanlight, and when the sergeant knocked on the door I saw your daughter take two glasses containing ale from this table into this bar, and it appeared to me to be freshly drawn”. Witness also asked him where his stock was. They went into the adjoining bar, switched on the light, and the clock said 11.23. Mr. Cook remarked that the clock was five minutes fast. In the bar were two barmen washing and cleaning up glasses. Witness then went back and took the names of those present, and said “Where is Mr. Mayne? I saw him talking to you just before I entered”. Mr. Cook replied “I don`t know. He must have gone out”. Witness then instructed Sergt. Hollands to look for him, but he could not find him. Witness tested the remains in the stout glass, and found it was stout. Mrs. Cook, who was present, said “That is Guinness. It was served before 10.30”. Witness pointed out to Mr. Cook the froth on the remaining stout, and told him he was of the opinion that it had been recently drawn. Mrs. Cook said “Yes, it will be the same in the morning of you like to take it away and keep it”.

The Clerk (Mr. J. Andrew): You did not avail yourself of her offer, I suppose? (Laughter) – No, sir.

Witness then told defendant Gosney he would be reported for consuming intoxicating liquor on licensed premises in non-permitted hours, and also told Mr. Cook he would be reported too for aiding and abetting in the consumption of drink, and that he would probably also be reported for supplying intoxicating drink in non-permitted hours. Gosney made no reply, and Mr. Cook said “There`s been no offence committed here”.

Mr. Mowll: I suppose this day was the Saturday before Bank Holiday, was it not? Probably the busiest day in the year? – One of the busiest, yes.

When you arrived you found they were still engaged in washing glasses? – Yes, they were, but there was no light on at first.

Sergt. Hollands said he was on duty with Inspector Pittock at 11.15 near the Gun Tavern. There was a light in the bar, and they heard voices, so Inspector Pittock looked through the fanlight, and told witness to do the same. When witness knocked there was no delay in answering. Witness further corroborated Inspector Pittock`s evidence.

This concluded the case for the prosecution.

Mr. Mowll said he did not propose to call any evidence in the case at all. In his view the Bench had some evidence which they might or might not think sufficient to convict Mr. Gosney of consuming some stout during prohibited hours. The only evidence they had was a momentary glance through the fanlight by the two officers. The only offence he (Mr. Mowll) had got to deal with was whether the licensee aided and abetted the consumption of a small portion of Guinness on that occasion. Mr. Gosney had not denied the consumption of that. As the Bench had heard, the barmen were busy at work washing up glasses. If there was any time in the year when a licensee could make money, it was on the Saturday before Bank Holiday. He probably had a lot of people in that evening, and then those people described by the police stayed behind, and they were perfectly entitled to, being served before 10.30. From start to finish, when the police arrived on the scene, Mr. Cook said “What`s wring? I have done nothing wrong”. So he had no idea that that man (Gosney) had been taking any drink at all. Cook had been from seven to eight years in the house. He was a man who had a wonderful record. He got his commission on the field during the war, and was paid £150 disability.

Having regard to the circumstances of the case, Mr. Mowll thought it would be wrong to convict the licensee, just because on the spur of the moment the man (Gosney) lost his head and took a drink from his glass, which he did not want at all.

After a lengthy retirement the Bench decided to convict.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said defendant had held the licence of the house since 1922. This was not the first occasion that the police had known. On March 9th, 1925, defendant was cautioned. In 1926 he personally strictly cautioned him. In some cases, when he could not secure a conviction, the speaker had to use his discretion by a warning. On February 24th, 1929, under similar circumstances, Inspector Cradduck also cautioned defendant.

The Chairman (Alderman T.S. Franks) said the Bench desired him to compliment both Inspector Pittock and Sergt. Hollands on the fair way they had given evidence.

Folkestone Herald 9-11-1929

Local News

At the Folkestone Petty Sessions on Tuesday a protection order was granted to Mr. T.F. Green, of Staplehurst, the new tenant of the Gun Tavern, Guildhall Street.

Folkestone Herald 9-4-1932

Local News

There was a sequel to an accident in Cheriton Road, near the Christ Church Schools, at the Folkestone Police Court on Tuesday, when Allred Cecil Durban of Enbrook Manor, Cher¡ton, was fined £2 and £1 12s. costs for driving a motor vehicle in a manner dangerous to the public.
Defendant was represented by Mr. H. Chapple and pleaded Not Guilty. The Magistrates were: the Mayor (Alderman J.W. Stainer) in the Chair, Alderman K.G. Wood, Mr. W. Griffin, Colonel G.P. Owen and Mr. S.B. Corser

Arthur D. Hickman, 92, Royal Military Avenue, Chenton, a driver in the employ of the East Kent Road Car Company, said on March 21st  about 9 a.m. he was driving his 'bus towards Cheriton, and when opposite Christ Church Schools, he mw a little blue van being driven to­wards him at rather a fast rate. He estimated the speed at 40 miles an hour; certainly not less. He anticipated an accident owing to the dangerous part of the road, there being a bend about 30 yards further on. He slowed down his 'bus and as the car flashed past him witness stopped and turned his head to follow the car on.  He saw the van give a slight jar as if it had gone over a brick. Immediately after he saw a little boy lying in the road within two feet of the kerb. The van did not stop, neither did the driver slacken his speed. Witness jumped out of his cabin and picked up the boy. He was seriously hurt about the head and bleed­ing.  Whilst he was helping to put the injured lad in a motor-cycle combination the defendant appeared. He said to him “Were you the driver of that van?" He said "Yes, the child attempted to cross the road in front of my car”. Defendant accompanied the boy to the hospital. There was no other vehicular traffic beside the `bus and the van. He did not hear Durban sound his horn.

Cross-examined, witness said he always sounded his horn at that spot. Defendant was going too quickly to pull up. He was not biased in his evidence. He thought defendant lost his head. He could not nee what happened on the off­side of defendant’s car, and he had not sad that the van knocked the boy down. He could not see whether the boy stepped off the pavement into the van.

Thomas Frederick Green, the licensee of the Gun Tavern, Cheriton Road, said he saw the van "Shoot by him at about 20 miles an hour", and then pull up out­side the Shakespeare Hotel. He saw a boy in the road about a yard from the kerb. Defendant came up from his van. The van swerved to avoid the boy and the back part of it caught the boy. He put defendant`s speed at over 40 miles per hour at the time.

By Mr. Chapple: He was about 50 yards from the scene of the accident. He did not think that the boy would have been knocked down had defendant had proper control of the van. On defendant’s side of the road there was a hand truck.

Charles John Berridge, 23, Cambridge Gardens, said he was outside the Victoria Hall, in Cheriton Road, when the van flashed past him at about 40 miles per hour. He noticed a 'bus coming towards Cheriton, opposite Cross's garage. There was a little boy on the pavement. As the van passed the 'bus it swerved to avoid a truck further down. The boy turned to step off the path, and the next he saw was the boy in the road and the van disappearing round the corner.

Cross-examined, witness said he could not say exactly how the boy was knocked down.

Miss Catherine O'Brien, a teacher of the Roman Catholic Schools, Cheriton Road, gave the speed of the van as “rather abnormal”. She said she saw the van go to the right and then a boy in the road. There was a School caution sign there.

Alfred Corbitt, a porter, said the speed of the van was “very fast". He saw the van hit the child and knock the lad to­wards the kerb. The boy was about three feet from the kerb. No warning was given.

By Mr. Chapple: It was so quick that he could not say what part of the van hit the boy.

Police Constable Dickenson said about 9 a.m. on March 21st, he went to Cheriton Road, where he saw that an accident had occurred outside the Christ Church Schools. At that point the road was 18 feet 8 inches wide. There was one blood mark a foot from the pavement, but there were no skid marks. He saw defendant's van 65 yards away. There were blood and hair marks on the back of the van. He took a statement from defendant who estimated his speed at about 30 to 33 m.p.h. He said that he saw the boy standing on the pavement as he approached. As he was passing he thought he saw the boy move. He did not know whether he had hit him, but as he saw people running back he pulled up and stopped.

By Mr. Chapple: The accident was in the straight part of the road, which swerved after that.

Defendant said he was driving a van for the delivery and collection of papers. He was driving in from Cheriton to the Town Hall. There was a boy standing on the pavement. He passed him, and he did not know that he had hit him until he saw people running from the corner of the School to where witness had just passed. He could not pull up immediately because there was something standing on his side. The boy was stand­ing on the kerb when he first saw him. His speed was 30 to 33 m.p.h. just before the accident. He was slowing down, and there was nothing in front of him. He was used to driving, having had a licence for two years. The brakes were re-lined ten days before the accident and he could have pulled up in 18 feet, going at 30 m.p.h.. He had the car under proper control more or less.

Mr. Chapple said if there had not been an accident there would not have been any prosecution. They were not the cause of the accident, and he submitted that the case should be dismissed.

The Mayor said the Magistrates had come to the conclusion that defendant was guilty of driving to the danger of the public. Defendant would be fined £2 and ordered to pay witnesses` expenses amounting to £1 12s.

Mr. Chapple asked for a week for the payment of the fine and this was granted.
 
 
 

 

No comments:

Post a Comment