Folkestone
Express 4-6-1910
Wednesday, June 1st: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Major Leggett, and Messrs. J. Stainer, G.I.
Swoffer, and G. Boyd.
An old offender, named Tappenden, pleaded Guilty to
being drunk and disorderly.
P.C. Styles said the previous afternoon he was called
to the True Briton Hotel, Harbour Street, to eject the prisoner, who was drunk.
He went outside, but afterwards re-entered the premises. Witness told him he
should report him. On going outside, prisoner behaved in a disorderly manner,
which caused a number of people to assemble, and he took him into custody.
The Chief Constable said there were five previous
convictions for drunkenness, the last one being in September last year.
Fined 10s. and 4s. 6d. costs, Tappenden being given
until Saturday to pay.
Folkestone
Herald 4-6-1910
Wednesday, June 1st: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Major Leggett, and Messrs. J. Stainer, G.I.
Swoffer, and G. Boyd.
John Tappenden was charged with being drunk and
disorderly in Harbour Street on the previous day.
P.C. Styles said that he was called to the True Briton
Hotel, in Harbour Street, to eject prisoner, who was drunk, and refused to
leave the premises. He persuaded Tappenden to leave, but a few minutes
afterwards he went back. Coming out, he began to be very disorderly, and caused
a crowd to collect. Witness took him into custody.
The Chief Constable said there were five previous
convictions against accused for drunkenness, the last of which was in
September, 1909.
Fined 10s. and 4s. 6d. costs, and allowed until Saturday
to pay.
Folkestone
Express 30-7-1910
Saturday, July 23rd: Before Messrs. W.G.
Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, and G. Boyd, and Lieut. Col.
Hamilton.
The licence of the True Briton Hotel was temporarily
transferred from Mr. Carter to Mr. Hopkins.
Folkestone
Herald 30-7-1910
Saturday, July 23rd: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Messrs. R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, J. Stainer, and
G.I. Swoffer.
The licence of the True Briton was temporarily
transferred from Mr. Carter to Mr. Hopkins.
Folkestone
Express 27-8-1910
Local News
On Wednesday morning the licence of the True Briton
Hotel, Harbour Street, was temporarily transferred from Mr. Carter to Mr.
Hopkins.
Folkestone
Daily News 30-11-1910
Wednesday, November 30th: Before Messrs.
Herbert, Stainer, Leggett, Fynmore, and Linton.
Plans for the alteration of the True Briton were
submitted.
Folkestone
Express 3-12-1910
Wednesday, November 30th: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, Major Leggett, and J. Stainer and R.J. Linton
Esqs.
Plans were submitted for proposed alterations to the
bars of the True Briton Hotel, and the Magistrates approved of them, subject to
certain amendments.
Folkestone
Herald 3-12-1910
Wednesday, November 30th: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Major Leggett, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and Messrs. R.J. Linton and J.
Stainer.
Mr. W. Hopkins, landlord of the True Briton Hotel,
Harbour Street, applied for sanction to a slight alteration to his premises.
With a slight alteration, the plans submitted were
passed.
Folkestone
Daily News 18-5-1911
Tuesday, May 16th: Before Messrs. Hamilton,
Stainer, Linton, and Leggett.
James Patrick Eugene Reilly was charged with being
drunk and disorderly. He said he was drunk, but had doubts as to whether he was
disorderly.
P.C. Ashby proved the case, and said prisoner would not
go away, but went to the True Briton, where they refused to serve him.
Fined 14s. 6d., including costs, and allowed `til
Friday to pay.
Folkestone
Express 20-5-1911
Tuesday, May 16th: Before Lieut. Colonel
Hamilton, Major Leggett, and J. Stainer and R.J. Linton Esqs.
James Patrick Eugene O`Reilly was charged with being
drunk and disorderly. Prisoner said he was drunk, but he did not think he was
disorderly.
P.C. Ashby said at about 2 p.m. the previous day he was
in Harbour Street when he saw Reilly very drunk. He was shouting and swearing
so he (witness) requested him to desist and go away. He refused to do so, but
followed him. Witness again cautioned him, and the prisoner went into the True
Briton public house, where he was refused drink. He then took him into custody.
The Chief Constable said the prisoner was a local man,
and had five convictions against him for drunkenness, the last being two years
ago.
The Magistrates fined the prisoner 10s. and 4s. 6d.
costs, or in default 14 days` hard labour, but he was allowed until Friday
evening for payment.
At
the Police Court on Wednesday the following licence was transferred: The True Briton,
from Mr. H. Buckland to Mr. E.W. James.
Friday, October 10th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison, and Councillor A. Stace.
John Tappenden was summoned for being drunk on licensed premises.
P.C. Sales deposed that at about 8.45 p.m. on the 4th inst. he was in Harbour Street, where he saw the defendant in the bar of the True Briton. By his appearance witness formed the opinion that Tappenden was drunk. He went up to defendant, and said “What are you doing here, Tappenden? You are drunk”. Witness then drew the landlord`s attention to Tappenden`s condition, and he replied “Yes. I refused to serve him three times, and asked him to leave the premises, but he refused to leave the house”. Witness then advised defendant to leave, and told him he would report him for being drunk on licensed premises. He replied “I can`t be drunk, Sergeant. I can`t get any beer”. He then left the house.
Defendant: You say I am always drunk; I must have been born drunk. You watch me like a cat watching a mouse.
P.C. Fox corroborated P.S. Sales`s evidence.
Defendant maintained that he could always drunk eight and twenty pints before he considered himself drunk.
The Chief Constable said there were nine conviction for drunkenness, the last being in June of this year.
Fined 5s. and 10s. costs.
The Chairman said that the Bench were strongly of opinion that the landlord should have taken the proper steps himself to have had the accused ejected after having refused to serve him three times, or the police should not have been called in. He (the landlord) did not do his proper duty.
Folkestone
Daily News 23-7-1912
Tuesday, July 23rd: Before Messrs. Vaughan,
Fynmore, Owen and Giles.
The licence of the True Briton was transferred from Mr.
Hopkins to Mr. Willis (sic).
Folkestone
Express 27-7-1912
Tuesday, July 23rd: Before Alderman Vaughan,
Lieut. Col. Fynmore, J.J. Giles Esq., and Colonel Owen.
The licence of the True Briton Hotel was temporarily
transferred to Mr. Herbert Edward Buckland.
Folkestone
Herald 24-8-1912
Wednesday, August 21st: Before Mr. E.T.
Ward, Councillor C. Jenner, and Col. G.P. Owen.
The licence of the True Briton Hotel was transferred
from Mr. W. Hopkins to Mr. Herbert E. Butler (sic).
Folkestone
Daily News 31-12-1912
Tuesday, December 31st: Before Messrs.
Herbert, Swoffer, Boyd, Linton, Stainer, Leggett, Harrison, and Stace.
An application for the transfer of the licence of the
True Briton from the present occupier, who is giving up through ill health, was
granted for a fortnight.
Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.
Folkestone
Express 4-1-1913
Tuesday, December 31st: Before W.G. Herbert,
J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, W.J. Harrison and A. Stace
Esqs., and Major Leggett.
The licence of the True Briton, Harbour Street, was
temporarily transferred from Mr. H. Buckland, who had to leave owing to
ill-health, to Mr. E.W. James.
Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.
Folkestone
Herald 4-1-1913
Tuesday,
December 31st: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. G.I.
Swoffer, Major Leggett, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Councillor W.J.
Harrison and Councillor A. Stace.Application
was made for the transfer of the licence of the True Briton, Harbour
Street, from Mr. Herbert Edwin Buckland to Mr. Edward William James.
The tenant stated that he was applying for the transfer in
consequence of ill health. The temporary transfer was granted.Note:
Date is at variance with More Bastions.
Folkestone
Express 18-1-1913
Local News
Folkestone
Herald 18-1-1913
Local
News
At a special transfer sessions of the Folkestone Borough Bench, before Mr. E.T. Ward, Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Major G.E. Leggett, Mr. R.J. Linton, and Mr. G. Boyd, the llicence of the True Briton was transferred from Mr. H. Buckland to Mr. Edward W. James. Mr. Buckland, it was stated, was giving up the licence as his doctor advised him to leave the town.
At a special transfer sessions of the Folkestone Borough Bench, before Mr. E.T. Ward, Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Major G.E. Leggett, Mr. R.J. Linton, and Mr. G. Boyd, the llicence of the True Briton was transferred from Mr. H. Buckland to Mr. Edward W. James. Mr. Buckland, it was stated, was giving up the licence as his doctor advised him to leave the town.
Folkestone
Daily News 10-10-1913
Friday,
October 10th:
Before Messrs. Herbert, Linton, Stainer, Swoffer, Harrison, Stace,
Morrison, and Boyd.
John
Tappenden pleaded Not Guilty to a summons charging him with being
drunk on licensed premises (i.e. the True Briton Hotel).
Sergt.
Sales and P.C. Fox gave evidence for the prosecution.
It
transpired that the landlord of the house said he had refused to
serve defendant three times, and had requested him to leave the
premises. The landlord had admitted to the sergeant that defendant
was drunk.
Defendant
said he could always drink about 28 pints before he was drunk, and on
this occasion he had only had three or four pints.
Twelve
previous convictions were put in
Fined
5s. and 10s. costs.
Folkestone
Herald 11-10-1913
Friday, October 10th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison, and Councillor A. Stace.
John Tappenden was summoned for being drunk on licensed premises.
P.C. Sales deposed that at about 8.45 p.m. on the 4th inst. he was in Harbour Street, where he saw the defendant in the bar of the True Briton. By his appearance witness formed the opinion that Tappenden was drunk. He went up to defendant, and said “What are you doing here, Tappenden? You are drunk”. Witness then drew the landlord`s attention to Tappenden`s condition, and he replied “Yes. I refused to serve him three times, and asked him to leave the premises, but he refused to leave the house”. Witness then advised defendant to leave, and told him he would report him for being drunk on licensed premises. He replied “I can`t be drunk, Sergeant. I can`t get any beer”. He then left the house.
Defendant: You say I am always drunk; I must have been born drunk. You watch me like a cat watching a mouse.
P.C. Fox corroborated P.S. Sales`s evidence.
Defendant maintained that he could always drunk eight and twenty pints before he considered himself drunk.
The Chief Constable said there were nine conviction for drunkenness, the last being in June of this year.
Fined 5s. and 10s. costs.
The Chairman said that the Bench were strongly of opinion that the landlord should have taken the proper steps himself to have had the accused ejected after having refused to serve him three times, or the police should not have been called in. He (the landlord) did not do his proper duty.
Folkestone
Express 18-10-1913
Friday, October 10th: Before W.G. Herbert,
J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, J. Harrison, E.T. Morrison, and
A. Stace Esqs.
John Tappenden, a labouring man, was charged with being
drunk on licensed premises at the True Briton. He pleaded Not Guilty.
P.S. Sales said about 8.45 p.m. on the 4th
inst. he was in Harbour Street, when he saw the defendant in the bar of the
True Briton, Harbour Street. By his appearance he formed the opinion that the
defendant was drunk. He said to Tappenden “What are you doing in here when you
are drunk?” He replied “I have had no beer, sergeant. They won`t serve me”. He
(witness) said to the landlord, who was behind the bar “You see this man`s
condition, landlord. He is drunk”. The landlord replied “Yes, I have refused to
serve him three times, and asked him to leave the premises, but he would not
go”. He (witness) advised the defendant to leave, and at the same time told him
he should report him for being drunk on licensed premises. He replied “I cannot
be drunk, Sergeant, for I cannot get any beer”. He then left the house.
Defendant`s whole appearance showed that he was drunk. He also smelt very
strongly of drink.
Defendant (to witness): You always say I am drunk.
Always drunk; born drunk. They follow me about like a cat watching a mouse.
P.C. Fox, in corroborating P.S. Sales, said the
defendant was standing in the house in a reeling condition.
Defendant said he could not be drunk for he had had
only about three drinks. He could always drink eight-and-twenty pints before he
considered himself drunk.
The Chief Constable (Mr. Reeve) said there were twelve
convictions against the defendant, nine for drunkenness, the last being in June
of that year.
The Chairman said the defendant would be fined 5/- and
10/- costs. With regard to the landlord, the Magistrates considered that he
should have ejected the defendant or sent for the police when he refused to go.
Folkestone
Daily News 3-3-1914
Local News
Great consternation was caused this (Tuesday) morning
at the Police Court when three licensed victuallers were summoned for selling
cigarettes between 6 and 7 on a Wednesday evening.
The Bench consisted of Alderman Vaughan, Messrs. Giles,
Fynmore, Jenner, Owen, and Boyd.
The defendants were Charles Henry Barker, John William
Summerfield, Edward William James, and Julia Willson. Mr. Holme appeared for
the defence, and the Town clerk prosecuted.
It appeared from the evidence that the defendants had
been asked to supply these goods, and were under the impression that they were
exempt.
As everyone knows, the legislature never included
licensed victuallers in the Act, and Folkestone would never have heard of this
prosecution but for the action of a few bona fide tobacco dealers, who
petitioned the Corporation to ask the Home Office.
The case of Mr. Summerfield was taken first. Mr. Holme,
for the defendant, pleaded Not Guilty.
The Town Clerk, in opening the case, said the summons
was issued under the Shops Act, 1912, and this was the first case taken under
the Act. He proceeded to deal with the provisions of the Act, and the adoption
of the Order by the local authority in respect to tobacconists.
Harold Summerfield, and assistant in the Sanitary
Inspector`s Office, said on February 18th he visited the Royal
Standard, Canterbury Road, at 6.37 p.m. He entered the bar parlour and asked
the assistant for a packet of shag tobacco. At first the assistant refused to
serve him, and said “It is Wednesday afternoon, and I cannot serve you”.
Witness said “Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The assistant called him
back, and said “I`ll oblige you this time. You must not tell anyone as we
should be getting into trouble”. He was served and paid 4d. for the tobacco.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holmes: Witness did not know
whether this public house had any different features as regards the sale of
tobacco to any other house. So far as witness was concerned, it was a mere
casual sale.
Mr. Holmes: A register is kept under the Act?
Witness: Yes.
Mr. Holme: Is the Royal Standard in the register?
The Town Clerk: No.
Mr. Holmes: Are any public houses in the register?
The Town Clerk: A few; the large ones.
Mr. Holmes: There is a notice in the Act which requires
that every person should be served with a notice.
The Town Clerk: I do not think the question should be
put.
Mr. Holme: Very well, I`ll get it from defendant that
no such notice was served.
The Town Clerk combatted the right to put the question
and Mr. Holme said for the present he would not press it.
The Town clerk: That closes my case.
Mr. Holme, opening the defence, dealt with the
interpretation of the Act, which had to be construed as an Act, which had to be
considered as the exception and not within the rule. He pointed out that if the
Act was to be seriously considered, he would take the early closing of fruit
shops. Why, absurd as the proposition was, it would equally apply to the
Metropole Hotel, where they could not supply vegetables and dessert on
Wednesday afternoons and evenings. Dealing with a circular from Mr. McKenna,
the Home Secretary, which pointed out that distinction could be made between
regular sale and casual sale, he said the prosecution had admitted that
exceptions had to be made, and having made exceptions and got within the walls
of the Act they must adopt a common-sense point of view. The Act exempted
licensed victuallers, unless brought in.
The Town Clerk: Not only licensed victuallers, but
other people.
Mr. Holme: Yes, but licensed victuallers are included,
and I am here today for the licensed victuallers.
The Town clerk: I submit that it is not within the
power of the Bench to go into anything subsequent to the Act. The section says
that the Order is an Act of Parliament.
Mr. Holme: If the case goes to the High Court it is
essential to get out all the points. I contend that the Order was never
intended to include my clients.
Mr. Andrew advised the Bench to accept the Town clerk`s
objection.
Mr. Holme: May I put my point? Can anything be more
unfair than not to consult the licensed victuallers, and then making an Order
including them in it? I do ask the Bench to consider the circumstances under
which the Order was made. The scheme of the Order says that before you bring in
an exempted class you must consult them. Voting papers must be sent out, or an
an alternative a petition from two thirds of the people affected. The licensed
victuallers were neither asked to vote, consulted, or asked to sign.
Proceeding, he seriously suggested that if the local authority intended to make
the Order, in all common sense the first thing that authority should have done
was consult those who they brought within the Order.
The Town Clerk: Then not being a substantial part of
the business, you would not be entitled to vote.
Mr. A.J. Hart, secretary to the Licensed Victuallers`
Association, said he had inspected the register at the Town Clerk`s office, and
did not find the name of a licensed victualler.
By Mr. Andrew: He did not look for the names of hotel
keepers, as that did not interest him.
Mr. Holme, the Town clerk, and Mr. Rutley Mowll
discussed the legal position with Mr. Andrew.
The Bench retired, and on returning said they
considered the case proved, but would not inflict any penalty on payment of
costs.
The other cases were withdrawn.
Folkestone
Express 7-3-1914
Local News
On Tuesday a most important point with regard to the
sale of tobacco by licensed victuallers on the weekly half holiday occupied the
attention of the Folkestone Magistrates for close upon two hours and a half.
The Magistrates consisted of Colonel Fynmore, G. Boyd and J.J. Giles Esqs., and
Col. Owen, and three licensed victuallers had been summoned.
The first case held was that of John William
Summerfield, the licensee of the Royal Standard, and he had been summoned for
contravening Section 4 of the Shops Act by selling tobacco on Wednesday,
February 18th, at 6.37 p.m., that being the weekly half holiday
fixed by the Town Council. Defendant pleaded Not uilty. Mr. A.F. Kidson (the
Town Clerk) prosecuted, and Mr. Randle F. Holme, of London, defended.
Mr. Kidson, in opening the case, said that was the
first summons to come before the Bench under that particular Act. He,
therefore, thought he ought to refer the Magistrates to the various Sections
bearing on the question. He then read Section 4 of the Act, which dealt with
the closing of shops on one half day of the week. He then pointed out that the
schedule exempted various trades, amongst which were the tobacconists. He
explained that sub-section 6 provided that the local authority might by Order
extend the provisions of the Act to the shops of any class exempted if they
were satisfied that at least two thirds of the occupiers of the class of shop
approved of the Order. The Council did make an Order under that provision with
regard to tobacconists, and it was confirmed by the Home Secretary. By
sub-section 7 of Section 4 it was provided that in case of any contravention or
failure to comply with any of the provisions, the occupier of the shop would be
guilty of an offence, and would be liable to a fine, for the first offence, not
exceeding £1. That was the first case which had come before the Bench. By
Section 6, sub-section 3, as soon as the Secretary of State had confirmed any
Order that Order became final, and had the effect of an Act of Parliament.
Complaint was received that licensed victuallers were infringing that Order,
therefore it became necessary for the Inspector to make inquiry. They would
hear what occurred from the evidence. To assist the Bench he would like to read
a circular letter sent out by him, as follows: Shops Act, 1912. I enclose copy
of an Order which has been made extending the provisions of Section 4 of the
Shops Act, 1912, to certain shops. This Order is now in force, and must be
complied with by the occupiers of the classes of shops therein referred to. With
respect to the sale of tobacco, etc., at places licensed for the sale of
intoxicating liquors and other refreshment places, the Home Secretary has made
the following statement, and it is the intention of the Town Council to act in
accordance with such statement.
Copy statement: “I am to add, for the Council`s
information, that the Secretary of State is advised that licensed houses in
which a retail trade in tobacco is regularly carried on are subject to the
provisions of the Order, but that the Order would not apply to the occasional
sale of tobacco in hotels and inns in connection with meals, e.g. the supply of
customers with cigars and cigarettes after dinner.” A copy of that letter was
sent to the defendant.
Mr. Kidson then gave evidence of the appointment of Mr.
J. Pearson, the Sanitory Inspector, as Inspector under the Shops Act, 1912, for
the purpose of enforcing the provisions of the Act.
Harold Summerfield, assistant to the Sanitory
Inspector, said he visited the Royal Standard public house at 6.37 on the 18th
February, which was a Wednesday, and the half holiday. He entered the bottle
and jug department, and asked the assistant behind the bar for an ounce of shag
tobacco. The man replied “It is Wednesday afternoon. I cannot serve you”. He
(witness) replied “Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The man then called
him back again, and said he would oblige him that time, and that he must not
tell anyone, or he would get him into trouble. The man served him with an ounce
of shag tobacco, and he (witness) paid 4d. for it. He did not see any notice
whatever in the bar with reference to the Shops Act.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holme, witness said the Royal
Standard was an ordinary public house. He did not think they pushed the sale of
tobacco more than any ordinary public house did. There was no separate counter
for the sale of tobacco, So far as he knew it was a casual sale of tobacco
carried on at the house.
Mr. Holme, at this stage, asked for the register which
had to be kept under the Shops Act, and when it was produced, he requested him
to say whether the Royal Standard was to be found in the register.
Mr. Kidson said he admitted the Royal Standard was not
entered in it. He believed there were a few public houses mentioned in it, but
only some of the large ones.
Mr. Holme asked the witness if he knew whether the
notice calling upon the defendant to say which was his principal trade had been
served upon him.
Mr. Kidson argued that that was not a proper question
to put. The point was, it seemed to him, had that Order and the Act authorising
the Order been contravened?
Mr. Holme agreed to leave the matter until later. He
then addressed the Magistrates on behalf of the defence, and in the course of
his remarks he said that was a very important case. The matter was fairly
simple. They had before them the words of the Act and the Order, which they had
to construe. There were two possible ways of construing the words. Conceivably,
they might say they meant they forbade in the district at the time in question
the sale of tobacco without any exception whatever. If they were construed in
that way, it would have a far reaching effect, not only on the public houses,
but all the fine hotels in the district, including the Grand, the Pavilion, and
the Metropole. They would not be able to call for a cigar or cigarette after
dinner in that case. If the Order was really carried out, they would not be
able to have any game or vegetable for dinner at the Metropole or any other
hotel. That would be absurd, and the prosecution would agree that would be
absurd. The circular of the Home Secretary was, he contended, an admission that
some exception was to be allowed to that general rule. By that circular a
breach was made in the walls of the Act. They could not apply those words
without some exception. The only exception the Home Secretary had allowed was
if a cigar or cigarette was sold in connection with a meal. Not once in the
regulations was the word “meal” used, and, therefore, that was a pure invention
of the Home Secretary. It would be a difficult problem to say what a meal was.
He suggested that the word “meal” could not be read into the Act. He agreed the
circular was founded on common sense. They had to look deeper than that for a
principle.
At this stage Mr. Holmes read several answers to
questions put to the Home Secretary in the House of Commons, and arguing on
those answers he said the Magistrates really had to consider in that case
whether that was a casual sale or was a regular trade or business carried on at
the Royal Standard. The true principle they had to apply was whether that sale
was casual and ancillary to what was going on in the establishment, or was it a
sale in connection with the trade that was going on in the house. The Royal
Standard had not developed into a miniature shop for the sale of tobacco. He
was going to prove by the defendant that he had never sold any tobacco or
cigarettes to a person except that it was a casual sale, and, therefore, it did
not come within the words of the Act. It was an abuse of language to call the
Royal Standard a shop for the sale of tobacco. That was his submission on the
main point.
Mr. Kidson had mentioned Section 4 of the Act, which
provided for the half holiday closing. Then Section 6 exempted licensed
victuallers unless they were brought in by a special Order. Before an exempted
trade could be included, certain formalities had to be gone through. By a
sub-section and the regulations there had to be a two thirds majority of the
shops before the trade could be brought in. A register was also to be prepared.
Mr. Kidson said it was not the Magistrates` duty to go
into anything prior to the making of the Order.
Mr. Holme said he was not going to say the order was
bad, but he wanted to try to find out whether the prosecution meant to bring in
his client. Did the Order include his client? If he could show that the
prosecution, when they made the Order, had no intention of brining in his
client, surely that was relevant to the matter.
A good deal of argument ensued on this point, and Mr.
Holmes said he could not imagine anything more unfair than that an Order should
be made without consulting all the people whom it could affect.
The Magistrates` Clerk eventually said that Mr. Holme
might raise the point should the question of inflicting a penalty arise.
Mr. Holme said he admitted for the sake of argument the
Order was good, nevertheless he did ask the Bench to take into consideration
the circumstances under which it was made. Proceeding, he said no voting paper
was sent to his client. He admitted that a notice was published asking
tradesmen to go to the Town Clerk`s office to see if they were on the register.
He wished to point out there was a provision in the Act by which they might
have got out of that dilemma. It was that sub-section which dealt with the case
of a mixed trade. He submitted, however, that that was not a mixed trade, but
that a publican`s business was one trade, catering for the public. In the case
of a mixed trade the Council had to inquire from the occupier which he
considered to be his principal trade.
Defendant, giving evidence, said he had not a separate
counter for the sale of tobacco, and he made no special effort to push tobacco.
If tobacco was sold to the Inspector in that case, it was the one solitary
exception that he had sold tobacco to a man who had not purchased something
else. His tobacco trade was about 5 percent of his trade. He had had no notice
served on him requiring him to say what he considered to be his principal
trade, and no voting paper was sent to him.
The Magistrates` Clerk held Mr. Holme was not entitled
to put questions on that point.
Mr. Summerfield said he did not sign any application
for the Order to be made.
Cross-examined, he said he would not call his tobacco
trade his principal trade.
Mr. Kidson: Therefore you would not be entitled to have
your name entered on the register.
Mr. A. Hart gave evidence as to going to the Town
Clerk`s office and examining the register. He could not find the name of the
Royal Standard entered in it, nor any other licensed house.
The case of Charles Henry Barker, the licensee of the
Raglan, was next dealt with. Mr. Rutley Mowll defended, and pleaded Not Guilty.
Mr. Kidson put in the Order made by the Home Secretary,
and produced the appointment of the Inspector of Nuisances as the Inspector. In
reply to Mr. Mowll, he said Mr. Barker`s name was not entered in the register.
The Council did not ascertain by vote whether the defendant or other licensed
victuallers wished to come under the Act. The petition asking for the Order was
received from the tobacconists.
Harry Summerfield said he visited the defendant`s
premises at 6.30 p.m. on Wednesday, February 18th, and asked for a
2d. cigar. He was served with it, and paid 2d. for it.
Cross-examined, witness said he did not ask for any
refreshment at the same time.
Mr. Mowll addressed the Magistrates at length on the
matter. He urged that his client had committed no offence, as it was an
occasional, casual sale. He pointed out also that bread and cheese, or even a
biscuit, would be regarded as a meal, and he held that a man would be able to
purchase a cigar or cigarette. According to the Home Secretary, that was a
casual and occasional sale, and not within the meaning of the Act. It would be
very hard indeed to apply the Order to such a case as that. In his opinion it
was a condition precedent to the making of that Order that the Town Council
should first have been satisfied that the occupiers of at least two thirds of
the shops of that class should approve of the Order. If his client was one of
that class to be prosecuted, then he was also one of the class who had the
right to vote for the Order. In other words, the Corporation could not fasten
them with the responsibility and at the same time deny to them the privileges
of the section. He contended that there was no provision in the Act which said
that the Order for the weekly half holiday should have the operation of the Act
of Parliament. It was only by closing order that might have the effect of an
Act; the weekly half holiday Order did not have that effect, for they had to be
made, and could be revoked. In conclusion, he suggested that instead of coming
to a decision that day, they should postpone that matter for a short time, and
give the licensed victuallers the opportunity of approaching the Corporation
and putting before them their views, and requesting that they might be pleased
to revoke the Order. He thought the Council would agree to the revocation of
the Order, for it would be saving the trouble of deciding a point of law. They
must not forget that a conviction was a serious objection to a licensee. It
seemed to him the best course would be to let the licensed victuallers approach
the Corporation.
Mr. Kidson said if there was an adjournment there ought
to be an undertaking given that there would be no sales in the meantime. There
was no desire on the part of the Council to be unfair with the licensed
victuallers. If the latter did approach them, he was certain they would
consider the matter.
Mr. Holme said for his client he would prefer to have a
definite decision.
The Bench retired, and on their return the Chairman
said the Bench were unanimously satisfied that the case had been proved, but
inasmuch as the parties had suggested a re-consideration by the Council of the
position of licensed victuallers under the Act, they refrained from imposing a
penalty, and they dismissed the cases against Mr. Summerfield and Mr. Barker,
on payment of the costs, 8/6.
Mr. Holme asked the Clerk if he would state a case.
The Clerk said there was no conviction.
Mr. Holme said that was very unfortunate. Nothing could
be more inconvenient for his client, for they were no nearer getting an
authoritative decision from the High Court.
The Clerk said if there had been a conviction he would
not have stated a case. He would have left it to the defendants to apply for a
mandamus.
Summonses against Mr. E.W. James, another licensed
victualler, and Mrs. Julia Wilson, a shopkeeper, were withdrawn.
Folkestone
Herald 7-3-1914
Local News
The question of the right of publicans to sell tobacco
on Wednesday afternoon (early closing day), was discussed at the Folkestone
Police Court on Tuesday, four licence holders having been summoned for a breach
of the Shops Act by selling tobacco on the 18th February after 1
p.m.
The Magistrates were Colonel R.J. Fynmore, Mr. G. Boyd
and J.J. Giles, and Colonel G.P. Owen.
The case against John Wm. Summerfield, of the Royal
Standard, for selling tobacco at 6.30 p.m. on the 18th February was
first heard. The Town Clerk (Mr. A.F. Kidson) prosecuted, and Mr. Randle F.
Holme appeared for the defendant.
The Town Clerk said this was the first summons that had
come before them under that particular Act, and he thought perhaps he should
refer them to the various sections bearing upon the question. Mr. Kidson then
went into many details concerning various sections of the Act. He mentioned
that tobacconists were under one section exempt from the Act, but added that
another section provided for this particular matter, and the local authority
had power, if satisfied that they had at least two thirds majority of
tobacconists to include them. The Council did make an Order under that
provision with regard to tobacconists, which was confirmed by the Home
Secretary. The Order provided “That the provisions of Section 4 of the Act,
with respect to the closing of shops for the serving of customers in the
afternoon of one weekday in every week, are hereby extended to the
undermentioned shops in the urban district of Folkestone, to all shops except
those in the Morehall district, and in High Street, Sandgate, wherein is
carried on the trade or business of the sale of tobacco or smokers`
requisites”. That Order was confirmed by the Home Secretary. In referring to
many legal points in the case, Mr. Kidson alluded to Section 6, sub-section 3,
which provided “As soon as the Secretary of State has confirmed any Order, the
Order will become final and have the effect of an Act of Parliament”. A
complaint was received that licensed victuallers were infringing this Order. Therefore
it became necessary to make inquiry. Inquiry was made, and the facts in this
case were very simple, and he presumed could not be disputed. He thought it was
hardly necessary to draw their attention to the fact that the Order provided
that the day of the half holiday should be Wednesday for all the shops. They
knew that this was a new Act of Parliament, and the Order was newer still. The
Magistrates might like to know what steps had been taken to make known Orders
and Acts of Parliament of the kind. If it would be of any assistance, he would
explain what had been done.
The Chairman expressed the wish of the Bench to hear
the particulars.
The Town Clerk then produced a circular (which, he
said, was sent out to the defendant amongst others), in which he stated that he
enclosed a copy of the Order which had been made extending the provisions of
section 4 of the Shops Act, 1912, to certain shops, including tobacconists.
Next Mr. Kidson touched upon a statement made by Mr. McKenna, in which he said
he was to add, for the Council`s information, that the Secretary of State was
advised that licensed houses in which the retail trade of tobacco was regularly
carried on, were subject to the provisions of the Order, but did not apply to
the casual sale of tobacco at hotels and inns in connection with meals and the
supply of customers with cigars and cigarettes after dinner.
Mr. Holme pointed out that the opinion of the Home
Secretary was not binding on the Bench.
The Town Clerk said it was an intimation of the view he
would like the authorities to take.
Mr. Holme: It is an admission by the prosecution.
Continuing, Mr. Kidson said that Mr. Pearson was
appointed the Inspector under the Act for the purpose of enforcing the
provisions of the Act.
Harold Summerfield, an assistant in the Sanitary
Inspector`s office, stated that he visited the Royal Standard, Canterbury Road,
on the 18th February, a Wednesday, at 6.37 p.m. He entered the
premises by the door at the bottom of Bridge Street, and asked the assistant
for an ounce of shag tobacco. There was a small pigeon hole where customers
were served. The assistant refused to serve him at first, saying it was
Wednesday afternoon. Witness said “Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The
assistant then called him back, and this time served him, saying “I will oblige
you this time,, but you must not tell anyone, or we shall get into trouble”.
The assistant then served him, and witness paid him 4d. Witness saw no notice
in reference to the Shops Act.
Mr. Holme said there was no dispute as to the facts.
However, the case was not an important case. Mr. Kidson said it was the first
case in the Borough; he (Mr. Holme) believed it was the first case anywhere.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holme, witness stated that the
Royal Standard was an ordinary public house, and he did not know that it made
any special effort to push the sale of tobacco any more than other public
houses.
Mr. Holme pointed out that in hotels there were
cabinets and counters for the sale of tobacco, and, turning to witness, asked
“There was nothing of the kind here. Was there, in fact, any tobacco on the
bars?”
Witness: I saw none.
Was anyone else buying tobacco when you were there? –
Not in that department.
Did you see anyone else buy tobacco? – No.
Had you been in the house before? – No.
As far as your knowledge goes, it was the only case of
an ounce of tobacco being sold? – Yes.
So far as you know, it was merely a casual sale? – Yes.
Mr. Holme pointed out that, under the Act, a register
was to be kept, and in the register there were set out the different classes of
shops affected. He asked witness to find the Royal Standard in the register.
Mr. Kidson said the Royal Standard was not in the
register.
Mr. Holme asked if any public house was in the
register.
Mr. Kidson: There are a few; some of the large ones.
Mr. Holme remarked that for some perfectly unexplained
reason the Royal Standard was not in. No doubt there was a very good reason.
Continuing, he asked witness if he could tell him if there was a provision
under the Act by which a local authority might serve a notice on any shop
occupier requiring him to say which he considered his principal trade, and
could the witness tell him if that notice was served on the occupier of the
Royal Standard?
Mr. Kidson submitted that it was not a proper question.
It did not matter what notice was served. That was not the question for their
consideration at all. The point was whether the Order was contravened.
Mr. Holme said the matter to be considered was fairly
simple. They had the words of the Act and the Order, which they had to
construe. It might fairly be said that the question was “That in the district
and at the time in question no shop might be kept open for the sale of
tobacco”. Those were the words they had to construe. There were two possible
ways of construing those words. They might say that in the district and at the
time in question it forbade the sale of tobacco without any exception
whatsoever. That was one way of construing them, but he pointed out how ver
far-reaching would be their decision if that course was adopted. It would
affect all public houses and all hotels in the district. It would include the
Metropole and the Grand. They would not be able to call for a cigar or
cigarette, not even after dinner. And it went even further than that. Mr.
Kidson did not read the Order with regard to prohibiting shops being open for
the sale of poultry, game, of perishable articles, fruit, vegetables and
flowers. Under the Act it enabled him to include confectionery. If the Order
applied at the Metropole, they would be able to sell no game; they would have
no game at dinner on Wednesday afternoons, no vegetables, no fruit, no dessert.
If they construed the words strictly, that was the result, and it would be absurd.
He need not remind them that they had to construe the Act, and not the Home
Secretary`s circular. The circular was to the effect that some exception had to
be made, and once they got inside and allowed an exception this case came
within the exception and not within the rule. He (Mr. Holme) knew the Act from
beginning to end, and not in one place did the word “meal” occur. It was a pure
invention of the Home Secretary. What was a meal? There was not only the
difficulty of the definition of the word “meal”, but there was also the
question of how long after could a man be served. Some people smoked
immediately, some hours afterwards. He agreed that the circular was founded on
common sense, but he argued that Mr. McKenna meant that “a meal” was to be
simply alluded to as an example, as a sort of exception, and they had to look
deeper for the principle. He read Mr. McKenna`s answer in the House of Commons,
in which Mr. McKenna said he did not think the casual sales of cigars or
cigarettes in hotels and restaurants for consumption on the premises, as for
example, after dinner, or other meal, would amount to the carrying on of a
retail trade so as to prevent such sales on the day of the half-holiday.
Therefore he argued they had to consider, was it a casual and ancillary sale,
or was it really the sale of tobacco or a regular trade going on in the same
house? He quoted an extract from a paper called “Tobacco”, in which it was
stated “Licensed victuallers are developing into miniature tobacco shops”. Had
the Royal Standard developed into that? There was no counter, no separate place
where cigars or tobacco were exposed for sale. Mr. Holme next referred to the
steps necessary to be taken in the case of those wishing to be brought under
the Order. A voting paper was to be sent out to each one, and a register of all
the different shops affected was started. When one found that the Royal
Standard was not in the register one wondered why they were brought to the
Court.
Mr. Kidson asked the decision of the Magistrates as to
the power to go into anything prior to the making of the Order. He suggested it
was not within their power to do so.
After a considerable amount of legal argument Mr. Holme
said he imagined nothing was more unfair than that the Order should have been made
without the licensed victuallers being consulted. The licensed victuallers were
not consulted, and he maintained that they were not in the Order at all. The
scheme of the Act said that before they made an Order they must consult them in
one of two ways. After describing the mode of procedure, he said no licensed
victualler, so far as he knew, had received a voting paper. And why? Because he
was not on the register. The alternative plan was to have an application signed
by two thirds of the people affected. In this case no application was signed by
the licensed victuallers, and certainly not by the Royal Standard. Mr. Holme
pointed out a section dealing with mixed trades, but held that in this case it
was not a mixed trade. It was in the power of the local authority to serve a
notice on a man asking him which was his principal trade. Could anyone call an
ordinary public house a shop for the sale of tobacco? It might as well be
argued that if he went into a public house for a box of matches to light a lamp
that it was a shop for the sale of matches.
Mr. Summerfield, the defendant, stated that he was the
licensee of the Royal Standard. There was no separate counter for tobacco. He
made no special effort to push the sale of tobacco. The sale to the witness of
the prosecution was a solitary exception. He had sold tobacco to men who had
been having something else at the same time. It was a casual sale. The
proportion that tobacco bore to the rest of his trade was about 5 percent. No
notice was served upon him as to what he considered to be his principal trade.
A paper was not sent to him asking whether he wished the Order to be put into
force.
The Magistrates` Clerk said Mr. Holme was not entitled
to put these questions.
Mr. Holme argued that if the case was going to the High
Court they were material facts that the High Court should know.
Mr. Summerfield, continuing, said no notice or voting
paper was served on him, and he did not send in any application for the Order
to be made. He did not approve of the Order. He did not think any licensed
victualler had sent in an application, and they did not approve of it.
In answer to the Town Clerk, Mr. Summerfield said he
considered 5 percent of his trade a very small, and not a substantial part, of
his trade.
Mr. Kidson: Therefore you would not have been entitled
to vote.
Mr. Holme: That is a question of law.
Mr. Kidson argued that no injustice had been suffered
by the licensed holders, because they were not entitled to vote, even if they
had received notices.
Mr. Holme put another construction upon the case, to
the effect that the whole sub-section depended on the notice being served
first. He did not think Mr. Kidson had any application where any such notice
was served.
Mr. Kidson said his point was that Mr. Summerfield had
suffered no injustice, though he had not served him with the notice referred to
under the sub-section. He quite agreed that the notice must be served, and Mr.
Holme objected that it was not served, but even if the notice had been served
Mr. Summerfield would not have been entitled to a vote.
Mr. Holme characterised the method as very
extraordinary, and contended that the Corporation were absolutely outside their
powers. They were bound to give these people a vote before they made the Order.
Mr. A.J. Hart, of the Bouverie Arms, said he had
inspected the register and he did not fine the Royal Standard there, nor any
other licensed victualler; There were no licensed victuallers in it at all.
Tobacconists were in the register.
The Magistrates` Clerk: Was there any hotel proprietor?
Mr. Hart: I did not notice any.
Mr. Holme said that in hotels they had real counters,
where they carried on the sale of tobacco, but in an ordinary public house they
had nothing of the kind. It was for the Magistrates to say whether the Royal
Standard was selling tobacco as a trade in itself, or whether the trade was
merely casual or ancillary. The answer was obvious. There was no special trade.
They were casual sales, and not a trade under the circumstances. If they did
hold that licensed victuallers were within the scope of the Act, then the local
authorities were in a tight dilemma in making the Order without consulting
them.
Mr. Kidson submitted that Mr. Holme was wrong in his
contentions. However, if he (Mr. Kidson) was wrong, the sooner it was put right
the better for everyone concerned. It was almost impossible to get everyone
within a class of trade who was entitled to vote to do so, but they did their
best. They advertised according to the Act of Parliament, and they called
attention to the Act that if anyone whose name was not in the register thought
he should be on, he could find out by coming to the office, by making proper
application for the same, and if in the opinion of the local authority he was
entitled his name would be put on the register. They advertised in the local
papers, and were only too wishful to get everyone on the register who felt he
was entitled to be on. There was no intention to keep anyone off.
Mr. Holme suggested that another case should be heard
before his case was decided, and this case was adopted.
Charles Henry Barker was summoned for a similar offence
on the same day.
Mr. Rutley Mowll, who appeared for the defence, asked
Mr. Kidson various questions, which were replied to under protest.
The Town Clerk said Mr. Mowll`s client was not on the
register, and he did not ascertain by vote whether his client and other
licensed victuallers wished to come under the Act. They were not included when
ascertaining whether they got a majority of the shopkeepers of the class for
the purpose of the Order.
Mr. Mowll: So they were entirely excluded.
Mr. Kidson pointed out that a bill was published in
prominent parts of the town inviting those interested to see that their names
were on the register.
Mr. Mowll asked whether the licensed victuallers were
taken into consideration in arriving at whether they had a two thirds majority
in favour of applying section 4 to the tobacconists` trade.
Mr. Kidson: No, because they were not on the register,
and did not apply to be put on the register.
Mr. Summerfield, assistant in the Sanitary Inspector`s
office, stated that on the 18th February, at 6.30 p.m., he went into
the public bar of the Raglan Hotel. He asked Mr. Barker for a twopenny cigar,
and he was served with it. He saw no notice with regard to the Shops Act in the
bar.
Mr. Mowll asked witness if he treated himself to a
little refreshment at the same time.
Mr. Summerfield replied that he had nothing to drink.
There were other customers there. He did not hear anyone else ask for a cigar
while he was there. There were two others in the bar at the time. He simply
went in, bought his cigar, and walked out.
Mr. Mowll: How did you like your cigar? – I have not
tried one. (Laughter)
Mr. Mowll said he did not know whether it was necessary
whether it was necessary to call evidence with regard to the lad having a
drink, but he did not dispute the sale of the cigar. He proceeded to ask the
Bench to note how the matter worked out according to the Home Secretary`s
dictum, which, of course, was not a law. The Home Secretary agreed that a
person going to the Metropole Hotel and having lunch was entitled to have a
cigar. Strictly speaking, if the Order was properly enforced, he was not
entitled to have it at all, but it was a casual sale, and therefore the Home
Secretary said “It was a casual sale of a cigar”. If it was casual, why not in
this case? This young man came into the bar and had a drink. Should not that
sale be just as casual as the sale of a cigar in the Metropole, and therefore
outside the Act? He saw no reason why one was outside the Act and the other
within. A person who drove up to the Metropole and had his cigar after lunch
committed no offence. The poor were just as much entitled to a cigar as the rich.
The real difficulty arose because of the rather peculiar operation of those
Orders. It was a casual sale, and he argued that a meal was not necessary to
make it casual. If it was, look how absurd it would be? One man had a five
course meal, one had a one course meal of biscuit and cheese, and perhaps
another would not like the cheese, and would have a biscuit, or a glass of his
clients` famous stout (laughter), or Wincarnis, or anything else. It would be
hard indeed to apply such an Order to such a case as this. He said it was a
condition precedent to the making of this Order that the Town Council should
first be satisfied that the occupiers of two thirds of the shops of the class
approved of the Order. They excluded the licensed victuallers in arriving at a
decision. His point was this; that they could not have it both ways. If they
were one of the classes to be prosecuted, then they were one of the classes who
had the right to vote. The Corporation could not fasten them with the
responsibility and at the same time deny them the privileges of the section.
The Town Council, obviously motivated by the best motives – no-one questioned
that – had not, in fact, taken reasonable steps to be satisfied that they had a
two thirds majority, or if they had done so, then obviously they never intended
to include public houses, because they had not been given an opportunity of
having voted. If they included licensed victuallers, they had not a two thirds
majority of the trade. They had been entirely ignored. They could not ignore
people whom they held were responsible under the Act. Either they were
responsible under the Act, or they were not responsible, in which case they
were excluded and had no vote. In conclusion, he pointed out that the licensed
victuallers were conducting a trade in which they were bound to keep open; they
were under an obligation to the brewers to do so, and there was certainly no
attempt on the part of the Corporation as a local authority to stop the sale of
intoxicating liquors on the weekly half-holiday. It was almost impossible, if
they worked it out, to say that a man was to sell behind the counter beer and
whisky, lemonade and ginger beer, and could not sell at the same time a
cigarette, or, as in his case, a cigar. His (Mr. Mowll`s) suggestion was this,
and he did it on his own responsibility. That was a new Act. He could not help
thinking that the local authority, when they made this Order, were under a
misapprehension. Either they did not appreciate what the Order really was going
to mean, or did not realise that licensed victuallers should be on the register
and given an opportunity to vote. His suggestion was that instead of coming to
a decision that day in deciding to convict or otherwise, they should postpone
the matter for a short time, say three months, and give the licensed
victuallers an opportunity of approaching the Corporation and requesting that
they might be pleased to revoke the Order which they had made. He alluded to
the powers to revoke the Order, and said he thought that if the matter was put
before the Corporation in the light he had suggested they would agree to revoke
the Order, and so they would be saved the necessity of coming to a decision on
rather a difficult point of law. Then there remained the question of whether they
convicted or not. A conviction was always an objection to a licensed
victualler, and he maintained that it would be the best course to let the
licensed victuallers approach the Corporation to say whether this Order, which
was really rather absurd, could not be revoked, and thereby put an end to the
whole thing.
Mr. Kidson, in reply, said that even had the licensed
victuallers had notices sent, they would not have been entitled to vote.
Continuing, he said that if the matter was sent to the Council he raised no
objection. He would only say this, that if an adjournment were made, there
should be no sales in the meantime. There was no desire on the part of the
Corporation to be unfair to the licensed victuallers.
Mr. Holme said he would prefer that they should have a
decision that day.
After the Magistrates had returned from a lengthy
consideration of the matter, Col. Fynmore said the Bench were unanimously
satisfied that the case was proved, but inasmuch as the parties suggested a
reconsideration by the Council of the position of the licensed victuallers
under the Act, they refrained from imposing a penalty, and dismissed both cases
on payment of the costs (8s. 6d. in each case).
Mr. Holme said he begged to state a special case.
The Magistrates` Clerk pointed out that there was no
conviction.
Mr. Holme expressed the opinion that it was very
inconvenient. They would be no nearer getting an authoritative decision from
the High Court.
The summonses against Mrs. Julia Willson and Mr. Edward
Wm. James were withdrawn.
Folkestone
Express 7-11-1914
Wednesday, November 4th: Before J. Stainer,
G.I. Swoffer and R.J. Linton Esqs.
William Woodrow, a private in the Royal Fusiliers,
stationed at the Camp, was charged with stealing a pair of boots from outside
Mr. Vickery`s shop the previous evening.
Alfred Edward May, manager for Mr. J. Vickery, boot
dealer, of 27, Tontine Street, said the pair of boots (produced) were hung
outside the front of the shop about nine o`clock. He saw them safe at five
o`clock in the afternoon. At eight o`clock, when they were closing, he missed
them. The boots were hung on a hook with the string twisted round three or four
times.
Harry Monk said he was potman at the True Briton,
Harbour Street. The previous evening, between eight and half past eight, the
prisoner came into the bar with a pair of boots similar to those produced. He
was carrying the boots openly in his hand, and offered them for sale to people
in the bar. He asked 3/- for them at first, then 2/6 and 1/6. No-one would buy
them, and the prisoner then went out, taking the boots with him.
P.C. Johnson said he was in Beach Street the previous
evening about 8.30, when he saw the prisoner in the street, carrying the pair
of boots produced under his arm. He stopped him and asked him where he had got
the boots, and he replied “I bought them off a man for 2/- down the street”. He
(witness) told him he was not satisfied with his statement, and should detain
him for inquiries. He brought Woodrow to the police station, where he charged
him with stealing the boots from some person unknown. He made no reply. That
morning he made inquiries, and returned to the police station, and charged him
with that offence. Prisoner replied “I bought them for 2/- off a civilian whom
I did not know”. Prisoner, on Tuesday evening, was under the influence of
drink, but was not drunk.
Prisoner elected to be tried by the Magistrates, and
pleaded Not Guilty. He said he was very sorry to say that as he was passing
through the street a man came up to him and asked him if he could help him. He
(prisoner) was just going into a public house when the man, who appeared to be
a very hard-working man, stopped him. He told him he was out of work. The man
seemed very respectable, and he thought he was genuine. He told him he would
help him, and asked him what he required done for him. The man told him he had
a pair of boots to sell, as he wanted to get some food for his wife and
children. He told the man he would go into the bar and try to sell them. He
could not manage to sell them, so he went outside and told the man that he had
done his best. The man begged so hard, and said his wife was starving, so he
gave him 2/- for the boots. The man shook hands with him, and wished him good
luck.
The constable, in reply to the Clerk, said Woodrow,
when brought to the police station, had only coppers in his possession.
An officer from the regiment said the prisoner had a
good character. He had been in the Army two or three months. There was nothing
on his defaulter`s sheet.
The Chairman said the prisoner had had a very narrow
shave of a conviction. He would be bound over in the sum of £5 to be of good
behaviour, and to come up for judgement, if called upon, within six months. The
Magistrates warned him as to his future conduct.
Folkestone
Herald 7-11-1914
Wednesday, November 4th: Before Mr. J.
Stainer, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, and Mr. R.J. Linton.
William Woodrow, a soldier in the New Army, was charged
with stealing a pair of boots, the property of Mr. Jesse Vickery, of 27,
Tontine Street.
Albert Edward May, manager to the prosecutor, said he
missed the boots from the doorway of the shop at 8 p.m. on Tuesday. Their
selling value was 8s. 11d. They were on a hook in the doorway, and twisted
round several times.
Harry Monk, a potman at the True Briton Inn, said he
was in the bar between 8 and 8.30 p.m., when prisoner came in with a pair of
boots similar to those produced. He was carrying them openly. He offered them
for sale in the bar, asking 3s., then 2s. 6d., and then 1s. 6d. for them, but
no-one would buy them, so he left the house with them.
P.C. Johnson said he saw the prisoner in Beach Street
going in the direction of the Fishmarket, carrying a pair of boots under his
arm. Witness stopped him and said “Where did you get those boots from?” He
replied “I bought them of a man for 2s. down the street”. Witness took him to
the police station. Next morning he made inquiries and charged him. Accused
replied “I bought the boots for 2s. from a civilian whom I do not know”.
Prisoner, when arrested, was under the influence of drink, but was not drunk.
Prisoner pleaded Not Guilty, and said he was very sorry
that it had happened. A man came to him the previous night, just as he was
going into the True Briton Inn to get a drink, and asked him to purchase a pair
of boots which he was carrying, as he said he wanted to get some food, and he
had no money. He had pity on him, and took the boots into the inn and tried to
sell them, but was not able to. He then went back to the man and told him he
was unable to sell them. The man begged him hard to buy them, saying he had a
wife and children to keep and he wanted to get them food. He believed his
story, and although he did not want them, he bought the boots for 2s.
P.C. Johnson (re-called) said prisoner had only a few
coppers in his possession when he was arrested.
An officer said prisoner had been in the Army some 3
months, and had nothing on his default sheet. He was paid on Friday.
The Chairman said prisoner had had a narrow escape. He
would be bound over in the sum of £5 to be of good behaviour for six months.
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