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General Licensing Notes 1925 - 1929



Folkestone Express 14-2-1925

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 11th: Before Alderman Wood, Dr. Tyson, Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, A. Stace and E.T. Morrison, Col. Owen, Alderman Pepper, Miss Hunt, the Rev. Epworth Thompson, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Mr. W. Hollands, Mr. W.R. Boughton and Col. Broome-Giles.

The Chief Constable (Mr. Beesley) read his annual report as follows: I have the honour to submit my annual report relating to the administration of the Licensing Laws within this Borough for the year 1924.

Licensed Premises: There are within the Borough 112 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor, the number being made up as follows; Full licences 69; Beer on 7; Beer off 6; Beer and Spirit Retainers 13; Grocers, etc. off 6; Confectioners Wine on 3; Chemists Wine off 6; Cider and sweets off 1; a total of 112 (79 on and 33 off). This shows a reduction of two full licences as compared with the number of full licences in 1923, the reduction being brought about by the closing of the Belle Vue, St. John`s Street, and the Oddfellows, Dover Street, by the Justices and Compensation Authorities. In addition to the above, the Richmond Tavern, Richmond Street, was considered by you and the licence renewed at the adjourned annual licensing meeting.

Licences refused since 1905: Since the year 1905 the renewal of 23 licences have been refused by the Compensation Authorities, 19 ale houses and 4 beer houses.

Ale House Licences: Of the ale house licences two are six day licences.

Licences Transferred: Nine of the licences have been transferred during the year.

Occasional Licence: One occasional licence was issued to a licence holder to sell liquor at the Hospital Fete on the Plain.

Extension of Licensing Hours: 213 extensions have been granted to licence holders when dinners, etc., were being held on their premises. In no case has any abuse of the privileges been reported.

Conviction against Licensees, etc.: During the year four licensees and one servant of a licensee were proceeded against for breaches of the intoxicating liquor laws, viz.; (1) 15-2-24, John Charles Lee, Prince of Wales P.H., for permitting intoxicating liquor to be consumed on his licensed premises during non-permitted hours, fined £2. (2) 15-2-24, John Charles Lee, Prince of Wales P.H., for selling intoxicating liquor on credit for consumption on his licensed premises, dismissed. (3) 15-2-24, Max Rosenz, Esplanade Hotel, for permitting intoxicating liquor to be consumed on his licensed premises during non-permitted hours, fined £10. (4) 2-9-24, Hugh McKay, Jubilee P.H., for supplying intoxicating liquor on his premises during non-permitted hours, fined £7 10s. (5) 2-12-24, William Henry Collar, Red Cow P.H., for distributing intoxicating liquor without recording particulars of the same in a day book, discharged on payment of costs. (6) 2-12-24, Frederick Wickenden (servant of Collar), for distributing intoxicating liquor without a delivery note, discharged on payment of costs.

Five persons were convicted for consuming intoxicating liquor on licensed premises during non-permitted hours. Two persons were dismissed on payment of costs for a similar offence, and proceedings were withdrawn against two persons for obtaining intoxicating liquor on licensed premises during non-permitted hours.

Visits to Licensed Premises by Police: All licensed premises have been periodically visited at intervals by my officers during the year to see that the same were being conducted in a satisfactory manner, and I am pleased to report that with few exceptions no adverse reports have been submitted to me.

Drunkenness: During the year ended 31st December, 1924, twenty three persons (twenty males and three females) were proceeded against for drunkenness, of whom thirteen were convicted and ten discharged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded against, eight were residents of the Borough, two soldiers, six of no abode, and seven non-residents. This is a decrease of three as compared with the number proceeded against in the previous year when twenty six persons (twenty one males and five females) were proceeded against, of whom sixteen were convicted and ten discharged.

Permitted Hours: The permitted hours as allowed by the Licensing Act of 1921 have been fixed by the Licensing Justices for the Borough as under; On weekdays from 10.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m., and from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.; on Sundays 12 noon to 2 p.m. and 7 to 10 p.m.

Clubs: Eleven clubs where intoxicating liquor is supplied are registered under the Act.

Hotels and Restaurants: Six hotels and one restaurant have authority under section 3 of the Licensing Act, 1921, to supply intoxicating liquor with meals for one hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, viz., Metrpole Hotel, Grand Hotel, Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel, Esplanade Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, Central Cafe.

Music and Dancing: Twenty eight licences for music and dancing have been granted or renewed under the provisions of Part 4 of the Public Health Act, Amendment Act, 1890.

Billiards: One public billiard hall has been licensed for billiards.

Supervision of these places has been well maintained by the police, and the premsise were reported as being well conducted.

In conclusion I should like to express my appreciation for the courtesy and fairness extended to me by the Bench during the past year, and for the able and ready assistance of your Clerk, Mr. John Andrew.

The Clerk said with regard to the convictions against the licensees of the Prince of Wales and the Jubilee, new tenants had gone into those houses. He understood there would be no question of holding back the licences of those particular premises.

The Chairman, in announcing that all the licences would be renewed, said the Magistrates considered the report was very satisfactory. There had only been 13 convictions for drunkenness. Bearing in mind that Folkestone was a pleasure resort, and they had a great increase in the population during the four summer months, they all thought that the report was of a satisfactory character, and also particularly when they saw that of the 13 cases only eight were residents. They thought that the trend of the times was that more discretion was shown by those who took intoxicating drink, and that it was more popular today to keep strictly sober than it used to be in years gone by. None of the licences would be referred for extinction.

Mr. Rutley Mowll applied on behalf of nine licensed houses for a music licence so that wireless concerts could be given on the premises. He said he did not think the Justices would object to wireless being installed on licensed premises, and he suggested the hours should be the permitted hours of opening in the evening all the year round.

The Magistrates retired to consider their decision, and the Chairman, on their return, said the Bench had decided to grant the application for every evening including Sunday, Christmas Day and Good Friday, from six to ten o`clock. The Bench were fully aware that that was to be an attraction to the licensed houses, but they were going to to try the experiment. The Bench would also welcome some alterations with regard to public houses, which should be public houses not in name, but in fact. They looked forward to the time when the public houses would be conducted in that country on similar lines to the Continental cafe. They also thought the time had come when money should be spent on those public houses in making them more comfortable and supplying refreshments of all kinds and not places for drinking. The public houses should be places where a man, and his wife, could take the whole of their family. He did not know what Continental people thought when they saw children having to stand outside public houses. The Magistrates were, however, not prepared to give way so as to allow attractions merely to get people to go to the public houses for what they got today. Certainly the people should have more facilities in such houses today than they had.

Local News

On Wednesday considerable interest was taken in the application before the Folkestone Licensing Justices of the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers` Association for an extension of the hours of opening of licensed premises from 10 to 10.30 p.m. during the months of June, July, August and September. The police court was crowded, a number of clergy and ministers being present.

The Clerk (Mr. J. Andrew) said he had received an application for a modification of the present Order fixing the closing hours. The application was that the present hours should be extended from 8 hours to 8½ hours. He had had a petition lodged with him from the British Women`s Temperance association against the application. It was signed by 3,715 women and 316 men. The petition stated that the signatories were residents over 21 years of age, and they respectfully urged the Justices not to extend the hours, as the home life of the children would be impaired; they knew of no dissatisfaction with the present arrangements, and they were proud of Folkestone and wished to remain so. There was another petition from the Radnor Park Congregational Church, which submitted that the present hours were entirely adequate to meet all reasonable needs. That was signed by 50 members of the Church. The Rev. Canon Tindall also wrote stating that Folkestone`s satisfactory record was sufficient proof that it was best to leave well alone. A letter from the Rev. H.T. Cooper, on behalf of the Folkestone and District Branch of the National Temperance Council, also objected to the application.

Dr. Carlile announced that he would speak on behalf of the clergy and ministers of the town, Mrs. Russell said she wished to support the petition of the British Women`s Temperance Association, and Mrs, Pollard said she wished to speak for the Women Citizens` Association.

Mr. Rutley Mowll, who appeared for the Licensed Victuallers` Association, said that application was not opposed by the police authorities. It was only a matter of half an hour. He asked that the public houses might be allowed to remain open until 10.30 for the purpose of selling intoxicating liquors. It did not seem a very unreasonable application. The varying habits of the people was recognised by the legislature as they would see in the Licensing Act of 1921 there was a special arrangement made for the Metropolis. Then again, they knew that townspeople and country people had different habits. The legislature had prescribed that wherever there was a case of special requirements in a district it was open for the Magistrates to extend the hours by half an hour, for which he was asking. Folkestone was one of the premier, if not the premier, south-east coast resorts, and he thought it was not an unfair argument to put before them, without suggesting for one moment that they were bound by the decisions of other Benches, to suggest to them whether there was any reason why Folkestone should be denied a privilege which already existed in such places as Margate, Westgate, Broadstairs, Birchington, Deal, Dover and Hythe. In all those places the extension of half an hour had been granted, some for the whole period of the year, and others for the four seasonal months. It was the four seasonal months for which he was asking – the time when Folkestone was extraordinarily busy with visitors, many of whom came from London, where they were accustomed to later hours.

The Chairman asked if the places mentioned by Mr. Mowll had the extension for the four seasonal months.

Mr. Mowll said he thought he was right in saying that Deal and Hythe were the only two that had it for the four months, but the others had it all the year round. At Hythe, when the application was originally made, it was opposed by the police, but so happily had it worked in practice that the privilege had been continued without any opposition by the police. He thought it was fair to ask the Magistrates, after the excellent report given by the Chief Constable, whether there was any reason to suppose that Folkestone licensed victuallers, and Folkestone visitors and townspeople could not be trusted as much as the people of the other places he had named. The application was supported by all the leading hotels in the town. He ventured to submit to them it was really the humbler section who were most affected, because a man who had plenty of money could afford to have a bottle of whisky in his house and so drink when he got home. The working class people did not have their whisky in that way. That was not a question of right or wrong. With regard to the opposition, he would say it was not all Christian workers who agreed with them. He submitted that Folkestone might be fairly trusted to carry out that concession properly, fairly and rightly, and if they found the concession was being abused, the remedy was in their own hands by refusing it another year.

The Clerk said it was understood that the application was for the seasonal months only.

The Rev. Dr. Carlile said he considered Mr. Mowll gave the case away entirely when he asked that Folkestone ratepayers and residents might be trusted. He ventured to submit that the Bench had heard nothing new in the way of argument. He would venture to suggest that some of the hotels were not included in that list to which Mr. Mowll had referred. He would like to point out that it was not an application on behalf of Prohibitionists or total abstainers to get rid of the drink. The petition presented to the Bench contained the signatures mostly of the poorer people. The large majority of them were not total abstainers. The Bench, he contended, would have appreciated the application more if the contention had been that it was for the working classes during the whole of the year, and for the people who lived there. The working class people when they were asked made their reply in that petition. The poorer people knew perfectly well the time of putting the children to bed must be controlled by the time the public houses closed in the immediate neighbourhood. They were not told that Eastbourne and Brighton, which corresponded very much to Folkestone, had 10 o`clock closing. A large number of other places had 10 o`clock closing. The Elham Bench decided on the same hour, and if they gave the extra half hour in Folkestone they would have the undesirables from the Elham Division there, and Folkestone would have a good chance of losing that splendid record, which they so properly appreciated. They had a record of sobriety which they, as residents, were anxious to maintain. He submitted they were more likely to retain that record by keeping the hours as they were at present. It was urged that the police did not oppose the application. It was hardly to be expected that the police would oppose it before it was made. He thought the Magistrates would generally agree that it was very undesirable to bring the police as opposing or supporting any application unless there was some exceptional ground for the police to take action. The whole of the clergy of all denominations were opposed to that extension.

In reply to the Chairman, Dr. Carlile said he thought they would have had a much larger opposition if they had known that the application was to be only for the four months instead of the whole of the year.

Mrs. Pollard, on behalf of the Women Citizens` Association, said they opposed the application on the ground that they considered it was in the best interests of the whole of the community that the public houses should close at 10 o`clock. The working men worked less hours, and businesses were closed much earlier than they did before the war.

The Rev. H.T. Cooper and Mrs. Russell also spoke briefly against the application.

The Magistrates retired, and on their return into Court the Chairman said the application had been fully considered by the Bench, and he had to inform Mr. Mowll that the application was not granted.
Folkestone Herald 14-2-1925

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 11th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Dr. W.J. Tyson, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G. Boyd, Mr. A. Stace, Mr. E.T. Morrison, Colonel G.P. Owen, Alderman A.E. Pepper, Mr. W.R. Boughton, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Mr. W. Hollands, the Rev. H. Epworth Thompson, Miss A.M. Hunt, and Colonel P. Broome-Giles.

The report of the Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) for the year 1924 was read. (For details see Folkestone Express).

The Chairman said the Magistrates considered the Chief Constable`s report for the past year to be of a very satisfactory nature, considering that there were one hundred and twelve premises in the borough licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor. There had only been a few cases where the law had not been adhered to, and some of these were of a technical character. The Bench thought it was very satisfactory, and they also thought it very satisfactory that there had only been thirteen convictions for drunkenness during the year, bearing in mind that Folkestone was a pleasure resort, and that their population was greatly increased during the four summer months. Out of the thirteen convicted for drunkenness only eight of the offenders were residents. They thought that it showed that the trend of the times was that more discretion was shown by those who took intoxicating liquor, and that it was more popular to keep strictly sober than it used to be in years gone by. He was instructed to say that the licensing Magistrates had considered the report very fully, and they had decided that the whole of the licences should be renewed. None of the licences would be referred for extinction. The whole of the licences which were in existence that day would be renewed. It had been the custom to put back licences where the house had been in trouble, but the two houses concerned had changed hands and therefore the licences of those two houses would be renewed with the others.

Plans for alterations at the Prince of Wales public house were approved.

The Clerk said he had received notice from the Secretary of the local Licensed Victuallers` Association that an application for a modification of the present Order affecting the closing hours would be made. The application shortly was that the present hours of sale might be extended from eight to eight and a half hours in the following year, or in the alternative for the four summer months of June, July, August and September. If the application was granted it would mean that the houses would close at 10.30 p.m. instead of 10 p.m. He had had several petitions lodged with him. The larger one was from the British Women`s Temperance Association. It was said to be signed by 3,715 women and 316 men. He took it that that was the approximate total. The petitioners stated that they, residents of Folkestone and over twenty one years of age, urged the Justices not to extend the present closing hour. They opposed the application on the grounds that (1), The home life of the children would be impaired by longer hours. (2) They knew of no dissatisfaction to the present hours remaining in force, and (3) They were proud of Folkestone and wished to remain so.

A petition signed by about fifty members of the Radnor Park Congregational Church, and submitted by the Rev. J.W. Inglis and Mr. F. Fletcher was next read. The petitioners considered that the present hours of opening were entirely adequate to meet all reasonable needs, and that it would be in the best interests of the town that the application should be refused. The town`s present record was an excellent one and they trusted that the town`s good name would not be jeopardised by extending the closing hours.

A letter from the Vicar of Folkestone (Canon P.F. Tindall) was also read. The Vicar stated that he understood application was to be made for extension of hours from 10 p.m. to 10.30 p.m. He was of the opinion that the 10 p.m. closing hour was the best for all concerned. The satisfactory record for the past year was sufficient proof that it was best to leave well alone.

The Clerk said he understood that there were some ladies and gentlemen present who wished to address the Bench. Concluding, Mr. Andrew said there was also a letter from the Folkestone and District Temperance Council, signed by the Rev. H.T. Cooper protesting against the application. The Council represented fourteen different denominations of the Christian Church, and the writer said that the Council considered that the good law and order which had prevailed in the town was largely due to the reasonable hours.

Mr. Mowll asked which of the ladies and gentlemen present were going to oppose the application.

Dr. J.C. Carlile, the Pastor of the Folkestone Baptist Church, said that he was representing the clergy and ministers, and a number of the petitioners. It would be for everybody`s convenience of they did not have a considerable number of speeches and therefore he was going to speak on behalf of those he had mentioned.

Mrs. Russell, of the National Women`s Temperance Association, and Mrs. Pollard, of the Women Citizens` Association, also intimated that they would like to say a few words.

Mr. Rutley Mowll said he had one comment to make about the opposition, which he was sure Dr. Carlile and those who followed him would accept, and that was that the application was not opposed by the police authorities. The persons who were responsible for the good conduct of the town were not offering any opposition to this application. And what was this application? After all said and done, it was a matter of half an hour, and the half hour which he asked them to grant was so that the public houses might be allowed to remain open until 10.30 p.m. instead of 10 p.m. for the sale of intoxicating liquor. On the face of it, it did not seem a very unreasonable request. The varied habits of the people were recognised by the legislature as was seen by Section One of the Licensing Act of 1921. Special arrangement was made for the Metropolis. Then again, they knew of their own knowledge that townspeople and country people had different habits. Therefore the legislature had provided for the hours being extended by half an hour where special requirements justified an extension being granted. Folkestone was one of the premier, if not the premier, seaside resorts on the south coast, and he thought it was not an unfair argument to put before them, without suggesting for one moment that they would be affected by the decisions of other Benches, that there was no reason why Folkestone should be denied a privilege which had already been granted in Margate, Westgate, Broadstairs, Birchington, Deal, Dover and Hythe. In all cases the extension of half an hour had been granted, in some cases for the whole year, and in others for the four summer months, and if he might say so it was for the four seasonable months for which he was asking – the time when Folkestone was extraordinarily busy with visitors, many of whom came from London, where they were accustomed to later hours. From June to September he was asking them to grant this privilege, and he might say, in anticipation of what Dr. Carlile would put to them with that adroitness and cleverness which they all admired, that at other places where the extension had been granted no ill-effect had resulted.

The Chairman: At which towns has the extra half hour been granted for the four months only?

Mr. Mowll said he thought he was right in saying at Deal and Hythe. When the application was first made at Hythe the police opposed it, but so happily had it worked out in practice that he understood the privilege was now continued without any opposition from the police at all. No ill result had occurred through granting this privilege elsewhere and he thought it was fair to ask this question, especially having heard the good
report the Chief Constable had given of the licensed victuallers in the town: Was there any reason to suppose that Folkestone`s licensed victuallers, Folkestone`s visitors and Folkestone`s residents could not be trusted as much as the people of the other towns he had mentioned? The application was supported by all the leading hotels. He had not followed the opposition in incurring expenditure on stationery, because one knew how very easy it was to get people to sign petitions. Many of those who had signed the petitions were persons who not only did not require intoxicating liquor after 10 o`clock, but they did not require it at all. The leading hotels cordially supported the application. Although the extension had the support of the leading hotels, he ventured to submit that it was the humbler classes who were most affected. The man who had plenty of money could afford to have his bottle of whisky in his house and so have a drink when he got home. One knew from practice that the working class people did not have their whisky in that way. They had a right to encourage people going to places of healthy recreation, and to spend an evening that way was better than spending it in a public house, but, Mr. Mowll pointed out, if there was not time for some refreshment at the close of an entertainment people would spend their evening in a public house instead of going to a place of recreation first. It was not a question of right or wrong: prohibition on the one side and that which was different on the other. The trend of thought represented by Dr. Carlile and those who supported him was this – they as Christian workers, although not all Christian workers agreed with them, considered drinking was a snare, and if it were put to them to vote on the subject most of them would be in favour of sweeping drink out of the country and putting it on American lines. That was not the point, however, they had to consider. The point they had to consider was if thses extra facilities for the consumption of intoxicating liquor were to be granted by them as part of their jurisdiction. They were not to decide whether the public should be teetotallers or not. Many of them might be strong teetotallers and yet realise that there were other people just as good as they were, and yet not teetotallers. The point was, having to administer the legislation for the control of intoxicating liquor, was it right that they should give facilities for persons to have their intoxicating liquor just half an hour later than they got it today? Folkestone might be trusted to carry out this concession properly, fairly and rightfully, and if they did find the concession was being abused, the remedy was in their own hands – they could refuse the application another year.

Dr. Carlile remarked that the Magistrates had heard a similar application on two previous occasions. He ventured to submit to the Bench that they had heard nothing new in the way of argument that day. They had one additional fact – the licensed hotels were now petitioning for this extension. Before they did not. The Bench would observe that it was the hotels holding licences that were petitioning. The other hotels he did not think were included in that list. Some of them were not he knew for a fact. He would like the Bench to feel that their opposition was not presented on behalf of Prohibitionists or total abstainers for the purpose of getting rid of the use of intoxicating liquor in the town. The petitions presented to the Bench were signed mainly by poor people in the town, and a large majority of them were not total abstainers and did not sign the petition with any idea of becoming total abstainers. He appreciated the point made by Mr. Mowll that the application was made on behalf of the working classes. He would have appreciated it much more if it had been urged that it was for the working classes for the whole of the year and for the people who lived in Folkestone. The working class people when asked for their opinion gave their reply, and he submitted that their reply was in the petition presented to them. The poorer mothers knew quite well that the time for putting their children to bed must be controlled by the time the public houses in the immediate neighbourhood closed. The only new position about the application was that there was a new advocate, and Mr. Mowll always made the best of his points. With regard to the towns where this innocent thirty minutes had been granted they were not told that at Eastbourne and Brighton the houses closed at 10 p.m. and were quite satisfied. A large number of other places had a ten o`clock closing hour. They were not told the Elham Bench only a few days ago decided to keep to 10 p.m. instead of 10.30 p.m. If they extended the hour to 10.30 in Folkestone they would have the undesirables from Elham coming into the town, and Folkestone would stand a good chance of losing its good record. He ventured to submit that they were more likely to retain that record for sobriety by keeping the hours as at the present time. It had been stated that the police did not oppose the application. He thought it was very undesirable to bring the police in unless there was some very exceptional ground for the police to take action. Half an hour did not seem very long, but the same argument could be used if the closing time happened to be 11.30 p.m., and they asked for an extension to midnight. There was no finality to these applications.

Mr. Mowll: Oh, yes, there is absolute finality. Half past ten is the limit we can apply for.

Dr. Carlile: supposing the hours are now extended to 10.30 there is no reason why there should not be an application at a later stage for 11 o`clock.

Mr. Mowll: Yes there is. The law is against it.

Dr. Carlile said they desired to retain the social wellbeing of their town. If 10 p.m. was good enough for Brighton and Eastbourne and a large number of other places exactly the same as Folkestone – health resorts – then ten o`clock was good enough for Folkestone.

The Chairman asked the opposition if their attitude would have been the same if they knew the application was for only four months instead of the whole year.

Dr. Carlile said it would have been greater because it was not in the interests of Folkestone to attract people who were extremely anxious for late drinking. Visitors did not come to Folkestone because of its public house facilities.

Mrs. Pollard, of the Women Citizen`s Association, said they thought it was in the best interests of all that the public houses should be closed at 10 p.m. Now that their menfolk worked less hours it seemed ridiculous to extend the hours.

The Rev. Cooper said if the Folkestone and District Temperance Council had known that the application was for only four months they would have fought the issue even more strenuously and vigorously. If Folkestone made a bid for the class of visitor who wanted longer drinking facilities the town would jeopardise its good name.

Mrs. Russell, of the British Women`s Temperance Association, said in obtaining signatures to their petition they were very careful to obtain the signatures of only those over twenty one years of age. Many of those who had signed the petition were not total abstainers.

The Justices then retired. Upon their return the Chairman said the application which had been made had been fully considered by the Bench, and he was to inform them that the application was not granted. (Subdued applause)

Application was next made by Mr. Mowll on behalf of nine licensees for music and singing licences so that wireless concerts could be given to customers in the houses.

The Magistrates again retired and upon their return the Chairman said the Bench would grant Mr. Mowll`s request on condition that the concerts were given from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. They made no restrictions with regard to Sundays, Christmas Day and good Friday. The Bench were fully aware that these concerts were to be an attraction to the public houses, but at the same time they were going to grant the request for a year. The Bench thought that the public houses should be public houses not only in name, but in fact, and they looked forward to the time when the public houses would be conducted on lines similar to those on the Continent. The Continental cafe appealed to everybody and catered for everyone. They thought the time had come when more money should be spent on making these public houses more comfortable places for refreshments and rest.
 
Folkestone Herald 6-2-1926

Felix

When my eyes lighted on a report in Saturday`s Daily Telegraph on broadcasting, having for one of its headlines “10.30 p.m. An Ungodly Hour”, my attention was, perhaps not unnaturally, attracted, for the simple reason that just now this particular time of day is very much in the Folkestone air. To revert to the article, it was an account of a meeting held under the auspices of the Broadcasting Committee in the House of Lords. Mrs. Nugent Harris, one of the principal speakers, referred to wireless as promoting a greater means of sociability in the rural districts. This lady, in the course of further illuminating remarks, said it was a matter of complaint that some of the news did not come through until “10.30 p.m. – an ungodly hour to sit up to”. This, the lady added, was the opinion of a Worcestershire farmer. We live and learn. In my dense ignorance I have lived all these years and was not aware that 10.30 was to be classed with ungodliness. I was under the impression that each hour was godly if put to a good and wise purpose.

There have been shoals of ladies spending their valuable time in obtaining signatures to petitions, and all on account of this “ungodly hour”, which in the summer will mean 9.30 Greenwich Time. One lady (a stranger), suddenly taking an interest in my welfare, called at my cottage. Would I sign, she enquired, against licensed houses, etc., being opened until 10.30 p.m.? She kindly explained the prayer of the petition to the local Justices against their granting this concession of thirty minutes. However, so far as I was concerned, there was, to use a popular phrase, “Nothing doing”. No, I require no prompting. I may be right or wrong, but, exercising my right as a Britisher, I take another point of view. It does not always do to follow the crowd. Now in regard to granting this “ungodly” hour or half hour (9.30 Greenwich Time) I look on the other side of the picture. Imagine a combination on the other side petitioning against societies, the members of which might partake of raspberryade, lemonade, other “ades”, malted milk, cocoa, elderberry wine, etc., after 10 p.m. (9 p.m. Greenwich Time). I would not sign any such petition. I should regard the proposed restriction as something in the nature of tyranny – an attempt to interfere with the liberty of the subject. If a combination of people meet and enjoy a glass of parsnip or rhubarb wine, why should I petition against them consuming it after 9.30 (Greenwich Time)? I repeat. No, I will not. On the other hand, in the case of any of my fellow citizens or citizenesses, especially those coming hundreds of miles for a holiday to our town, why should I urge that they were not to enjoy, say, a glass of wine, or a draught of beverage brewed from a Kentish plant? Well, the whole matter, from a level-headed point of view, appears to be too absurd for words. I wonder what our forefathers, who built up this mighty empire, would think about all this petty interference? They would probably call it something in the nature of mollycoddling. We have brotherhoods and sisterhoods galore. Will this funny kind of interference promote the good feeling they are aiming at? The fact is we want uniformity in this matter of hours. Hythe has had the extra half hour in the summer and not one case of insobriety has resulted. The “ungodly hour” has not resulted in anything ungodly. Of course, these humble remarks express my own views, but they are shared by very many who may well be described as good sound Britishers and worth citizens in every respect.

One of the most striking parts of Mr. Roy Smiles`s speech at the Licensed Victuallers` dinner held at the Royal Pavilion Hotel last week was that referring to the intimation made recently at the Elham Petty Sessions that no extension for dinners, etc., would be granted after 10.30 p.m. Mr. Smiles was alluding to his application for one hour`s extension on the occasion of the Cheriton Gardeners` Society annual dinner, which is usually attended by the Chairman and members of the Cheriton Urban District Council, clergymen of the district, magistrates, and other prominent local men. In making applications for an hour`s extension those applying are generally asking on behalf of others for their rights under an Act of Parliament. These rights are afterwards granted at the discretion of the Justices. Are we living in the twentieth century? There was a time when Britishers would assert their rights. But we “take things lying down” nowadays, it seems.

Folkestone Express 13-2-1926

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 9th: Before Alderman R.J. Wood, Messrs. A.E. Pepper, Swoffer, E.T. Morrison, A. Stace, Owen, J.H. Blamey, W.R. Boughton, W. Hollands, W. Griffin, P. Broome-Giles, Miss A.M. Hunt, and Dr. W.J. Tyson.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A. S. Beesley) presented his annual report as follows: I have the honour to present my third Annual report relating to the administration of the Licensing Laws within this borough for the year 1925.

Licensed Premises.—There are in the bor­ough 112 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor, the number being made up as follows:—Full licenses 69; beer on 7; beer off 6; beer and spirit dealers 18; grocers, etc., off 6; confectioners’ wine on 3; chemists wine off 7; cider and sweets off 1; 79 off, 33 on. No licensed houses were referred back on the grounds of redundancy by the last Annual Licensing Committee.

Alehouse Licences: Of the alehouse licences, two are 6 day licences.
               
Licences Transferred: Six of the licences have been transferred during the year, viz., Jubilee Public House, from Hugh Mackay to William George Tingey on the 7th January, 1925; Pleasure Gardens Theatre, from Frederick Ralph to Ewart Cobden Potter on the 11th February, 1925; Black Bull Hotel, from William George Wilson to William John Bennett on 11th March, 1925; 134, Sandgate Road, from Charles William Turner to Cecil Henry Martin Brooke on 11th March, 1925; Bathing Establishment, from Edwin Willis to Ernest Alfred Baker on 8th April, 1925; and the Globe Hotel, from Henry John Butler to George Chambers on 20th May, 1925.

Occasional Licences: Eleven occasional licences were issued to licence holders to sell intoxicating liquor other than on their licensed premises.

Extension of Licensing Hours: 281 exten­sions have been granted to licence holders when dinners, etc., were being held on their licensed premises. In no case has any abuse of the privilege been officially noted, though certain complaints have been received.

Convictions Against Licensees, etc.: During the year three licensees were proceeded against for breaches of the Intoxicating Liquor Laws, viz.:—(1) On the 10th February, 1925, Charles Frederick Hutson, of 45 and 47, Bournemouth Road, for failing to exhibit his name end nature of licence on his licensed premises; case dismissed. (2) On the 5th July, 1925, Hugh Lawrence Forsyth, of the Victoria Pier, for supplying intoxicating liquor during non-permitted hours; case withdrawn. (3) On the same date the same licensee was proceeded against for selling beer on a Sunday, he being the holder of a six day licence only; case dismissed. (4) On the same date the same licensee was proceeded against for permitting gaming on his licensed promises (cards), and j be was fined £10. (5) On the 19th October, 1925, Annie Arthur, of the Star and Garter public-house, for supplying intoxicating liquor, during non-permitted hours; case dismissed with a caution.

Five persons were proceeded against for consuming intoxicating liquor on licensed premises during non-permitted hours.

Visits to Licensed Premises by Police: All licensed premises have been periodically visited at irregular intervals by my officers during the year, to see that the same were being conducted in a satisfactory manner, and I am pleased to say that with few exceptions, no adverse reports have been sub­mitted to me. The number of visits made was 1,036.

Drunkenness: During the year ended 31st December, 1925, 22 persons (15 males and 7 females) were proceeded against for drunkenness, of whom 13 were convicted and 9 discharged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded against 10 were residents of the Borough, 7 soldiers, 2 of no fixed abode and 3 non-residents. This is a decrease of one as compared with the number proceeded against in the previous year, of whom 13 were convicted and 10 discharged.

Comparative Return of Drunkenness: The following table shows a comparative return of drunkenness with Boroughs similarly situated to Folkestone:- Chester, population in 1921, 40,802, number proceeded against per 1,000 of population 1.37; Scarborough, 46,179, and 1.01; Gravesend, 31,171, and 3.17; Bedford, 40,242, and 1.09; Oxford, 57,036, and .94; Ramsgate, 36,571, and .567; Margate, 46,480 , and .56; Folkestone, 37,535, and .58.

Permitted Hours: The permitted hours as allowed by the Licensing Act of 1921 have  been fixed by the Licensing Justices for the Borough of Folkestone as under: Weekdays from 10.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. and from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.; Sundays from 12 noon to 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 10 p.m.

Clubs: Twelve clubs where intoxicating liquor is supplied are registered under the Act.This is an increase of one as compared with the previous year, namely, the United Services Club, 84, Dover Road, which was opened on the 14th November, 1925.

Conviction Against Club Official: On the 10th July, 1925, John Charles Neale, the steward of the Druids’ Club, Dover Street, was summoned for supplying intoxicating liquor during non-permitted hours, and he was fined £5. 'The Secretary of this club, John Stand­ing, was summoned to show cause why the club should not be struck off the Register on the grounds of misconduct, but after strictly cautioning him, the Bench dismissed the case. Two persons were convicted for consuming intoxicating liquor on this club’s premises during non-permitted hours, and the pro­ceedings for a similar offence against six other persons were dismissed. One person was convicted for obstructing the police in the execution of their duty on the above-mentioned premises.

Hotels and Restaurants: Six hotels and one restaurant have authority under Section 3 of the Licensing Act, 1921, to supply intoxicat­ing liquor with meals, for one hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, namely: Metropole Hotel, Grand Hotel, Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel, Esplanade Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, and Central Cafe.

Music and Dancing: Twenty eight licences or music and dancing have been granted or renewed under the provisions of Part IV of the Public Health Act, Amendment Act, 1890. One licence for music only was granted during the year, to the Regent Cafe, Dover Road.

In conclusion, I should like to express my appreciation for the ever-ready courtesy and fairness extended to me by the Bench during the past year, and for the valuable assistance and advice of your Clerk, Mr John Andrew, which is always unreservedly placed at my service.

The Chairman asked if the Magistrates would like to retire to consider the report.

Mr. Hollands said he thought they were per­fectly satisfied with it.

The Chairman said the Magistrates con­sidered the report as being of a very satisfac­tory nature, and they noted they compared very favourably with other towns of a similar size, and they hoped it would continue. They noticed with satisfaction that police officers had been about doing their duty, and over one thousand visits had been paid, and if the law had not been kept it would have been brought to the notice of the Chief Constable, and proper steps would have been taken. It was very gratifying that they had only had to take proceedings against ten residents for drunkenness, and that in a town the size of Folkestone was very creditable. It showed that open, blatant drunkenness had come to an end in a town of that size. There had been a conviction against a club official, and that was a serious matter, and the only serious matter brought forward during the year.

With regard to the extensions to licensed holders, complaints had reached the ears of the licensing Magistrates as well, and comments had been made from the Bench. He was re­quested to say that the Magistrates repeated the comments made upon it, and they thought it was a proper thing to have done, and they emphasised that where the Magistrates granted extensions to licensed holders for a certain function, it was only those taking part in the function who might be supplied, and it did not apply to outsiders going in, and those applying for extensions must know that the outside public were not to be admitted during the extended hours to get any benefit. They were very pleased with the satisfactory nature of the Chief Constable`s annual report.

The Chief Constable said that with regard to the last point, he took immediate steps to bring the comments to the notice of the people who were affected. He was satisfied the magistrates would have no cause for complaint again.

The Chairman said the whole of the licences, with one exception, that of the Victoria Pier, would be granted, and the licence of the Victoria Pier would be referred to the adjourned meeting.

The licence of the Railway Tavern was transferred to Mr. H. G. Reed, and that of the Globe Hotel, The Bayle, to Mrs. Eliza­beth Chambers.

The Clerk said he had received notice from Mr. Rutley Mowll, on behalf of the licensed victuallers to apply for an extension of hours from 10 p.m. to 10.30 p.m. during June, July, August and September.

Mr. Rutley Mowll said if there was any opposition he would like them to open because he would have an opportunity of answering them. Last year, Dr. J.C. Carlile was there, and he saw him there again, and he was against him that day, and he had no opportunity of answering him because each side was only allowed to speak once. He asked whether there was anyone there to oppose, or whether they were leaving theur arguments in the hands of Dr. Carlile.

The Clerk said he had petitions which were stated to be signed by 4,379 persons, resident presumably in the town, and of the number 3,732 were women. In the petition they stated they respectfully asked the magistrates not to make any alterations in the present hours of licensing. They did not make it as total abstainers, some of them were not, but they agreed that the present hours were satisfac­tory in the general interests of the town, and they knew of no dissatisfaction with the the Magistrates’ decision, which they thought had been successful in the last three years. He had also received a letter from the Rev. F.W. Moyle, from a joint conference of clergy and ministers, stating they knew of no new reasons for any alteration, and he hoped the Magistrates would agree to their previous decision. He had also received a letter from Mr. Fletcher, the Secretary of the Radnor Park Congregational Church, respectfully submitting their conviction that the present hours of opening were entirely adequate to meet all reasonable need. They believed it was in the best interests of the borough that the appli­cation for the extension of hours should be refused. Increased drinking facilities, especi­ally at night, were not desirable from any point of view. The record of the borough was an excellent one, and they hoped its good name would not be jeopardised by lengthen­ing the hours.

Mr. Mowll asked if there was anybody else against him, besides his friend and very adroit advocate.

Dr. Carlile said he understood it would meet with the Magistrates’ approval if he spoke on behalf of all parties.

The Chairman: Yes.

Mr. Mowll: Couldn’t have a better, sir.

Mr. Mowll said it was his pleasing duty to represent to them on behalf of the licensed victuallers, whose knowledge of the needs of the district must be considerably greater than that of those who never entered a public house, that they had the opportunity to re­move what was an existing anomaly in con­nection with Folkestone, and that was that although under summer-time ten o’clock by the clock was really nine o’clock Greenwich mean time, and although they had an ex­ceptional influx of population at Folkestone during the summer season, yet at the present time the public-houses in Folkestone were closed at ten o’clock by summer time, it was really nine o’clock Greenwich mean time, and without dispute the fact many visitors to Folkestone were accustomed to much longer hours. It was an anomaly for Folkestone to be in that position as a seaside resort, be­cause they knew quite well what had been done at Margate, Deal and the neighbouring borough of Hythe. The point of the appli­cation was that they had in a place like Folkestone special needs, and it was meet those special needs that the application was made. There was a much larger population to handle, and to be catered for, and these people were entitled to expect reasonable facilities, not for drunkenness, but for obtain­ing refreshments in a respectable way. That was all they asked. The granting of the extra half-hour had been in force some little time at Hythe, and only last week the Superintendent of Police at Hythe told the magistrates that he had not had a single case of where the privilege had been abused. Was there any reason why Folkestone should not be equally trusted as Hythe? They had had the exten­sion at Hythe, and it had been an absolute success, and it 'had never been abused. The opposition, frankly, was a religious one. It proceeded from those who were devoted to, the cause of religion, only a section, but still an mportant section, and one for whom they all entertained the greatest respect. However much his friend Dr. Carlile might represent his case he charged him, and those who were associated with him, with having invented a new sin, and that was the sin of taking moderate alcoholic refreshment. If Folke­stone could behave so well up to ten o'clock, was there any reason to suppose that her in­habitants would disgrace themselves in this extra half-hour? Needs differed. Take his friend Dr. Carlile. He had no doubt he was an enthusiastic devotee to that excellent drink known as ginger beer. He found it highly exhilarating, and he could revel in it, s not if he wanted to, all night. A man, with a sufficiently large pocket to be able to buy a total bottle of whiskey could get his bottle of they whiskey, and help himself all night long if he liked, provided he was not on licensed premises. If he had not got the good fortune to possess money to buy a bottle of t had whiskey at a time, as soon as the sun struck nine o’clock he had to go without. That was class legislation. He was making appli­cation for June, July, August and September, when             they had so many people in the town, and naturally the work of the licence holders must be very much increased. People went to a place of entertainment, and had to leave early if they wanted to get a little intoxicating refreshment before they went home. That was his application, just for half an hour for the four seasonal months, and if they found it was not successful it would bo open for the Magistrates to vary that order on a future occasion.

Dr. Carlile said he wanted to say at once that ho did not represent the total abstainers’ associations of the town, except by the cour­tesy of Mr. Weaver and others, who thought it better for the convenience of the Magistrates that there should be one speaker instead of several. He represented mainly those who did not indulge in ginger beer. They had nearly four thousand women, nearly the whole of them working women, and the great majority of them living on the spot where licensed premises were. They were not people in the West End wishing to object to people in the East End having a drink. A large majority of them were not abstainers, but many of them who had a long acquaint­ance with the effects of half-an-'hour late at night upon women and children. This was the fourth application they had had before the Magistrates, and he submitted that with the exception of the pleasantries they had had precisely the same arguments they had had year by year. The first argument was for the convenience of the visitor. Seeing that the majority of residents in this country were under the ten o’clock rule, and not under the 10-30, they were not imposing any re­striction upon them when they came to Folke­stone. Then they had the question of the working man, particularly, he understood, the fisherman. The working man did not go home from his work at ten o’clock at night. Most of them had very ample time, and he was delighted that they had, to get all the drink they wanted before ten o’clock. It did not follow at all that because a man was a minister he was a total abstainer. He was claiming now to represent some thousands of persons who were not total abstainers. Nothing had been said about the working hours of the persons engaged on licensed premises. He was there in the interests of the well-being of the community of the whole town, and he wanted to put in a plea for the girls who cleaned out the premises after the houses were closed, and the men who had to stay to do all sorts of odd jobs half-an-hour and one hour after time. For the sake also of the children he urged that the Magistrates should not alter its previous decision.

After an absence of twenty minutes, the Chairman said Mr. Mowll had made a double- barrelled application in the first instance.

Mr. Mowll: And only fired off one barrel.

Alderman Wood said the application in the first instance was for half-an-hour all the year round, and the alternative half-an-hour for the summer months. He dropped the first and went for the second one. If he had gone for the first, the Magistrates would not havel entertained it in any shape or form, because they were against extending the licences for the whole of the year. Having regard to the fact that Folkestone largely increased its population during the summer months, and some of these people came from places where the hour was 10-30, and also having regard to the licensees, who, they believed, were trying to do their best, and the Magistrates knew they had great difficulty in dosing at ten o`clock, the application would be granted for an extension during the four summer months.

Folkestone Herald 13-2-1926

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 10th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Dr. W.J. Tyson, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G. Boyd, Mr. E.T. Morrison, Col. G.P. Owen, Mr. A. Stace, Alderman A.E. Pepper, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Mr. W. Griffin, Mr. W.R. Boughton, Col. P. Broome-Giles, and Miss A.M. Hunt.

There was a large attendance of the general public.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) presented his report (for details see Folkestone Express).

The Chairman: Would the Bench like to retire to consider the report?

Mr. Hollands: I think we are perfectly satisfied with the report.

The Chairman said on behalf of the Bench he would like to say the Magistrates considered the report to be very satisfactory. They noted that the convictions for drunkenness compared very favourably with towns of a similar size, and he hoped that would continue. They noticed with satisfaction that the officers had been about doing their duty, so had the law not been kept they felt sure the matter would have been brought to the notice of the Chief Constable and proper steps taken. The Magistrates were gratified to know that proceedings had only been taken against ten residents of the borough, and that in a town the size of Folkestone was very creditable. It showed that open, blatant drunkenness had come to an end in a town of that size. There had been a conviction against a club official, and that was a serious matter, the only really serious one of the year. There was one point he was asked to mention, and that was in reference to extensions of licences. Certain complaints had been received, and comments were made by the Bench. He wished to say that that Bench supported those comments. When the Bench granted extensions of licences for certain functions, the extension was only for those taking part in the function, and was not for outsiders coming in. The public were not allowed after permitted hours. The Magistrates were very pleased to see the satisfactory nature of the report.

The Chief Constable said with regard to the matter of the extension of licences mentioned by the Bench he would like to say that he took immediate steps to bring the remarks of the Justices to the notice of the persons concerned, and he was satisfied that the Bench would not again have cause for complaint.

The Chairman announced that the whole of the licences would be renewed for the ensuing year.

Mr. G.W. Haines, on behalf of the administrators of the late Mr. Thomas Southall, applied for the transfer of the Railway Tavern to Mr. H. Reed.

The Magistrates sanctioned the transfer.

Mrs. E. Chambers applied for a temporary authority to carry on the Globe Hotel, The Bayle, her husband, who was the licensee, having died.

The authority was granted.

The Magistrates` Clerk (Mr. J. Andrew) said he had received a notice from Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, of Dover, stating that they intended applying on behalf of the Licensed Victuallers` Association for an extension of hours until 10.30 p.m. during the whole of the year. Since then, however, Mr. Mowll had informed him that he only intended applying for an extension until 10.30 for the summer months of June, July, August and September.

Mr. Rutley Mowll said he would very much like, if there was any opposition, that they should open, for then he would have an opportunity of answering them. Last year his friend, Dr. Carlile, was against him, and on that occasion he had no opportunity of answering him, for each side was allowed only one speech. The fact that Dr. Carlile was again present that morning suggested that he was going to oppose him. Was there anyone else?

The Chairman said as Mr. Mowll was making the application he had better open.

The Magistrates` Clerk said he had received petitions which, it was stated, had been signed by 4,379 persons who were residents of the town. There was a petition from women residents over eighteen years of age asking the Magistrates not to make any alteration, and stating that they considered the present hours were satisfactory, and in the general interests of the town. They had heard of no dissatisfaction at the decision of the Magistrates on this matter, which had been repeated for three years. Continuing, Mr. Andrew said he had received a communication from the Rev. F.W. Moyle, stating that at a joint conference of clergy and ministers he was asked to call attention to the fact that such application for extension of hours had been made three years in succession, and they hoped the Magistrates would adhere to their previous decision. The communication was signed by Canon Tindall, Dr. Carlile, and the Rev. F.W. Moyle. He had received a petition from Mr. Fletcher, Honorary Secretary of the Radnor Park Congregational Church, stating that the members of the Church felt that the present hours of opening were entirely adequate, and he believed that the best interests of the borough would be served by the application being refused.

Mr. Mowll: Is there anyone else against me besides Dr. Carlile?

Dr. Carlile said it was thought it would meet the convenience of the Bench if he represented the whole of the opposition.

Mr. Mowll: They could not have done better. Continuing, Mr. Mowll said it was his pleasant duty to represent to them on behalf of the licensed victuallers, whose knowledge of the needs of the district must be considerably greater than that of someone who had never entered a public house, that they had that day an opportunity of removing an existing anomaly. That was that although in summer time 10 o`clock by the clock was really 9 o`clock, and though they had an exceptional influx of people during the summer season, yet at the present time the public houses in Folkestone were closed at 10 o`clock in summer time, which was really 9 o`clock by the sun. That was despite the fact that visitors to Folkestone were accustomed to longer hours. It was an anomaly  for Folkestone to be in that position, for the extension had been granted at Margate, Deal, and even their close neighbour, Hythe. The point of the application was that in a place like this there were special needs, and it was to meet those special needs that the application was being made. During the summer months there was a much larger population to handle and to be catered for, and those people wanted reasonable facilities for obtaining refreshment. The extra half hour had been in force some little time at Hythe, and only last week the Superintendent of the Police of that district told the Bench that they had not had a single case where the privilege had been abused. Was there any reason why Folkestone should not be trusted equally with Hythe? He extension at Hythe had been an absolute success. He asked them to do the same for Folkestone. No-one could doubt the wonderful record they had got in Folkestone for the excellent conduct of their public houses. The Chief Constable`s report spoke volumes. It had been stated that there had been 1,036 police visits, and with but few exceptions there had been no adverse reports. Frankly, he considered that the opposition was a religious one, proceeding from a section devoted to the cause of religion, a section for whom they all entertained the greatest respect. However much Dr. Carlile might represent his case, he charged him with having invented a new sin, that was the sin of taking moderate alcoholic refreshment. Many people held strong views on the subject. One believed in their sincerity, but they were not the best judges on a matter of this kind, as to whether the facilities for taking of alcoholic refreshment should be extended. Needs were different. Dr. Carlile was a great devotee of ginger beer, and he could revel in it all night if he wanted to. Another, however, might think beer was more digestive, but that man would have to leave off when it was 9 o`clock by the sun. Again, a man with a sufficiently large pocket to be able to buy a large bottle of whisky could get it and drink it all night as long as he was not on licensed premises. But the man who was not so lucky with money must stop when the clock struck nine. That, he submitted, was class legislation, one law for the rich and one for the poor. Dr. Carlile asked last time, if the half hour was granted, where the thing was going to stop; next, he said, it would be 11 o`clock. Dr. Carlile could rest assured that such an application would not be possible, for the law said that intoxicating liquor must not be sold after the hour of 10.30. That could be granted for all the year round, but he did not ask for that, only for those months when the visitors were here. People went to a place of entertainment in the evening, and they must leave early if they wanted a little alcoholic refreshment. They had petitions before them with 4,300 odd signatures on them. It was quite possible to get equal if not larger numbers for exactly the opposite thing. Petitions did not count for much, and he was sure the Magistrates would exercise their judgement to see that each side got fair play. If the Magistrates found that the half hour`s extension was not a success, then they could vary the order on a future occasion.

Dr. Carlile said he had one advantage in speaking after Mr. Mowll, which he quite appreciated. It was not his fault that he followed Mr. Mowll; it was his good fortune. He wanted to say at once that he did not represent the Temperance organisations of the town, except by the courtesy of Mr. Weaver and others, who thought it better for the convenience of the Magistrates that there should be one speaker instead of several. He represented mainly those who did not indulge in ginger beer. He never drank it. He did want to strongly assert and emphasise for the attention of the Bench that there were nearly 4,000 women, nearly the whole of them working women, many living direct on the spot where the licensed premises were, who had signed those petitions. They were not people from the West End, they were working people, and the large majority were non-abstainers, who appreciated what the effects might be of even a half hour longer at night. This was the fourth application before the Bench for the extra half hour, and, but for some pleasantries, precisely the same arguments were put forward year by year. The first argument was about the convenience of the visitors. Seeing that the majority of the residents in this country were under the 10 o`clock rule, they were not imposing any restriction on them when they came to Folkestone. He wished to refer to a statement made last year at the mayoral banquet. Mr. Cox represented the Southern Railway, and very ably too, and stated that during July and August 250,000 people were conveyed by the Southern Railway to Folkestone, which was an increase of 35,000 on the previous year. That did not bear out any suggestion that the absence of that half hour made any difference to visitors to Folkestone. He was sure that it was not seriously contended that people, before they came to Folkestone, looked up the licensing arrangements to see if the public houses were closed at 10 o`clock or 10.30. Then there was put forward the question of the working man, and particularly the fisherman. The working man did not go ome from work at 10 o`clock at night. It was but a very small part of the population of working men that went home at that time of night. The average man had ample time to get all the drink he wanted before 10 o`clock. Mr. Mowll had mentioned Margate, Deal, and Hythe, but he noticed he had said nothing about Dover this time. He would say nothing further about that.....

Mr. Mowll: I must say.....

Mr. Boyd: I do not think Dr. Carlile should be interrupted.

The Chairman remarked that Dr. Carlile had said he would say nothing further about it.

Mr. Mowll: Yes, but Dover has been mentioned. There was a cloud, but he might tell them that cloud was likely to disperse very soon.

Continuing, Dr. Carlile said mention had been made of the special needs of the town, and they had heard pleasantries about the new sin. He left it at that. It did not follow that because a man was a minister he was a total abstainer, or because he was a member of the Church he was the same. He claimed that he now represented some thousands of people who were not total abstainers. They had been told that the applicants could get up a petition of equal numbers to that which they had put before the Bench. If this was so, why did they not do it? That was the answer to that. It had been tried, though they knew it had not been tried this year, and there was a very obvious reason why it had not been tried. There were one or two things to which he would like to draw the attention of the Magistrates. Nothing had been said about the working hours of the person engaged at licensed premises. He wanted to say that he had a great regard for the men and women who conducted public houses, particularly small ones. He was nit there as an enemy of the trade; he was there in the interests of the whole town. He wanted to put in a plea for the girls who cleaned out the premises after the houses had closed; he wanted to say something for the men who had to stay and do odd jobs sometimes for half an hour, sometimes more. Nothing had been said about the working woman waiting at home for her husband. Whatever as the conduct of the licensee on his own premises, he could not be responsible for the foolish women who left their children on the doorstep. They had had a fine report from the Chief Constable, and he would like to add a word of congratulation to him and his officers. But why make a change at all? Where did the argument come from? They knew of the outside influences that had been used, and the communications that had been sent, but he felt sure that they would carry no weight with the Bench, and they would consider the interests of the town and the interests of the working women who took the trouble without any sort of payment to collect those names. He might tell Mr. Mowll that the majority of the women who canvassed for those names were working women, and not ladies from the West End. Many were in no way connected with Temperance organisations. For those reasons he hoped the Magistrates would come to the same conclusions as they had previously done for three years in succession. He was surprised at the courage of Mr. Mowll in coming over and making the fourth application. A large number of people were looking to the Bench and their decision that morning. It was not a question of religion, but a question of the needs of the people. He hoped the Bench would come to the conclusion which they had arrived at three years in succession.

The Magistrates retired for twenty five minutes, and on their return the Chairman said MR. Mowll had made a double-barrelled application in the first instance.

Mr. Mowll: Yes, but I only fired one barrel.

Continuing, Alderman Wood said that was the case. First of all, Mr. Mowll had applied for an extra half hour for the whole of the year, but since then he had altered it to a half hour`s extension for the four summer months. He took that opportunity of saying with regard to the first application the Bench would not have entertained it in any shape or form, for they were against it for the whole of the year. The Magistrates thought the decrease in convictions for drunkenness was due to some extent through education, and also through the shorter hours. With regard to the application for the half hour`s extension during the four summer months, the Magistrates had regard to the fact that during those months there was a big increase in the population of Folkestone, and people came from places where the hour was 10.30, and the Magistrates thought the licensees were doing their best. The Bench knew that during the four summer months the licensees had difficulty in closing at 10 o`clock. The Bench had decided to grant the application for the extra half hour during the summer months.

Mr. Mowll: On behalf of those whom I represent I thank you.

Folkestone Express 12-2-1927

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 9th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Alderman A.E. Pepper, Mr. E.T. Morrison, Mr. W. Griffin, Col. P. Broome-Giles, Miss A.M. Hunt, and Mr. J.H. Blamey.

The Clerk said the Chief Constable had been called away from the town on a matter of great importance to himself, and he understood the Chief Constable had informed the Mayor of the necessity of his non-attendance at the Licensing Sessions. He bad received a letter asking the Magistrates to excuse him The matter which took the Chief Constable away was beyond his own ken.

Inspector Pittock presented the report of the Chief Constable (Mr. A.S.  Beesley), which stated that there were 113 promises licensed for the sale of intoxicating drink in the borough.  No convictions wore recorded against licensees during the year. Thirty-one persons (28 males and 8 females) were pro­ceeded against for drunkenness, of whom 18 were convicted and 13 discharged after being cautioned. Ten were residents, six soldiers, nine of no fixed abode, and six non-residents. That was an increase of nine as compared with last year. Extended hours had been granted              during June. July, August and          Sep­tember, and no                ill effect from them had been observed. Fourteen clubs where intoxicating liquor was supplied were registered under the Act.

The Mayor said the report was very satisfac­tory. With regard to the half-hour’s exten­sion it had been asked for by the trade on several occasions, and it had not been granted, but last year it was granted, and it was very gratifying to those on the licensing Magis­trates that the Chief Constable had been able to say that no ill effects had been observed from that application.

With reference to the renewal of licences, the Magistrates had decided not to refer anything back to the adjourned Sessions, and with reference to the opening hours no request had been made for any alterations, and therefore they would remain in the new year and the same as they were during last year, and the whole of the licences for the borough would be renewed that morning.  
 
Folkestone Herald 12-2-1927

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 9th: Before The Mayor, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. A. Stace, Mr. E.T. Morrison, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Alderman A.E. Pepper, Mr. W. Griffin, Miss A.M. Hunt, and Colonel P. Broome-Giles.

The Magistrates Clerk (Mr. J. Andrew) said as they were probably aware the Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) had been called away from the town on a matter of grave importance to himself. He had received a letter from him (the Chief Constable) begging the Chairman and his colleagues to excuse his absence. He said he believed that the Magistrates were aware that the matter which had taken him away that day was beyond his own ken. Inspector Pittock was present to represent the Chief Constable.

The Chief Constable`s Annual Report was as follows:

Licensed Premises: There are in the borough 113 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor. The number is made up as follows: Full licences, 69; beer on, 7; beer off, 6; beer and spirit dealers, 13; grocers, etc., off, 6; confectioners wine on, 3; chemists wine off, 8; cider and sweets off, 1; making a total of 113 (79 on and 34 off).

No licensed houses were referred back on the ground of redundancy by the last annual Licensing Committee.

According to the Census for 1921, the population of the borough is 37,531, and that gives one licence to every 332 persons.

Ale House Licences: Of the ale house licences, two are six day licences.

Licences transferred: The following licences were transferred during the year: Globe Hotel, from George Chambers to Elizabeth Chambers; Railway Tavern, from Thomas Southall to Harry Reed; Clarendon Hotel, from Percy Venner to Wm. R. Oberman; Bradstone Tavern, from Henry Jones to Harry Older; True Briton, from William H. Purbrick to G.D. Martin; Mechanics Arms, from George G. Drysdale to Walter Grant; Sportsman Tavern, from Jesse Wood to John T. Smith.

Occasional Licences: Ten occasional licences were issued to licence holders when dinners, etc., were being held on their licensed premises. In no case has any abuse of the privilege been recorded. No convictions were recorded against licensees during the year.

Visits to Licensed Premises by Police: All licensed premises have been periodically visited at irregular intervals by my officers during the year to see that they were being conducted in a satisfactory manner, and with few exceptions no adverse reports have been submitted to me. The number of visits was 1,029.

Drunkenness: During the year ended 31st December, 1926, 31 persons (23 males and 8 females) were proceeded against for drunkenness, of whom 18 were convicted and 13 discharged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded against, 10 were residents of the borough, 6 soldiers, 9 of no fixed abode, and 6 non residents. This is an increase of 9 as compared with the number proceeded against in the preceding year, of whom 13 were convicted and 9 discharged.

Comparative Return of Drunkenness: The following table shows a comparative return of drunkenness with Boroughs similarly situated to Folkestone: Chester: Population, 40,802; Number proceeded against: 34 males, 10 females; Convicted: 23 males, 5 females; Dismissed: 11 males, 5 females; Number proceeded against per 1,000 of population: 1.07. Scarborough: 46.179; 48 and 5; 42 and 3; 6 and 2; 1.15. Gravesend: 31,171; 79 and 8; -: -; 2.7. Bedford: 40,242; 37 and 6; 35 and 5; 2 and 1; 1.06. Oxford: 57,036; 40 and 3; 31 and 3; 9 and 0; .75. Margate: 46,480; 26 and 2; 20 and 2; 6 and 0; .602. Ramsgate: 36,561; 20 and 1; 15 and 1; 5 and 0; 0.57. Folkestone: 37,535; 23 and 8; 14 and 4; 9 and 4; .82.

Permitted Hours: The hours allowed as per the Licensing Act of 1921 have been fixed by the Licensing Justices for the Borough of Folkestone as follows: Weekdays – From 10.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. and 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. Sundays – From 12 noon to 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. During the months of June, July, August and September, 1926, the Licensing Justices granted an extension of half an hour, from 10 p.m. to 10.30 p.m. on weekdays, and no ill-effects have been observed from this concession.

Clubs: Fourteen clubs where intoxicating liquor is supplied are registered under the Act. This is an increase of two as compared with the preceding year. The new clubs are as follows: Folkestone Working Men`s Club and Institute Ltd., 49b, Tontine Street, opened on 31st August, 1926, and the Folkestone Conservative Club Ltd., 45, Guildhall Street, opened on 25th October, 1926.

Hotels and Restaurants: Six hotels and one restaurant have authority under Section 3 of the Licensing Act, 1921, to supply intoxicating liquor with meals for one hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, namely: Metropole Hotel, Grand Hotel, Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel, Esplanade Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, and Central Cafe.

Music and Dancing: 32 licences for music and dancing have been granted or renewed under the provisions of Part IV of the Public Health Act, Amendment Act, 1890, an increase of three as compared with the previous year.

Billiards Licence: One public billiards hall, The Queen`s Hall, Tontine Street, has been licensed for billiards. This licence was transferred from Henry Hutchings (deceased) to William Bennett on the 17th November, 1926. Supervision of these premises has been kept, and no adverse reports have been received.

In conclusion, I would like to express my appreciation for the ever-ready courtesy and fairness extended to me by the Bench during the past year, and for the valuable assistance and advice of your Clerk, Mr. John Andrew, which is always unreservedly placed at my service.

The Mayor said the Magistrates understood that the Chief Constable`s absence was in consequence of something over which he had no control. The Magistrates wished Inspector Pittock to inform Mr. Beesley that the Licensing Magistrates regarded his report as a very satisfactory one for the year 1926. They noted that there had been no convictions recorded against the licensees. That certainly reflected much credit on those engaged in the trade, because it showed that they had been able to manage their businesses, which was not an easy one, in a most satisfactory manner. With regard to drunkenness, proceedings had been taken against 31 persons – 18 of whom were convicted. Of the eighteen convicted he did not know how many were local residents, but out of the total proceeded against only ten were local residents. The Magistrates regarded that as very satisfactory. Last year they granted an extension of hours during the summer months. The application in previous years had been refused. They were gratified to know that the Chief Constable was able to say that in allowing the extension no ill-effects had resulted. The comparative figures also given showed that Folkestone came next to the lowest for the number for the number of convictions for drunkenness. With reference to the renewal of the licences, the Magistrates had decided not to refer any of the licences back to the Adjourned Sessions. With reference to the opening hours, no request had been made for any alteration, and therefore the hours would remain the same this year as last, and the whole of the licences for the Borough would be renewed that morning.

Folkestone Express 11-2-1928

Annual Licensing Sessions

Tuesday, February 7th: Before The Mayor, Alderman A.E. Pepper, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Col. Owen, Mr. A. Stace, Col. Broome-Giles, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Miss Hunt, and Mr. W. Griffin.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) presented the following report:- I have the honour to present my fifth annual report relating to the administration of the licensing laws within this Borough for the year ending 31st December, 1927.

Licensed Premises: There are in the Borough 113 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor, the number being made up as follows: Full licences, 69; beer on, 7; beer off, 6; beer and spirit dealers, 13; grocers, etc., off, 6; confectioners wine, on, 3; chemists wine, off, 8; cider and sweets, off, 1; total 113 (79 on and 34 off).

No licensed premises were referred back on the grounds of redundancy by the annual Licensing Committee.

Alehouse Licences: Of the alehouse licences, two are 6-day licences.

Licences Transferred: The following licences were transferred during the year: Rose Hotel, Alfred J. Cope to James H. Kent; East Cliff Tavern, Martin G. Price to John W. Twigg; Packet Boat, John W. Twigg to Ernest W. Ellen; Prince of Wales, Frank Lupton to Edith A. Lupton; George Inn, Frederick Taylor to Harry Thompson ; Royal Nor­folk, George P. Keeler to Frances Keeler ; Leas Cliff Hall, James H. Kent to John L. Daniell; 17, Dover Road (grocers), Chas. H. Aylett to R. H. Adams; Harbour Hotel, E. Mainwood to George B. Offen; Prince Albert, Samson E. Roberts to Christopher Andrews; Granville Inn, Arthur Perrin to Harry Kennard; Jubilee Inn, William Tingey to George Taylor; Foord Tavern, Victor Sprules to A.W. King.

Note: Date for Granville is at variance with More Bastions.

Alterations to Licensed Premises: Structural alterations have been sanctioned by the Bench during the year, viz., Black Bull Hotel and Brewery Tap.

Removal of Licence: On the 9th March, 1927, the removal of licence from the Rose Hotel, Rendezvous Street, to the Leas Cliff Hall was granted by the Magistrates.

Occasional Licences: Twenty-three oc­casional licences were granted to licence holders to sell intoxicating liquor other than on their licensed premises.

Extension of Licensing Hours—Three hundred and forty-three extensions have been granted to licence holders when dinners, etc., were being held on their licensed premises, and in no case has any abuse of the privilege been recorded.

Proceedings against Licence Holders: No convictions were recorded against any licensee during the year, but two licen­sees were summoned for aiding and abetting one other person, in each case, to consume intoxicating liquor on their licensed premises during non-permitted hours. After severely cautioning the respective licensees, the Bench dismissed the summonses.

Visits by Police to Licensed Premises: All licensed premises have been periodic­ally visited at irregular intervals by my officers during the year, to see that they are being conducted in a satisfactory manner, and no adverse reports have been submitted to me. The number of visits was 1,003.

Drunkenness: During the year ending 31st December, 1927, 38 persons (32 males and 6 females) wore proceeded against for drunkenness, of whom 22 were convicted and 16 discharged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded against 14 were residents of the Borough, 5 soldiers, 10 of no fixed abode, and 9 non-residents. This is an in­crease of 7 as compared with the preced­ing year, when 18 were convicted and 13 discharged.

Comparative Return of Drunkenness: The following table shows a comparative return of drunkenness with Boroughs similarly situated to Folkestone: Cambridge; Population in 1921, 59,264; Number proceeded against per 1,000 of population, .305: Canterbury, 23,737; .71: Oxford, 57,036; .79: Chester, 40,802; 1.27: Scarborough, 47,179; 1.32:  Hove, 46,505; .53: Hastings, 66,611; .91: Margate, 46,480; .6: Gravesend, 31,171; 2.6.

Permitted Hours: The permitted hours as allowed by the Licensing Act, 1921, have been fixed by the Licensing Justices for this Borough as under: Weekdays, from 10-30 a.m. to 2-30 p.m. and 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.; Sundays, from 12 noon to 2 p.m., and 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. During the months of June, July, August and September, 1927, the extension of half-an-hour on weekdays from 10 p.m. to 10-30 p.m. was again allowed by the Bench, and no ill-effects have been observed.

Clubs: Sixteen clubs where intoxicat­ing liquor is supplied are registered under the Act. This is an increase of two as compared with the preceding year. The new clubs are as follows: Folkestone Park Bowls Club, registered 13th May, 1927, and Marine Club, regis­tered 23rd November, 1927.

Hotels and Restaurants: Six hotels and one restaurant have authority under Section III of the Licensing Act, 1921, to supply intoxicating liquor with meals, for one hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, namely:—Metropole Hotel, Grand Hotel, Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, Central Cafe.

Music and Dancing: Thirty three licences for music and dancing have been granted or renewed under the provisions of Part IV of the Public Health (Amendment) Act, 1890.

Billiards Licence: One public billiards hall, The Queen`s Hall, Tontine Street, has been licensed for billiards. Supervision of these premises has been kept, and no adverse reports have been received.

Conclusion: I should like to express my appreciation for the uniform kind­ness and fairness extended to me by the Bench during the past year, and for the valuable assistance and advice of your Clerk, Mr. John Andrew, which is always unreservedly placed at my ser­vice.

The Mayor said the Licensing Justices had heard the Chief Constable’s report with considerable satisfaction, and they were glad he was in a position to place such a good report before them for their consideration that morning. It meant that several, perhaps, had worked to get this result - the police, the licensees, the residents of the Borough, and the visitors who came to Folkestone in the summer ail shared in the making of the report of such a satisfactory nature. The police had paid 1,003 visits, and that showed the information was obtained direct from the officers, and it was very gratifying to the Licensing Justices that no licensee who held a licence under their authority had been convicted for breaking the licensing laws during the year. He also thought it would be gratifying to the town to know that only 38 persons had been proceeded against during the year. He must admit it was seven more than last year, but the num­ber of 38 was only about one per thou­sand of the normal population. It was very gratifying to know there were only fourteen residents of the Borough, and that brought it instead of being one percent to three in one thousand of the population. He thought he might say a word about the visitors who come to Folkestone in their thousands in the season, and in whose interests they al­lowed the extra half-hour. It was very gratifying to know that proceedings were only taken against two persons in the month of August, which was a very heavy month. The Bench also noted with satisfaction that although they had been generous in the applications made, they were glad to know that the privi­lege had not been abused. The whole of the licences which had been in exist­ence would be renewed for the year en­suing, and there would be no alteration in the licensing hours, and the order they made a year ago would stand again for another year.

Folkestone Herald 11-2-1928

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 8th: Before The Mayor, Ald. A.E. Pepper, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Colonel G.P. Owen, Mr. A. Stace, Mr. W. Griffin, Mr. J.H. Blamey, Colonel P. Broome-Giles, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, and Miss A.M. Hunt.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) presented his annual report (for details see Folkestone Express).

The Mayor said the licensing justices heard the report with considerable satisfaction. They were glad that the Chief Constable was in a position to bring such a good report before them for their consideration that morning. In saying that, it meant that several parties had worked together to get this result. The police, the licensees, and the inhabitants of the Borough, and the visitors who came to town in the summer all shared in the gratification that the report was of such a satisfactory nature. They were informed that the police had made 1,003 visits to licensed premises during the year, so that went to show that the Chief Constable`s information was obtained direct from his officers who had had the premises under inspection during the whole of the 12 months. It was also gratifying to the licensing justices that no licensee under their authority had been convicted for any irregularity or breaking of the licensing laws during the year. He also thought it was gratifying and would be gratifying to the inhabitants to know that only 38 people were proceeded against for drunkenness during the year. They must admit that it was more than last year, but the number of 38 was only about one per thousand of the normal population. It was also gratifying to know that out of that 38 only 14 were residents of the Borough, and therefore instead of one per thousand, that brought it to one in 3,000 of the normal population. He thought he might say a word in respect of the visitors who came in their thousands in the summer and in whose interests they allowed an extension of half an hour. It was gratifying to know that only two persons were proceeded against during August, which was a very heavy month. The Bench also noted with satisfaction that notwithstanding that they had been very generous in granting applications for extensions – everybody must admit that they had been very generous in this respect – they heard from the Chief Constable that that privilege had not been abused. The whole of the licences in existence would be renewed for the year ensuing, there would be no alteration in the licensed hours, and the order which the Magistrates made two years ago would stand again for another year.

Folkestone Express 9-2-1929

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 6th: Before Alderman G. Wood, Col. G.P. Owen, Mr. W. Griffin, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, Mr.J. H. Blamey and Mr. F. Seager.

The Chief Constable presented his report, which contained the following: I have the honour to present my (sixth) annual report relating to the administration of the licensing laws within the Borough for the year ending 31 December, 1928.

Licensed Premises.—There are in the Bor­ough 114 premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor, the number being made up as follows: Full licences 69, beer “on” 7, beer “off ” 7, beer and spirits dealers 13, grocers etc., “off” 6, confectioners wine “on” 3, cider and sweets “off ” 2, chemists wine “off” 8, total 114, 79 “on” and 35 “off." No licensed premises were referred back on the grounds of redundancy by the annual Licensing Committee.

Alehouse Licences: Of the alehouse licences, one is a six day licence.        

Alterations to Licensed Premises: Structural alterations have been sanctioned by the Bench during the year in connection with the Prince Albert public house.

Occasional Licences: Fifty eight occasional licences were granted to licence holders to sell intoxicating liquor other than on their licensed premises.

Extension of Licensing Hours: Three hundred and thirty four extensions have been granted to licence holders when dinners etc., were being held on their licensed premises, and in no case has any abuse of the privilege been recorded.

Proceedings against Licence Holders: On the 7th August last, a licence holder was pro­ceeded against in the Borough Police Court for permitting drunkenness upon his licensed premises and also for being drunk himself at the same time and place. He was fined £2 by the Magistrates for the first mentioned offence, and the second was dismissed. On the 20th March, a licensee was summoned for supplying intoxicating liquor during non-permitted hours. The case against him was proved, and he was dismissed under the First Offenders Act.

Visits by Police to Licensed Premises: All licensed premises have been periodically visited at irregular intervals by my Officers during the year, to see that they are being conducted in a satisfactory manner, and with the above exceptions, no adverse reports have been sub­mitted to me. The number of visits was 1,126.

Drunkenness: During the year ending 31st December, 1928, 34 persons (23 males and 11 females) were proceeded against for drunken­ness, of whom 23 were convicted and 11 dis­charged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded against 12 were residents of the Borough, 6 soldiers, 9 of no fixed abode and 7 non-residents. This is a decrease of 4 compared with the preceding year, 22 were convicted and 16 discharged.     

Comparative Return of Drunkenness: The following table shows a comparative return of drunkenness with Boroughs similarly situated to Folkestone: Folkestone, 37,535 population, No. proceeded against pee 1,000 population, .905; Scarborough, 46,179 and .82; Chester 40,802 and 1.59; Canterbury 23,737 and .46; Cambridge, 59,264 and .254; Oxford 57,036 and .92; Hove 47,415 and .337; Margate 46,480 and .47; Gravesend 31,171 and 2.6; Hastings 88,611 and 1.06; Ramsgate 36,561 and .46.

Permitted Hours: The permitted hours as allowed by the Licensing Act of 1921, have been fixed by the Licensing Justices for this Borough as under: Weekdays, from 10.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m., and 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.; Sundays, from 12 noon to 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 10     p.m. During the months of June, July, August and September, 1928, the extension of half an hour on weekdays from 10 p.m to 10.30 p.m was again allowed by the Bench, in and I am happy to say no ill effects have been observed.
           
Clubs: Seventeen Clubs where intoxicating liquor is supplied are registered under the Act. This is an increase of two as compared with the preceding year. The new Clubs are as follows: Folkestone Cricket Club, Sports Pavilion, Cheriton Road, registered 20th July, 1928; The Crescent Club, 9. Trinity Crescent, registered 30th November, 1928. The Folkestone Club was entered and inspected by Police on the 24th  November last, resulting in five members appearing to summons at the Police Court for consuming intoxicating liquor during non-permitted hours. Two were fined £1 each by the Justices and three dismissed. The Club Steward was also summoned for supplying the drink and was fined £5.

Hotels and Restaurants: Six hotels and one restaurant have authority under Section 3 of the Licensing Act, 1921to supply intoxicating liquor with meals, for one hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, namely: Metropole Hotel, Grand Hotel, Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel, Esplanade Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, and Central Cafe.

Music and Dancing: Thirty-four licences for music and dancing have been granted or renewed under the provisions of Part IV of the Public Health (Amendment) Act, 1890.

Billiards Licences: At the general annual licensing meeting on the 8th February, 1928, a billiards licence was granted in respect of the new premises above Messrs. Burton’s shop 24, Rendezvous Street. The Queen’s Hall, Tontine Street, also holds a licence for bil­liards. Supervision of these premises has been kept and no adverse reports have been received.

Conclusion: I should like to express my appreciation for the uniform kindness and fairness extended to me by the Bench during the year, and for the valuable assistance and advice of your Clerk, Mr. John Andrew, which is always unreservedly placed at my service.

 The Chairman said on behalf of the licensing justices he would like to congratulate the licensed victuallers on its favourable nature. They viewed with satisfaction the vigilance of the police in the number of visits they had paid. Last year he was able to say that there was not a conviction against a licence holder.

During the past year there had been one conviction, but on the whole they were of the opinion that the licensed houses had been very well conducted. They thought also there was some credit to the public and visi­tors who came there, and it was gratifying to know that the number of cases of drunken­ness were rather less than they were last year. According to the comparative state­ment given there were other towns in a more favourable position in that respect, but there were other towns which were worse. The Bench had been very liberal with regard to the extensions granted but they were glad to know that the privilege had not been abused. That, the Bench considered, was a credit to them. The Magistrates noticed that the number of visits paid by the Police exceeded by 123 the number in the previous year, and that showed that the officers had been carrying on their duties in a satisfactory way. They also noticed with considerable satisfaction the Chief Constable was able to say with reference to the summer time extension that no ill effects had been observed and the public had appreciated it. The disquieting feature of the report was with reference to the police visit to the Folkestone Club. The magistrates thought the Police were quite justified in their action. From what the officers discovered at twenty minutes to twelve on a Saturday night they were under the impression that what occurred on that occasion was not quite any­thing of a new feature. The Magistrates knew the difficulties the Police had in dealing with the Clubs, which were on the increase in that town as in other places, and they knew that they had not the same facilities as they had in licensed houses. The Magistrates relied upon the Chief Constable under the powers he had to do the best he could to see that the Clubs conformed to the laws and licensing regulations, so far as the hours were con­cerned, the same as licensed victuallers had. On the whole he, as Chairman, congratulated the Chief Constable on the satisfactory report.

The Chief Constable said he thanked the Chairman for what he had said. With refer­ence to the question of the magistrates grant­ing extensions, that matter was discussed at the Police Conference a short time ago. It was brought forward to see if some endeavour could not be made to obtain uniformity. He then maintained that it was a matter for the Magistrates themselves. He argued where they could trust the licensees that they should not be too strict. They had done so in that borough and he suggested that it might go on. He could pay a tribute to the licence holders who had given them very little trouble -in fact it was negligible, and they were conduct­ing their houses in the right way.

The Chairman said the licensing magistrates had gone into the matter and they had de­cided not to refer any of the existing licences on the ground of redundancy. Therefore all the existing licences would be again renewed that morning. The same hours as operated during last year will apply to the present year, the extra half hour in the four season months not being opposed.

Folkestone Herald 9-2-1929

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 6th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood and other Magistrates.

All licences were renewed by the Licensing Justices at the general annual licensing sessions for the Borough at the Town Hall on Wednesday.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) presented his annual report (for details see Folkestone Express).

The Chairman said that on behalf of the Licensing Justices he would like to express their congratulations at the very favourable nature of the report and their entire approval of the vigilance of the police. Last year he was able to congratulate the licensees that there had not been one conviction. This year there had been one conviction, but on the whole their opinion was that the licensed houses had been well conducted and he thought some credit was due to the public and the visitors who came to the town that the cases of drunkenness were less than they were last year by two cases. According to the table which the Chief Constable had read they had nothing in particular to congratulate themselves on. Some towns were in a more favourable position and other towns were worse off, but on the whole they thought it was a favourable report. The Bench had been somewhat liberal in granting extensions of the licensed hours for dinners and different functions and they were glad to know there had been no abuse of the privilege which the Bench had accorded. They noticed that the visits to licensed houses exceeded last year`s by 133, so that the Chief Constable`s officers had been doing their duty in a very satisfactory way. They also noticed with considerable satisfaction that the Chief Constable was able to say with reference to the summertime extensions that no ill effects had been observed, and they hoped they would be able to continue to enjoy that extension without any trouble.

“A disquieting feature of the report” Alderman Wood continued “is with reference to the visit to the Folkestone Club. We think you were quite right in the action you took, but on behalf of the Licensing Magistrates, from what your officers discovered going on in the Club at 20 minutes to 12 on a Saturday night – which I am not going into in detail – I may say we are under the impression that what existed on that occasion was not quite anything of a new feature. We know the difficulties you have in dealing with clubs, which are on the increase in this town as in other places – that you have not the same facilities of supervision that you have with the licensed houses – but we still rely on you under the powers you have to do the best you can to see that the clubs conform to the law and to the licensing hours which the licensed victuallers have to conform to. On the whole I congratulate you on behalf of the Magistrates on the satisfactory report which you are able to place before them”.

The Chief Constable thanked Alderman Wood for his words and said that with reference to extensions, at a conference of Chief Constables about a fortnight ago this matter was brought up and some endeavour was made to obtain uniformity in the different boroughs. He maintained that it was a matter entirely for the Magistrates and no borough need interfere in any way whatever where they found they could trust the licensees on special occasions as they had done in this borough without any bad effects whatever.

“I think” Mr. Beesley added, “that I ought to pay a tribute to our licensees inasmuch as they give us very little trouble. It is negligible. They are conducting their houses in the right spirit and give no trouble”.

The Chairman announced that they had decided not to refer any of the existing licences to the Quarter Sessions on the ground of redundancy, but that all existing licences would be again renewed.
 

 


 


 
 

 

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