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Friday, 4 September 2015

Globe (2) 1980s



Folkestone Herald 15-3-1980

Canterbury Crown Court

Two barmaids accused of stealing from the till of the Folkestone pub where they worked, were found Not Guilty when a judge stopped their trial on Tuesday. Julie Willis, 22, from The Deerlngs, Lydd, and Vicky Edwards, 21, formerly of Pilgrim Spring, Folkestone and now living at Coronation Street, Blackpool, had denied stealing £217 from the Globe in The Bayle.

The trial, at Canterbury Crown Court, had started with the Globe's landlord, Mr. Ronald Letts, giving evi­dence of how he found deficiencies in his bar takings. Mr. Letts said he kept a daily record of his takings and at the end of the week transferred the figures into an account book.

But after he had been giving evi­dence for some time, the landlord told the court that his son, then aged 15, sometimes helped with the bookwork and entered figures into the account book. It was then that Judge Margaret Cosgrave stopped the trial and direc­ted the jury to find Willis and Ed­wards Not Guilty.

She explained to the jury “The case against these defendants must depend upon the accuracy with which figures were taken down from the till roll into the day cash book and from that into the accounts. And in view of the evidence which you heard to the effect that the son had made all the entries into the day book, there is no safe evidence on which I can ask you as a jury to convict either defendant. I am therefore going to direct you to enter verdicts of Not Guilty on all counts against each defendant”, she said.           

After the jury had returned the Not Guilty verdicts, Judge Cosgrave discharged Willis and Edwards. The charges had alleged that the defendants jointly stole £217 belonging to Mr. Letts, between June 25 and July 26, 1977. Then, separately, Willis and Edwards were each charged with four thefts of unspecified sums of money from Mr. Letts during the same period. These were alternative charges to the joint allegation, Mr David Voelcker, prosecuting, had explained to the jury, and the total amount involved was £217.

Folkestone Herald 13-6-1981

Local News

About £1,000 is believed to have been stolen from the Globe public house during a break-in on Tuesday night. Thieves broke into the building in The Bayle, Folkestone, and forced open a safe, taking the contents. Landlord, Mr. Ron Letts, refused to comment on the raid.
 
South Kent Gazette 5-8-1981

Local News

A youth who stole £1,107 in three burglaries in Folkestone may be sent to Borstal.

A 15-year-old admitted three accusations of burglary at Folkestone Juvenile Court last Monday and was sent to Crown Court for sentence, with a recommendation for Borstal training. A fourth accusation, of burglary at the Ambassador Hotel on The Leas, was denied, and this was adjourned.

Inspector Ron Young said the boy broke into The Globe pub, in The Bayle, took the keys from the pocket of the publican, Mr. Ron Letts, while he was sleeping, and opened a safe containing £1,000. Other people were implicated in the burglary, but so far no-one else has been apprehended. The Folkestone boy stole another £17 from chartered accountants in Westcliffe Gardens and broke into a hut on the site of the new Sainsbury`s supermarket in Wellington Gardens. With additional claims for stolen cigarettes, a gold watch and chain from Mr. Letts, there is a total compensation claim of £2,676, said Mr. Young. The boy has previous find­ings of guilt for offences earlier this year.

Defending, Mrs Susan Watler said that six weeks in a detention centre and a supervision order had failed to stop the boy committing further offences. He is beyond his parents’ control and magistrates should consider putting him under a care order in a secure home. Because he is easily influenced by older people, it might have a bad effect if he was sent to Borstal, she said.

Magistrates ordered the boy to be held in custody until his Crown Court sentencing to prevent him committing further offences.
 

Folkestone Herald 22-8-1981

Local News

While publican Ron Letts slept a 15-year-old burglar took the key to his safe from his trousers pocket. The young villain netted £1,000, coins and jewellery in the raid on the Globe pub in The Bayle, Folkestone. But on Monday the youth was sent to borstal for breaking into the Globe and two other crimes.

Sentencing him, Judge Thomas Edie said “I am sorry to say that at the age of 15 you have become an accomplished burglar and you are in need of discipline and training”.

The youth had been sent to Maidstone Crown Court after admitting the pub break-in, burgling a chartered accountant`s, stealing £17, and entering a building hut, intending to steal.

Prosecuting, Miss Gill Hammerton said he broke in­to the accountant’s on May 31, taking money from a desk and a collection box for the blind.

Later the same evening police saw him climb over a wall of the Sainsbury’s build­ing site in Folkestone. Questioned later that night he admitted both of­fences. He was bailed, but on June 9 broke into the pub during the middle of the night. Arrested on June 30, he told police older youths had also been involved in the raids at the pub and the building site.

Folkestone Herald 2-9-1983

Local News

A modern pizza restaurant could replace Folkestone`s Guildhall pub. Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited have submitted a planning application to Shepway District Council. A spokesman said if the company gets the go-ahead it will preserve the character of the pub when installing oak booths and tables. The company has 26 Pizza Huts in London and is searching for new sites all over the country. It is not a fast food chain but a full service restaurant which caters for 20-year-olds to families with young children, said the spokesman.

But the plans mean that landlady Mrs. Maude Lewis and her daughter Eileen will have to leave the Guildhall`s bar and move to the nearby Globe in The Bayle, Folkestone. The pair were told about a month ago that after 31 years they would have to move. The pub`s brewery is Whitbread, of which Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited is a subsidiary. “It was quite a shock”, said Eileen, but added “If it had to happen at least we are lucky enough to go to The Globe”.

The Globe`s present landlord, Mr. Ron Letts, is retiring in September.
 

Folkestone Herald 30-9-1983

Local News

After 27 years as landlords of the Globe pub, Ron and Barbara Letts are set to enjoy life on the other side of the bar. The couple bade farewell to their regulars at a retirement party on Monday but said they would more than likely pop back now and then. It was a hectic day as Ron and Barbara prepared to move out and new landladies Miss Eileen Lewis and her mother Mrs. Maude Lewis, of the Guildhall Hotel, Folkestone, took over. Neither Ron nor Barbara were sorry to leave the pub in The Bayle, Folkestone, and said they were looking forward to doing nothing. The couple moved to a flat in Guildhall Street. A decanter and six glasses was presented by Mr. John Norton, area manager with Whitbread Fremlins.

The Guildhall Hotel is closing, but a company called Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited has submitted a planning application to Shepway District Council for permission to turn the pub into a modern pizza house.



Photo from Folkestone Herald
 
Folkestone Herald 3-2-1984

Local News

The towels have gone up over a century of pub history as regulars supped their last pint and turned their eyes to watering holes anew. After more years than the most devout regular cares to remember the proprietors of the Guildhall in Folkestone have sounded the final bell on the old pub, and what was once the delight of the drinking classes is to be turned into a licensed pizzeria.

Pubs may come and fads may go, but British landladies live on forever and although it`s time at the Guildhall the licensee Mrs. Maud Lewis will continue serving pints at The Globe in The Bayle, assisting her daughter Eileen, who is licensee there. “I have been here 32 yeras and there have been some good times. It`s sad the old place will not be as it was but I shall be helping my daughter at The Globe and I expect to see many old friends there”, said Maud who is now 73.

On Friday Mr. John Kidson, managing director of Whitbread Fremlins, presented Maud with a cut glass decanter and glasses to mark her long service at the Guildhall. During the lunchtime ceremony she was also presented with a colour television, given as a mark of appreciation by Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers` Association and Ladies` Auxiliary. Mr. Kidson praised the 50 years of service Maud had given to the licensed trade and in particular to her 32 years behind the bar of the Guildhall.

But the highest praise of all came from locals who thronged the bar on Friday and also attended a wake on Sunday evening. "I have been coming in here ever since Maud took over. Now Maud is going to help out over at The Globe I shall be going over there”, said Mrs. Audrey Brandon. who works at a nearby fur­niture store. “It’s another landmark gone but at least we shall be able to preserve some of the pub’s atmosphere. It is the people that make that”.

Folkestone Herald 24-2-1984

Local News

Non, nein, or however you want to put it, Shepway drinkers have given the thumbs-down to Common Market tinkering with the price of a pint. Brussels bureaucrats have said that Britain discriminates against wine in favour of beer and have asked for a harmonisation of prices. But with one eye on the budget, drinkers and licensees alike suspect that is 1984 doublespeak for a thumping increase in the price of a pint.

First into the counter-attack against whatever Whitehall and Brussels have in mind is Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers` Association, which says the price of a pint is already too high, and if any adjustment is to be made, wine costs should be cut. “I`ve been here 15 years, and in that time I have seen the price of a pint of beer double inside five years and the number of customers fall off” said Vic Batten, Chairman of the association, and innkeeper at the Jubilee on The Stade, Folkestone. “In January, 1979, mild was 30p a pint, and out two bitters 34p and 38p. A pint of mild now costs 66p and the bitters 72p and 74p respectively. You can go into any pub in the area and they will tell you the same thing, and it amounts to this – the higher the price of a pint, the more the average person is put off from visiting their local. The ridiculous thing is that in this country we aret axed more heavily on drink than in any other country in the Common Market with the exception of the Irish Republic”.

As the lounge bar of the Jubilee cleared at the end of the lunchtime session Mr. Batten`s grandson, three-and-a-half months old Thomas came down with his mum to see what was going on. Rapid calculations revealed that, assuming prices rise on the current scale, Thomas will be tipping back pints at more than £12 a time – if there are any pubs open by the time he is 20.

One of the last customers to leave was fellow-publican and ex-journalist, Brian Potter, now licensee at the Clarendon in Tontine Street, Folkestone. Said Brian between mouthfuls of ale “If nobody says or does anything then I reckon they`ll get away with pegging wine at the price it is and harmonising the prices by jacking up the price of a pint. What Vic says is dead right. The average bloke is beginning to realise the cost of a pint of beer has already been increased out of all proportion. I mean, have your wages doubled in the last five years?”

Opinions of the same sort were voiced by Mr. Danny McNeill, late of Balloch, Scotland, and now not-unacquainted with the bar of the Globe in Folkestone`s Bayle. “If the people who fixed the prices could stand in here and listen to what people are saying, their ears would burn”, he said. “There’s definitely some­thing wrong with the pricing when you can get a super strong lager in Scotland for less than 70p. It seems to me that the brewers and the government are pricing them­selves out of a good thing”.

Folkestone Herald 12-9-1986

Local News

The funeral service of Folkestone’s most famous former pub landlady, Maud Lewis, took place on Wed­nesday. Maud - who died last week aged 75 - was landlady at the old Guild­hall pub, until it closed in 1984, for 32 years. For much of the last two years of her life she helped her daughter Eileen at the Globe on The Bayle. In all, she gave over 50 years` service to the licensed trade. When she retired from the Guild­hall, Maud received many gifts and presentations from grateful regulars and friends. Members of the Guildhall Street Traders’ Association gave her an inscribed powder compact and the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers Association presented a colour television. She built up a solid following during her time at the pub. As one regular said when the Guildhall closed “I have been coming here ever since Maud took over. Now she is going to the Globe I shall be going over there. It is people that make a pub’s atmosphere”. Maud was buried at Herne Bay following a funeral service at Folke­stone Parish Church.

Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 31-7-1987
 

Local News

Folkestone now has two Guildhalls. One, the historic former Town Hall – the other, the town`s newest pub. The Globe public house in The Bayle has been renamed The Guildhall. In a brief and very damp xceremony the Mayor, Kelland Bowden, unveiled the new Guildhall sign to the cheers of revellers and a trumpeter, before going upstairs to make a closer inspection of the sign.

The mother of landlady Eileen Lewis, Maud, used to run the old Guildhall pub, in Guildhall Street, which is now a Pizza Hut restaurant.

Mr. Bowden said “I think it is appropriate that the name of the old pub should follow Eileen. I used to use the old pub when I was young”.

Landlady Eileen said “It`s a dream come true to have the Guildhall back. I`m just pleased the opening went without a hitch. I was sure that the curtain was going to get stuck on the sign”.

Folkestone Herald 7-8-1987

Letter

I was most interested to read your report on the renaming of the Globe, and in particular reference to “the town`s newest pub”.

Whilst I appreciate Eileen Lewis` nostalgia for the old Guildhall which she and her mother ran admirably for many years, I do feel that the end result is wrong. I, like many others, regret the passing of the Guildhall, but cannot help but feel that it would be better to have put the Globe on the map, so to speak, which I am sure Eileen was capable of. Call it what you will, it will always be the Globe, a much older “house” than the Guildhall was, and can never be the Guildhall.

The earliest reference to the Guildhall is in August, 1870, when the then occupant Mr. Andrews applied for a spirit licence, and it was quoted in evidence that he had occupied the house for two years without complaint, thus giving us 1868 as the earliest known date for the Guildhall. The Globe, however, could boast a much older history. The earliest reference to it is in 1855, and two years later there is reference to the licence being transferred to Sarah Hambrook from Thomas Maycock. This Mr. Maycock ran the Globe as a wine and spirit merchant, but had a room referred to as the public room, where drink could be consumed on the premises (this can be verified), and there is evidence that he had done so since 1848, when the premises were erected. Incidentally, there are still descendants of Mr. Maycock living in Folkestone today. Indeed, Dr. C.H. Bishop states that the Globe is probably built on the site of a much older inn.

So, to quote a reference else­where, it was felt by Eileen’s “locals” that “a slice of history” had been lost with the closure of the Guildhall, a much older “slice of history” has been lost with the passing of the name of the Globe.

E. D. Rooney,
Mead Road,
Folkestone.


Photo from Folkestone Herald (Circa 1919)




Folkestone Herald 28-8-1987

Local News

The recent renaming of the Globe public house in Folkestone has roused a host of fond memories for one woman – she was born there. Joan Mann, of Stanley Road, Cheriton, came kicking and screaming into the world shortly after the First World War.

Her grandfather, Alfred Fox, was the licen­see of the 19th Century pub, now named the Guildhall, shortly after the turn of the century, and remained the pub’s landlord through the First World War. Mrs. Mann said “I remember my grand­father as a jolly old man, and very popular in the pub. He was a teetotaller and it was only after his retirement in the early 20’s that he touched a drop or two of brandy. Mrs. Mann supplied us with the photograph showing regulars and staff outside the old pub and what a smart lot they are. Eagle-eyed readers might spot the little white dog in the background.
 



 
 
 

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