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Saturday, 3 May 2014

Black Bull 1920 - 1924




Folkestone Express 25-11-1922

Local News

The following transfer of licence was granted at the Folkestone Police Court on Wednesday morning: The Black Bull Hotel, from Mrs. Cavey to Mr Albert Edward Springate, Workington.

Folkestone Herald 25-11-1922

Local News

At the Folkestone Police Court on Tuesday (Mr. G.I. Swoffer in the chair), the licence of the Black Bull Hotel was transferred from Mrs. Cavey to Mr. Albert Edward Springate.

Folkestone Express 12-1-1924

Local News

At the Police Court on Wednesday morning, the following transfer of licence was granted: Black Bull Hotel, from Mr. Springate to Mr. William G. Wilson, St. Albans.

Folkestone Herald 12-1-1924

Local News

On Wednesday the Licensing Justices approved the transfer of the licence of the Black Bull Hotel from Mr. A.E. Springate to Mr. W.G. Wilson.

Folkestone Herald 26-4-1924

Local News

At the Folkestone Police Court on Friday the Black Bull Hotel was granted an extension of licence for one hour on Wednesday next on the occasion of a musical evening by the R.A.O.B.


Folkestone Express 6-9-1924

Friday, August 29th: Before Mr. G.I. Swoffer and other Magistrates.

Frank Waller was summoned for assaulting Mrs. Alice Daisy McElroy, and he pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. H.W. Watts appeared to prosecute.

Mrs. McElroy, 26, Athelstan Road, said that on Saturday last she was outside the Black Bull Hotel at 10.05 with her mother. Defendant was there with another man, and they were using very bad language, and she said “Will you moderate your language?” Waller never said anything, but hit her a violent blow in the mouth with his fist.

Mr. Watts: What kind of a blow was it?

Mrs. McElroy: I cannot tell you. All I know, I got ut.

Complainant said four teeth were knocked out by the blow. She was bleeding, and her mouth was still bruised. She fell down. She had her purse in her hand. There was 30s. in the purse, and it was gone when she got up. Someone went to her assistance, and took her to the police station. She was bleeding when she got to the police station.

By the Clerk: She had been in the Black Bull Hotel, but did not see defendant there. She only received one blow, and fell at once. She lost her senses, and had to be assisted to her feet. She had not said anything to Waller before he struck her.

Cross-examined by Waller: She did not go up to him, and she did not scratch his face. She was never near him. She got the blow because he ran at her. She was not the worse for drink, she had only had two. She never said anything about his daughters.

Ernest Crumby, brother-in-law of the complainant, 6, Mead Road, said he was with her on Saturday night outside the Black Bull Hotel, and she was sober. Waller used bad language, and said he was not frightened of the best man who came out of the bar, and would take them across the field and fight them for 5s. or £5. Mrs. McElroy asked Waller to moderate his language, and he ran after her, and knocked her down.

Cross-examined by defendant: He picked defendant up off the ground. He did not go down home with Waller.

By the Clerk: He could not say how Waller got on the ground.

Stephen Taylor, 6, Mead Road, said when he was in his back yard he heard a woman screaming, and on going up the road he saw Mrs. Crumby holding Mrs. McElroy up. He brought Mrs. McElroy to the police station. She was sober.

Cross-examined by defendant: He did not see him at the Black Bull Hotel on Saturday night, because he was not there.

Defendant said he went up to the Black Bull Hotel from the Market, and he had a few goods in his hand that he had not sold. He found he was a little too late, and stood talking to Mr. Scamp, who had gone away hopping. Mr. Scamp said “Frank, I owe you 5s., and I will pay you”. He replied “That is right, I could do with it”. Scamp said he was going away hopping, and they stood talking, and then the woman started swearing, and calling him over, and he had never spoken to her in his life. He heard his three girls` names mentioned, and be told her to be off. She slipped in front of him, and he pushed her, and she spun round and fell. The two brothers and father rolled into him left and right, and hit him on the back of the head with a lump of wood. He got up and “dropped” the younger brother of the two on the ground. He went down home, and left the others up there. He told his girls about it, and two of them went up there, but when they got there there was no-one there. He stood in self-defence, as he was not a man who kicked up a row.

Mrs. McElroy was summoned for assaulting Frank Waller.

Waller gave similar evidence to his statement above, and said she scratched him down the face. The woman was completely drunk.

Cross-examined by Mr. Watts: He did not strike Mrs. McElroy. He did not see her face was bruised. Any drunken woman was liable to fall on her face and smash it. He was there when she was lying on the ground.

Mr. Watts: Did she lay down on the ground of her own account?

Waller: No, I pushed her down.

Waller said he could not see any witnesses. They had gone off hopping from what he could see about them. He had wired for them, but they had not turned up.

The Chairman said the case against Mrs. McElroy would be dismissed, and the one against Waller was proved.

The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) said there were thirteen convictions against Waller, including five for assault, the last one being in 1920, when he was fined £1.

The Magistrates having retired, the Chairman said it was a very serious charge, and a ver brutal assault, and Waller would go to prison for one month`s hard labour.

Folkestone Herald 6-9-1924

Friday, August 29th: Before Mr. G.I. Swoffer and other Magistrates.

Frank Waller was summoned for assaulting Mrs. Alice Daisy McElroy.

Mr. H.W. Watts appeared for the complainant, who said that on the previous Saturday at 10.05 p.m. she was outside the Black Bull. Defendant and another man were using violent language, and witness asked them to moderate it. Waller struck her on the mouth, knocking out four teeth and sending her to the ground. Her mouth bled, and it was still bruised. The purse which she had in her hand was lost when she got up.

By defendant: She did not scratch his face. She was not the worse for drink.

Ernest Crumby, of 6, Mead Road, brother-in-law of the last witness, corroborated. Cross-examined by defendant, he said that he picked Waller off the ground when he tripped.

Stephen Taylor, of Mead Road, also gave evidence.

Defendant stated that he went to the Black Bull to sell some goods. He was talking to a Mr. Scamp, when Mrs. McElroy started “calling him over”. She slipped in front of the two of them, and he pushed her away, and down she went. He was hit on the back of the head with a piece of timber.

A cross-summons against Mrs. McElroy for assaulting Waller was then heard.

Waller repeated his previous statement and said that Mrs. McElroy told him that she “would give him something”. She “tore him down the face” and he pushed her away. She was completely drunk, and she slipped to the ground.

By Mr. Watts: He pushed her down.

The Bench dismissed the case against Mrs. McElroy, but held that the summons against Waller was proved.

The Chief Constable stated that there were thirteen previous convictions against defendant, five of which were for assault. They were minor offences.

The Magistrates considered the assault a very brutal one, and sentenced Waller to one month`s hard labour.
 

 
 
 
 

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