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Saturday, 22 March 2014

Wellington 1915 - 1919



Folkestone Express 18-11-1916

Local News

On Monday at the Police Court the licence of the Wellington Tavern was transferred to Mr. J. Salmon, late licence holder of the Black Horse, Swingfield.

Folkestone Herald 24-2-1917

Friday, February 23rd: Before Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Councillor G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Councillor A. Stace, Councillor C.Ed. Mumford, and the Rev. H. Epworth Thompson.

John Salmon, licensee of the Wellington public house, was summoned for serving beer to a soldier at Folkestone for embarkation on February 18th. Mr. H.J. Myers represented defendant, who pleaded Not Guilty.

Lieut. Albert C. Holmes, in charge of the Canadian Military Police, said that at 7.45 on the evening of February 18th he went into the Wellington, in Beach Street, and saw a soldier of the King`s Yorks Light Infantry, to whom defendant was handing a glass of beer. The soldier said, when questioned, that he was an overseas man, and had not been asked by the landlord as to whether he was an overseas man or not. Witness handed the soldier over to the picket, and told the landlord it would mean prosecution, and possibly his house being put out of bounds. Defendant said he had asked some troops if they were overseas, and if they said they were not, he could not help it. Witness told him there was no difficulty in telling an overseas man.

By Mr. Myers: There was a picket close to the Wellington. It was not possible for the picket to prevent overseas men going into bars. On this evening witness went into several hotels, probably a dozen, and when he found in the bar overseas men who said they had been questioned and not served by the publican, he did not report the publican. An overseas Imperial soldier would not look like a Canadian; his collar was different, his khaki was a different shade, and the badges were different.

Lieut. Crowther said the soldier was an overseas man.

Defendant, on oath, said he had held the licence since November 15th last year. He always asked soldiers if they were men for overseas, and, if so, they were not served. Owing to the shading of the lights he was not able to distinguish the uniform of soldiers from his own side of the bar. Witness could not exactly identify the man concerned in the summons, but he asked every soldier he served whether he was an overseas man.

By the Magistrates` Clerk: The only means he had of telling whether a man was overseas was that he asked them.

Mr. Andrew: And you are satisfied with that? – Yes.

Has any man ever told you he was an overseas man? – Yes, and I have refused to serve them.

Mrs. Lily Salmon, wife of the defendant, said on this evening she repeatedly told the men: If any of you are for overseas, I can`t serve you.

Mr. Myers: Have any of the men told you they are overseas? – No, they don`t do so if they want a drink. (Laughter)

Continuing, witness said the men were all in khaki, and she could not tell one from another. She knew a Canadian by his buttons and badges. She served the man in question with one pint, which he was drinking when Lieut. Holmes came in. The soldier told Lieut. Holmes that witness had asked him if he was overseas, and he had said “No”.

By the Magistrates` Clerk: She always took the men`s words. An Englishman`s word was his bond.

The Clerk: Oh, is it?

By the Chief Constable: Witness knew the soldier was not a Canadian, and that was why she asked him if he was an overseas man.

Jas. Small, a cutler, of New Bridge Street, said he was in the bar and heard the troops asked as they came in if they were overseas men. All the men said they were not.

Geo. Seymour, marine store dealer, 16, Radnor Street, gave similar evidence.

Mr. Myers submitted that defendant and his wife were not experienced in the licensed trade. If the Bench were satisfied that the defendant took precautions, and was told by the soldiers they were not for overseas, then the case should be dismissed.

Defendant was fined £5, the Chairman remarking that the Bench had very grave doubts whether defendant was a proper man to hold a licence.

Folkestone Express 3-3-1917

Local News

The licensees of Folkestone find themselves face to face with an exceedingly difficult problem.

Under the Defence of the Realm Regulations, an Order made by the Competent Military Authority absolutely forbids the serving of intoxicating drink to “Overseas” troops. While the licensees are keenly anxious to carry out the law and to assist the Military in every possible way, it would appear that infractions of the Order occur without the knowledge, and certainly without the consent, of those engaged in the trade, through, it is feared, the duplicity of the soldiers themselves. To any such breach of the Regulation there seems to be no defence. It is no answer to say that inquiries were made of the men. Total prohibition so far as “Overseas” troops are concerned, reigns. Hence the difficulty.

Cases arising out of this matter engaged the attention of the Folkestone Justices on Friday. Mr. G.I. Swoffer presided, the other Magistrates present being Councillors Boyd, Stace and Harrison, and the Rev. Epworth Thompson.

John Salmon, of the Wellington, Beach Street, was summoned for selling intoxicating drink to an “Overseas” soldier. Mr. H.J. Myers defended.

Lieut. Holmes said on the evening of February 18th, about 7.45, he went into the beerhouse and there saw a soldier being handed a glass of beer across the bar. On being questioned, the soldier said he was an “Overseas” man. Asked if he had been questioned on this point in the house, he replied “No”. Later, witness saw the defendant, and said it would probably mean prosecution and the house being placed “out of bounds”. He said he had asked some troops if they were “Overseas”, and further remarked that he could not help it if they said they were not; he could not tell them.

By Mr. Myers: It was not possible for the picket to prevent “Overseas” men going into the premises. He contended that it was easy for the licensees to tell the “Overseas” men by reason of them wearing a different shade of khaki, the double collar, and the badge. The lights in the bar were not particularly shaded, and the place was not crowded, there being eight or nine there.

Serrgt. Frank Muir, of the Military Police, who entered the Wellington with Lieut. Holmes, corroborated. He mentioned that the soldier said he had been served twice – once by the barmaid and once by the “publican”, and that he had not been asked whether he was “Overseas”.

Lieut. Crowther gave evidence showing that the soldier was an “Overseas” man.

Defendant, in the witness box, declared that they always asked soldiers if they were for “Overseas” because, if so, they could not be served. From behind the bar, witness was not able to distinguish the uniforms of the various men because it was too dark. He noticed no soldier wearing shoulder straps as described by the previous witnesses.

Mr. Myers: Now, if you had known this man was for “Overseas”, would you have served him with intoxicating drink or allow him to be served?

Defendant: No.

The Chief Constable: You don`t deny this man was served?

Defendant: I don`t deny it.

Mrs. Salmon, wife of the licensee, said she remarked to the soldiers “If any of you boys are for “Overseas” I cannot serve you.

Mr. Myers: Have you ever been told by a soldier that he was for “Overseas”?

Witness: They don`t tell us that if they want a drink. (Laughter)

Did you refuse any “Overseas” men that night? – Ever so many went away. As soon as they saw the military police they were off.

She heard the soldier say to Lieut. Holmes “I was asked if I was for “Overseas” and I said “No””.

The Clerk: You ask them the question and take their word.

Witness: An Englishman`s word is his bond.

By the Chief Constable: She knew the soldier was not a Canadian, and that was why she particularly asked if he was “Overseas”.

James Small, a cutler, declared that the landlord and his wife asked the men as they came in if they were “Overseas” troops.

George Seymour, marine store dealer, of Radnor Street, was another witness for the defence.

The Bench thought it was a bad case, and imposed a fine of £5.

Folkestone Express 9-2-1918

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, February 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, A. Stace and H. Kirke, Colonel Owen and the Rev. Epworth Thompson.

Mr. H. Reeve, the Chief Constable, read his annual report, as follows: I have the honour to report that there are within your jurisdiction 113 places licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor by retail, viz.: Full licences 70, beer on 7, beer off 6, beer and spirit dealers 15, grocers, etc. off 6, confectioners wine on 3, chemists wine off 6, a total of 113. This gives an average according to the Census of 1911 of one licence to every 296 persons, or one on licence to every 435 persons. As compared with last year this is a reduction of two licences, one full licence and one grocer`s off licence, the former being the Clarence Inn, Dover Road, which was closed after the payment of compensation on 29th September last, and the other the grocer`s wine and spirit off licence to the premises of Messrs. Lipton Ltd., which was not renewed at the last annual meeting. During the year 12 of the licences have been transferred. For the year ended 31st December last, 30 persons (19 males and 11 females) were proceeded against for drunkenness, of whom 20 were convicted and 10 dismissed. Of those proceeded against, 13 were residents of the borough, 9 residents of other districts, 5 members of the Naval or Military forces, and 3 persons of no fixed abode. In the preceding year 55 persons (28 males and 27 females) were proceeded against, of whom 32 were convicted and 23 discharged. Nine summonses have been taken out against licence holders or their servants for offences on licensed premises. Six were convicted and three dismissed. Five of the convictions were for supplying intoxicating liquor to overseas members of His Majesty`s Forces, contrary to Article 40 of the Defence of the Realm Regulations. The other conviction was for a breach of the No Treating Order made by the Liquor Control Board. Nine clubs where intoxicating liquor is supplied are registered under the Act. There are 16 places licensed for music and dancing, 4 for music only, and 1 for public billiard playing. The Order of the Liquor Control Board restricting the hours for sale and supply of intoxicating liquors to 4½ hours each weekday and 4 hours on Sundays is still in force. I offer no objection to the renewal of any of the present licences on the ground of misconduct, the houses generally being conducted in a satisfactory manner.

The Chairman said the number of cases of drunkenness, 30, was a very small number.

The Chief Constable: It is the smallest on record.

Councillor Stace said it was probably owing to the restricted hours.

The Chief Constable: Probably so.

The Chairman said that report was very satisfactory. With regard to the convictions of licensed houses, he noticed that five convictions were in respect of supplying overseas soldiers. There was no doubt the licence holders had a great difficulty in regard to that matter, but those regulations had to be carried out, and the Magistrates hoped they would be strictly adhered to. All the licences would be renewed, with the exception of the Queen`s Hotel and the Wellington, which would be adjourned until the adjourned sessions.

The adjourned sessions were fixed for Wednesday, March 6th.

Folkestone Herald 9-2-1918

Annual Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. R.J. Fynmore, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Councillor G. Boyd, Colonel G.P. Owen, Councillor E. Stace, Mr. H. Kirke, and the Rev. H. Epworth Thompson.

The Chief Constable presented his annual report (for details see Folkestone Express).

The Chairman observed that the number of cases of drunkenness was few compared with any previous year, a matter upon which all were to be congratulated. There were some offences against licence holders for supplying overseas soldiers, but there was no doubt whatever licensees had very great difficulty in the matter. Mr. Ward added that the whole of the licences would be renewed, with the exception of those of the Queen`s Hotel and the Wellington, which would be considered at the adjourned sessions. 
  

The adjourned licensing meeting was fixed for 6th March.

Folkestone Express 9-3-1918


Adjourned Licensing Sessions

Wednesday, March 6th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, A. Stace and H. Kirke, Colonel Owen and the Rev. H. Epworth Thompson.

The Clerk (Mr. Andrew) said there were several licences to come before the Magistrates for really automatic renewal. The Queen`s Hotel and the Wellington beerhouse were referred from the annual sessions, since when the following licences had been transferred; The Price Albert, the Shakespeare, the True Briton, and the Harbour Inn. The licences were granted.
 
 

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