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Friday 7 June 2013

West Cliff Shades 1900s



Folkestone Express 11-1-1902

Wednesday, January 8th: Before W.G. Herbert, C.J. Pursey, and G.I. Swoffer Esqs.

Frank Epps, a cabman, denied that he left his horse and cart unattended at 10.30 p.m. on the 1st inst. in Christ Church Road.

P.C. Thomas Wm. Allen said on the 1st inst., about 10.35 p.m., he saw a horse and carriage unattended opposite the West Cliff Shades in Christ Church Road. He kept observation, and it was unattended for 20 minutes, at the end of which time the defendant came out of the private bar of the public house. When informed, the defendant said “If you give me another chance I won`t do it again”.

Corporal Arthur Epps and Corporal Wm. Wilson, both of the 1st Dragoons, who were in the public house, testified that as it was a very wet night the cabman stood in the doorway. They did not leave the theatre till twenty five minutes to eleven and did not arrive at the public house till quarter to eleven, which made it impossible for them to be there twenty minutes, as the house closed at eleven.

The Constable here said he timed the defendant by the Christ Church clock.

After a short consultation, the Bench said they would give the defendant the benefit of the doubt, and they discharged him.

Folkestone Express 3-1-1903

Friday, January 2nd: Before Aldermen Penfold, Spurgen, and Vaughan.

Andrew Wilson was charged with begging.

Detective Burniston said from information received he went to West Cliff Shades on Christmas Eve, where he saw prisoner, and followed him to Ingles Road, where he called at a house and handed in a letter for the mistress of the house, who sent out 6d. to him. Witness then arrested prisoner, who became very violent.

The letter was read by the Bench, and it concluded by wishing the person to whom it was addressed the compliments of the season, which was characterised by one of the Magistrates as the height of impudence. Two other similar documents were found in the prisoner`s possession, and Superintendent Reeve said the man had done no work for months.

Prisoner was sentenced to seven days` hard labour.
 
Folkestone Chronicle 16-5-1903

Wednesday, May 13th: Before Lieut. Colonel Fynmore and Lieut. Col. Westropp.

The licence of the West Cliff Shades was temporarily transferred from Frederick Schutz to Walter Barker.

Folkestone Express 16-5-1903

Wednesday, May 13th: Before Lieut. Col. Fynmore and Lieut. Col. Westropp.

A temporary transfer was granted to Walter Barker, of the West Cliff Shades, the outgoing tenant being Frederick Schulz.

Folkestone Herald 16-5-1903

Wednesday, May 13th: Before Lieut Colonels Fynmore and Westropp.

The following temporary transfer of licences was granted: The West Cliff Shades from Frederick Schutz to Walter Barker.
 
Folkestone Chronicle 30-5-1903

Wednesday, May 27th: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Lieut. Col. Westropp, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Colonel Fynmore, and Messrs. W.G. Herbert, G.I. Swoffer, E.T. Ward, and T.J. Vaughan.

The licence of the West Cliff Shades was transferred from Walter Schutz to Fredk. Henry Parker. 

Folkestone Express 30-5-1903

Wednesday, May 27th: Before Alderman Vaughan, Lieut. Colonels Westropp, Fynmore and Hamilton, G.I. Swoffer, W. Wightwick, E.T. Ward, and W.G. Herbert Esqs.

The following transfer was granted: The West Cliff Shades from Frederick Schulz to Walter Herbert Barker

Folkestone Herald 30-5-1903

Wednesday, May 27th: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Alderman T.J. Vaughan, Lieut. Colonels Westropp, Hamilton, and Fynmore, Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Pledge, and G.I. Swoffer.

The following temporary transfer was confirmed by the Bench: West Cliff Shades, from Mr. F. Schultz to Mr. W.H. Park (sic);  
 
Folkestone Herald 3-10-1903

Inquest

Yesterday afternoon the Borough Coroner, Mr. G.W. Haines, conducted an inquiry at the Town Hall respecting the circumstances attending the death of John Doherty, an out-porter.

Francis Baker, barman at the West Cliff Shades, identified the body as that of John Doherty. The deceased had said lately that he was 65 years of age. He had no home, and slept where he could. Doherty was an old soldier, having served in several campaigns. He was the possessor of several medals. Witness had never known him draw a pension, although he had been in the Queen`s Bays, 4th Hussars, and the “Buffs” Militia. Very often witness had supplied Doherty with a meal. On Thursday, about a quarter past one, he came to the Shades, and said that he was hungry. Witness replied that if he kept himself quiet he should have a dinner. He was quite sober, but was inclined to be noisy. He had two-pennyworth of rum, but he did not drink it. Half an hour later witness gave him a dinner, consisting of some cabbage, potatoes, liver and bacon, and the deceased went into another room to eat it. Ten minutes afterwards witness was called to the yard by a man named Johnson, who said “There is something the matter with Jimmy. I do not like the look of him”. Witness went into the yard and saw the old porter lying there quite still. A doctor was sent for. Subsequently witness ascertained that Doherty had not eaten much of the repast.

Thomas Johnson, a bathchair man, of 14, Church Street, said he knew the deceased well. On Thursday, witness was having his food in the “Shades”, when deceased came into the room and sat at the same table. He had a hot dinner. Before he had finished the meal he left the room, and witness next saw him lying in the yard.

Thomas Heath, a stableman, living at Clifton Mews, said that he knew Doherty by sight. Witness was in the West Cliff Shades the previous day, and going out into the yard, he saw the deceased lying on the ground. He was on his side, and witness, thinking that he was in a fit, turned him on his back. There was no gurgling or choking sound. His lips were blue, and his mouth was wide open.

Mr. Yunge Bateman said he examined the man and saw a large piece of partially masticated meat in the thorax. Two policemen, under witness`s instruction, tried artificial respiration, but the heart did not beat. Death was due to suffocation caused by choking.

A verdict was returned in accordance with the medical testimony.
 
Folkestone Express 10-10-1903

Inquest

On Friday morning the Borough Coroner (Mr. G.W. Haines) held an inquest at the Town Hall touching the death of James Dogherty, who expired suddenly the previous day.

Francis Baker said that he resided at the West Cliff Shades, where he was employed as barman. He knew deceased, who informed him that he was 65 years of age. He had no fixed abode. Dogherty was an old soldier, having served in the Queen`s Bays and 4th Hussars, and had several medals, but witness did not know whether he was a pensioner. Deceased was often pinched for a meal, and witness on more than one occasion had supplied him with food. The previous day, about 1.15, deceased came to the West Cliff Shades and said that he was hungry. Witness told him to keep quiet and he should have a dinner. He was quite sober, but was naturally inclined to be noisy. About 1.40 witness handed deceased some cabbage, potatoes, liver and bacon, which was part of witness`s dinner. Deceased then took the food in another room. Ten minutes later witness was called to the urinal, where he saw deceased lying on his side quite still. Witness thought he was dead, and sent for a doctor. He had eaten but very little of his dinner.

Thomas Johnson, a bathchair-man, of No. 28. Church Street, said that he had seen deceased at the West Cliff Shades on several occasions. The previous day deceased came into the same room as witness with his dinner. After a few seconds he went out, and after about eight minutes a man called out “Come and look at Jimmy”. Witness went, and not liking the look of deceased`s face, he called the manager.

Thomes Heath, a stableman, residing at Clifton Mews, said he was in the bar of the West Cliff Shades on Thursday, and happening to go to the lavatory he found deceased lying there. He was insensible, and thinking deceased was in a fit he called the last witness. Deceased was very blue about the lips, and his tongue was swollen.

Dr. Bateman deposed that the previous day, shortly before two o`clock, he was called to the West Cliff Shades, where he found Dogherty lying on his back. Witness examined his throat, and found a large piece of partially masticated meat in his larynx. Deceased was carried into the house, and with the assistance of two police constables witness tried artificial respiration for half an hour, but without success. Death was due to suffocation.

A verdict of “Accidental Death” was returned.
 
 

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