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Friday, 29 October 2021

Raglan 1870s/1880s



Folkestone Chronicle 22-7-1871

County Court

Saturday July 15th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.

English v Lepper: This was a claim for a debt of over £2 for printing and advertising. Defendant paid £1 18s. in Court and said that that was all that was due, as the rest was overcharges, and was a debt incurred before plaintiff`s bankruptcy.

Plaintiff said he had bought his debts back at the time of his bankruptcy.

The case was adjourned in order to allow defendant to obtain evidence proving that he had been overcharged.

Folkestone Express 13-1-1872

Wednesday, January 10th: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.

Transfer of License

The license of the Raglan Tavern was transferred from James Morford to George Pearson.

Folkestone Express 20-12-1873

Wednesday, December 17th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer and J. Kelcey Esqs.

Mr. William Summers, who was formerly manager of the Naval Club in London, and who came to Folkestone to manage the County Club, applied for a temporary license to the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, which was granted, excellent testimonials as to character being produced. Mr. Summers has also taken the Brewery Tap, Tontine Street.

Note: Date for Summers taking the Brewery Tap is at variance with information in More Bastions.

Folkestone Express 6-6-1874

Wednesday, June 3rd: Before J. Kelcey, J. Hoad, and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

George Godden surrendered on bail to a charge of being drunk and disorderly and using obscene language.

The evidence of P.C. Hogben showed that prisoner was creating a disturbance in the bar of the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, about six o`clock on Tuesday evening, and witness removed him at the request of Mr. Summers, the landlord. When prisoner got into the street he used most abominable language in a tone loud enough to be heard by ladies passing by in carriages, and some forty of fifty persons who had assembled. He had also stripped, and wanted to fight the landlord.

Ordered to pay 18s., or 14 days` hard labour.

Folkestone Chronicle 4-9-1875

Notice

Ancient Order Of Druids

Cinque Ports Lodge 426

Raglan Tavern, Dover Road

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that TOM BURTONSHAW (formerly Secretary) having been expelled from the above Order, he has no further connection with this Lodge, his expulsion being confirmed by the Grand Lodge. Members are CAUTIONED NOT TO PAY him any contributions to the Benefit Fund in future.

James Borland, P.A.. President

C.J. Moore, P.A., Secretary

Folkestone, Sept. 2nd, 1875

Folkestone Express 13-11-1875

Monday, November 8th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, J. Tolputt and T. Caister Esqs.

Jane Filmer was charged with stealing a quantity of pork and a cotton pocket handkerchief, together of the value of 4s. 3d., the property of Alfred Grimstead.

Prosecutor said he was a plasterer, living in Ship Street. On Saturday evening he was in the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, when prisoner came in, accompanied by a sailor. Prosecutor had laid his handkerchief, containing the pork, upon the settle, and, after finishing his ale, he missed it. Prisoner and the sailor were also gone. He then gave information to the police.

P.C. Keeler said that from information he received he went in search of the prisoner, and found her at the Raglan Tavern at 9.30 on Saturday evening. She had the handkerchief and pork produced under her arm. Witness charged her with the robbery, when she said a friend of hers named “Katie” had dropped it in the bar. Witness then took her into custody.

In reply to the Bench, prisoner said she had no statement to make, and she was then committed for trial.

Southeastern Gazette 15-11-1875

Local News

At the police court, on Monday, before W. Wightwick, James Tolputt, R.W. Boarer, and T. Caister, Esqs., Harriet Jane Payne, alias Jane Filmer, was charged with stealing a joint of pork and a handkerchief, value together 4s. 9d., the property of Alfred Grinstead.

Prosecutor was on Saturday evening in the Raglan Tavern, where he saw the prisoner in company with a sailor. He missed the parcel after he had been in the house about two minutes, and gave information to the police the same evening.

P.C. Keeler deposed to finding prisoner at the Raglan about half-past nine, with the bundle in her possession, partly covered by the cape she was wearing. When asked for it she dropped it on the floor. She said that a friend of hers had dropped it in the bar, and she took it in a joke.

She was committed for trial.
 
Folkestone Express 29-1-1876

Quarter Sessions

Monday, January 24th: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.

Jane Filmer was charged with stealing a quantity of pork, value 4s. 3d., the property of Alfred Grinstead, at the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, on the 6th November.

Mr. Croft appeared for the prosecution and said that the case was of so simple a nature that it would not be necessary for him to go into details. He would therefore at once proceed to call the evidence.

Alfred Grinstead said: I am a plasterer, living in Ship Street. On the 6th November I went into the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road. I had two friends with me. I had also a parcel. The one produced is the same that I had with me. I know it by the handkerchief with which it is wrapped up. It was just after nine o`clock when I went into the Raglan, and I saw the prisoner and a soldier there. I laid my bundle down on a chair near to which the prisoner was standing. I laid it down whilst I paid for three glasses of ale which I had called for. Whilst I was paying for the ale, the prisoner left, and also the soldier, but I did not see them go. I then missed the bundle and gave information to P.C. Keeler.

P.C. Keler said: On the 6th November from information received I went in search of the prisoner, and found her in the Raglan Tavern. There was a soldier with her. She had the parcel produced under her arm, and I asked to look at it. She then let the parcel drop on to the floor. I examined it, and found it had got meat in it. The meat was afterwards identified by the prosecutor. I charged the prisoner with stealing it, when she said that a friend of hers had left it for her to take care of. I then took her into custody.

Prisoner in answer to the Court said that she took up the parcel thinking it belonged to her friend. She had no idea that it belonged to the prosecutor.

The Recorder having summed up the evidence, the jury, after retiring for a short time, returned a verdict of Guilty, and the learned Recorder sentenced the prisoner to six months` imprisonment with hard labour.

Wednesday, January 26th: Before The Mayor, Col. De Crespigny, R.W. Boarer and T. Caister Esqs.

Mr. Summers, landlord of the Raglan Tavern, applied for a special license on the occasion of the annual dinner of the Manchester Unity of Oddfellows on the 8th February.

Mr. Bradley (assistant Clerk to the Magistrates) said that it would be necessary to make the application at the Petty Sessions immediately preceding the date of the dinner.

Folkestone Express 11-3-1876

Wednesday, March 8th: Before J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs., and General Armstrong.

William Seabrooke and Robert Elliott were charged with being deserters from the Royal Artillery, stationed at Dover.

Both pleaded Guilty.

Superintendent Wilshere said from information he received he went in search of the prisoners on Tuesday night, and found them at the Raglan Tavern. He charged them with being deserters, when they said they were engineers. Assistance was procured and they were conveyed to the police station.

The Bench ordered them to be handed over to the military authorities.

Folkestone Express 21-4-1877

Saturday, April 14th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, Colonel De Crespigny, W.J. Jeffreason Esq., and Alderman Caister.

Philip Cox, a mariner, was summoned for being drunk and disorderly and using obscene language in Dover Street. The prisoner pleaded Guilty.

P.C. Ovenden deposed on Saturday evening he was called to the Raglan Tavern, where he found the prisoner, who then walked out in company with some other men. He had got but a short distance down Dover Road when he fell to the ground. His friends got him up but he immediately fell down again. On both occasions he used offensive and indecent expressions. The prisoner then went into the Crown And Anchor, to which witness was shortly after called to eject him. This he did, and the prisoner was taken home by some friends. Witness said that there had been frequent complaints about the prisoner`s conduct and bad language in Dover Street.

The Bench fined the prisoner 5s. and costs for being drunk and disorderly, and 5s. and 8s. costs for using obscene language, the alternative in each case being seven days` hard labour.

Folkestone Express 21-7-1877

Saturday, July 14th: Before J. Clarke Esq., Alderman Caister, and General Armstrong.

George Hall was summoned for being drunk in the Dover Road on the 6th March last. Defendant pleaded Not Guilty.

P.C. Keeler stated that he was on duty in the High Street on the 6th March last, and was sent for to the Raglan Tavern. He went, and in the bar found the defendant lying on a form, speechless drunk. He obtained a conveyance and took him to the station. Upon searching defendant he found a bottle of whisky (produced) in his pocket. Dr. Mercer was sent for and defendant was taken to the Union next day.

Superintendent Wilshere stated that he was at the station on the 6th March when the defendant was brought to the station insensible. He immediately sent for Dr. Mercer, who said “The man is gorged with drink. Nature might recover itself, but he is so far gone as to be dead”. Dr. Mercer and Dr. Bateman called all that night and the next day, and defendant was removed to the Union.

The Bench fined defendant 5s. and 10s. costs, or in default seven days` imprisonment.

Folkestone Express 27-4-1878

Wednesday, April 24th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, Captain Crowe, W.J. Jeffreason, J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs., and Aldermen Caister and Sherwood.

Temporary authority was granted to Mr. William Harrison Marsh to carry on the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road.

Folkestone Express 20-9-1879

Wednesday, September 17th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Hoad, J. Fitness, M. Bell, and R.W. Boarer Esqs.

The license of the Raglan Tavern was transferred from William Marsh to William Cheeseman.

Folkestone Express 23-6-1883

Wednesday, June 20th: Before R.W. Boarer Esq., Alderman Hoad, and General Armstrong.

The transfer of the license for the Raglan was confirmed.
 

Kentish Gazette 25-10-1881 

At the Police Court on Wednesday, before the Mayor, Aldermen Caister and Sherwood, Gen. Cannon and J. Holden Esqs., Michael Coghlan was summoned for neglecting to maintain his wife, whereby she became chargeable to the parish.

Mr. Minter, who defended, said the defendant was a master mariner and a most respectable man, and his only reason for neglecting to maintain his wife was that he accused her of committing adultery with a man named Freeman.

James Hall, landlord of the Raglan Tavernm said that defendant`s wife used to come to his house, where she frequently met a coal agent named Freeman. They used to go into the coffee room where drink was served to them. They remained in the house half an hour to an hour at the time.

Defendant`s son, 10 years of age, proved the frequency of Freeman`s visits to his mother whilst his father was at sea.

The Bench intimated that they did not consider the adultery proved. They therefore adjourned the case until Saturday, with the understanding that in the meantime the defendant should pay the costs incurred by the guardians for the maintenance of the woman, and also take her out of the Union; in default of his doing this the case would be dealt with in the ordinary way.

Mr. Minter said the defendant would accept the conditions and provide for his wife until her confinement, when, if it should take place at the time the defendant anticipated, he would refuse to make any further allowance and then the whole question of the adultery could be gone into.

Folkestone Express 1-11-1884

Wednesday, October 29th: Before Captain Crowe, F. Boykett and A.M. Watkin Esqs.

Transfer Of Licence

Temporary authority was granted to Joseph Muller with respect to the Raglan Tavern.

Folkestone Express 2-5-1885

Wednesday, April 29th: Before The Mayor, Aldermen Caister and Sherwood, Captain Fletcher, J. Fitness, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason and J. Holden Esqs.

The licence of the Raglan was transferred to Mr. Quinton

Folkestone News 2-5-1885

Local News

At the Police Court on Monday, before The Mayor, Captain Carter, J. Fitness, T. Caister, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason, J. Sherwood and J. Holden Esqs., the Raglan Tavern was transferred to Mr. Quinton

Folkestone Express 15-5-1886

Saturday, May 8th: Before The Mayor, Captain Carter, and Alderman Caister.

Alfred Swinborne, described as a flower seller, was charged with stealing a watch, value £1, the property of William Watts.

Prosecutor said he lived at Canterbury. On Friday he saw the prisoner at the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, and entrusted him with a pawn ticket and the money to go to Mr. Joseph`s and redeem a watch and take it to him. Prisoner did not return, and prosecutor gave information to the police. The watch produced was his.

By the prisoner: You were not drunk, nor was I.

Joseph Whiting, of the Bricklayers` Arms, Fenchurch Street, said the prisoner went to his house on Friday evening. He had been drinking, but was not drunk. He offered the watch produced for sale for half a sovereign. Witness told him he did not want it, and the prisoner went away. Prisoner said he had found the watch.

Sergeant Pay said he went in search of the prisoner and found him in Harbour Street. He told him the charge and took him into custody. Prisoner said he didn`t steal the watch. He took it out of pawn for a gentleman, and afterwards could not find him.

Prisoner pleaded Guilty and was sentenced to one month`s hard labour.

Folkestone Express 22-12-1888

Friday, December 13th: Before Colonel De Crespigny, Surgeon General Gilbourne, and Alderman Banks.

John Davidson was charged with stealing a woollen shawl, and a silver mounted walking stick, the property of some person unknown.

Sergeant Harman said he was in Dover Street about half past seven on Thursday evening, in plain clothes, and from a communication he received from Boat Inspector Brice, he watched the prisoner, who he saw come out of the Perseverance beerhouse with the shawl over his shoulders and the stick in his hand. He saw prisoner go into several shops and public houses, and at half past eight followed him into the Raglan at the top of Dover Street. He cautioned him and asked him where he got the shawl and stick from. He replied “The shawl belongs to me. It was my mother`s. I didn`t steal the stick. It belongs to some gentleman”. He took him to the police station and charged him on suspicion of stealing the articles, and detained him for enquiries to be made. Prisoner said he did not steal the stick; he only took it. There was a lot of flymen in the house at the time. He asked prisoner what house, and he said he would go back and show him, but witness declined to go. Prisoner was under the influence of drink, and made no reply at the station to the charge.

Superintendent Taylor asked for a remand in order that he might trace the owner of the stick, which had on the silver knob the initials “F.C.S.”

On Saturday the accused was again brought up, and there being no further evidence adduced, he was discharged.

Folkestone Chronicle 31-8-1889

The Annual Folkestone Licensing Sessions were held at the Town Hall on Wednesday, before Dr. Bateman and a full Bench.

Objection

Objection was raised against the Raglan because the house had not been conducted properly.

Mr. W. Mowll appeared for the owners, Beer and Co., and promised to see that the house was conducted better in the future.

Folkestone Express 31-8-1889

Wednesday, August 28th: Before Dr. Bateman, Captain Carter, J. Hoad, J. Clarke, H.W. Poole, J. Pledge and F. Boykett Esq.

The General Annual Licensing Meeting was held on Wednesday.

All the old licenses were renewed without opposition or comment except the following:-

The Raglan Tavern: In this case the Superintendent said the house had not been conducted in a satisfactory manner during the twelve months, but he had been unable to get a case strong enough to prosecute.

Mr. Mowll, on behalf of Messrs. Beer, the owners, said they were very anxious their houses should be conducted in a proper manner.

Applicant said he had not been cautioned by the police during the four years and nine months he had been there.

Supt. Taylor said the house was the resort of loose women. He had brought the matter to the notice of the owners. The licence was granted.  



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