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Saturday, 3 August 2013

Harvey Hotel 1890s



Folkestone Herald 2-9-1893

Local News

We regret to announce the death of our fellow townsman, Mr. George Marsh, proprietor of the Harvey Hotel, Dover Road. Deceased had been ailing for some months, and a short time since his illness took a serious turn, terminating fatally yesterday afternoon. Mr. Marsh was one of Folkestone`s most respected tradesmen. He built the Harvey Hotel some thirty years ago, and with much energy reared a flourishing business. For many years the trademen`s annual dinner was held at this hostelry, and often at those festive gatherings have the Mayors for the time being congratulated the proprietor on the exemplary manner in which his trade has been carried on. Our old riend was a typical English gentleman, a loyal citizen, and a true friend. To his bereaved widow and grown up children we tender our respectful and heartfelt sympathy.

Folkestone Visitors` List 6-9-1893

En Passant

The death of Mr. George Marsh, of the Harvey Hotel, Dover Road, occurred, after a few days` illness, on Friday last. The deceased, who was much respected, was 63 years of age, and was a native of Ash. He came to Folkestone about 36 years ago, and was for some years on the staff of the Pavilion Hotel, where he superintended the repairs and similar arrangements. He built the Harvey Hotel about 30 years since, and from that time has presided as it`s landlord, providing himself with a genial and courteous boniface, and at his death he was the oldest licensed victualler in Folkestone. He was attended in his illness by Dr. F. Eastes, the family doctor. The bell of St. Michael`s, of which Mr. Marsh was a parishioner, was tolled on his demise. The funeral will take place this (Wednesday) afternoon.

Folkestone Express 9-9-1893

Local News

A large number of old friends will hear with regret of the death of Mr. George Marsh, proprietor of the Harvey Hotel, who had been for a long time in bad health, but who at last passed away somewhat suddenly on Friday last. The deceased was 63. The funeral took place on Wednesday, when upwards of of the deceased`s relatives and more intimate acquaintances followed in carriages, and a very much larger number were present at the cemetery. The coffin of polished oak was covered in beautiful wreaths and crosses, sent as tokens of sympathy with the deceased`s widow and family. Mr. John Newman, a very old friend of Mr. Marsh`s was the undertaker, and the Rev. E. Husband conducted the funeral service.

Folkestone Chronicle 16-9-1893

Local News

Not many hours had elapsed since the Town Hall was occupied by a gay and brilliant company who were enjoying the pleasures of the terpsichorean art, when a gathering of a very different nature took place within it`s walls at eleven o`clock on Wednesday morning. In the short space which had elapsed the Hall had been denuded of all it`s tasty decorations and luxurious appointments, and had put on it`s everyday appearance for the transaction of the business of the Special Licensing Session, which had been appointed for the purpose of dealing with the licenses to which notice of opposition had been given by the police.

At the end of the Hall, backed by high red baize screens, raised seats had been arranged for the accommodation of the Licensing Justices. Here at eleven o`clock the chair was taken by Mr. J. Clark, ho was accompanied on the Bench by Alderman Pledge, Messrs. Holden, Hoad, Fitness, Davey, Poole, and Herbert.

Immediately in front of the Bench were tables for the accommodation of Counsel and other members of the legal profession, while in close proximity were seats for Borough Magistrates who were not members of the Licensing Committee, and for the brewers and agents interested in the cases that were to occupy the attention of the Bench. The body of the Hall was well filled with members of the trade and the general public, whilst there was quite an array of members of the police force who were present to give evidence.

The Harvey Hotel

The first matter to occupy attention was a formal application by Mr. Minter for temporary authority to be granted to Mrs. Margaret Marsh, widow of the late Mr. George Marsh, to sell at the Harvey Hotel, and this was granted.

Folkestone Express 16-9-1893

Adjourned Licensing Session

The special sitting for the hearing of those applications for renewals to which the Superintendent of Police had give notice of opposition was held on Wednesday. The Magistrates present were Messrs. J. Clark, J. Hoad, W.H. Poole, W.G. Herbert, J. Fitness, J.R. Davy, J. Holden, C.J. Pursey and J. Pledge.

Mr. Lewis Glyn and Mr. Bodkin supported the applications on behalf of the owners, instructed by Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, with whom were Mr. Minter, Mr. F. Hall, and Mr. Mercer (Canterbury), and Mr. Montagu Bradley (Dover) opposed on behalf of the Good Templars.

Before the business commenced, Mr. Bradley handed to Mr. Holden a document, which he carefully perused, and then handed to Mr. J. Clark, the Chairman.

Mr. Glyn, who appeared for the applicants, speaking in a very low tone, made an application to the Bench, the effect of which was understood to be that the Justices should retire to consider the document. The Justices did retire, and on their return Mr. Holden was not among them.

The Harvey Hotel

Temporary authority was given to Mrs. Marsh, widow of George Marsh, late of the Harvey Hotel, to sell until the next transfer day.

Folkestone Chronicle 12-12-1896

Wednesday, December 9th: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Mr. J. Fitness, and General Gwyn.

The licence of the Harvey Hotel was transferred to Mr. Richard Marsh

Folkestone Chronicle 15-1-1898

Local News

The Harvey Hotel: This hotel, so long carried on by Messrs. Marsh, and one of the few free houses in Folkestone, has, we learn, been sold to Messrs. Nalder and Collyer, of Croydon, for a very large sum.

Folkestone Chronicle 6-8-1898

Wednesday, August 3rd: Before Messrs. J. Pledge, W.G. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey.

Mr. Brooker was granted the transfer of the licence of the Harvey Hotel 

Folkestone Up To Date 6-8-1898

Wednesday, August 3rd: Before J. Pledge, W.C. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey esqs.

Transfer was sanctioned to Mr. Hand (temporary), Harvey Hotel, Dover Road 

Transfer was sanctioned to Mr. Brooker (permanent), Harvey Hotel 

Folkestone Herald 6-8-1898

Police Court Report

On Wednesday licence was granted to Mr. Brooker, Harvey Hotel

Hythe Reporter 13-8-1898

Folkestone Police Court

At the sitting of the Bench of Magistrates last Wednesday, the following licence was transferred:

Mr. Hand applied for a formal transfer of the licence of the Harvey Hotel. Mr. J. Brooker, of Crawley Down, was granted temporary authority to sell at the same house.
 
Folkestone Chronicle 17-9-1898

Wednesday, September 14th: Before Messrs. J. Banks, J. Fitness, W.G. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey.

Mr. Brooker was granted the transfer of the Harvey Hotel

Folkestone Up To Date 17-9-1898

Wednesday, September 14th: Before Ald. Banks, J. Fitness, W.G. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.

Transfer was made to Mr. Brooker, Harvey Hotel, Dover Road 

Folkestone Herald 17-9-1898

Police Court Record

On Wednesday transfer was granted to Mr. Brooker, Harvey Hotel 

Folkestone Chronicle 5-11-1898

Local News

Folkestone people were considerably disturbed yesterday (Friday) afternoon at the news, which spread rapidly, that Mr. William Newman Hart, of 2, Harvey Street, had been found dead in bed about 11 o`clock in the morning. The case on enquiry proved far more sad than was at first imagined. The supposition was that Mr. Hart, who was well known as sub-manager of the Harvey Hotel, in Dover Road, had died in an apoplectic fit, to which ailment he was subject. The truth, however, it was evident, was that he had committed suicide. He had been serving in the bar of the Harvey overnight, and then exhibited unusual cheerfulness. As he did not come down in the morning, his room was eventually broken into, when his body was found, in night attire, lying beside the bed, his throat cut deep, and a razor lying beside him. At the side of the bed was a washstand basin, nearly filled with blood. He had cut his throat and leaned over the basin until nearly exhausted, and had then pulled himself on his back to die.

Mr. art lost his wife nearly two years ago, and had since displayed occasional despondency. Recently, however, he became engaged to a Miss Brooker, his niece, a young lady living in Croydon, and the marriage was fixed for November 14th. In the room was found a letter addressed to Miss Brooker, couched in affectionate terms, and expressing a regret that he felt sure he would never be able to keep her as became her station in life, and that he had therefore decided to die at once rather than engage in a life of hardship.

The deceased was in age a few years over 40. He was much respected in Folkestone, where he acted as election agent for Sir Israel Hart at the last Parliamentary Election, and the news of his death caused much sadness in the town. His father was confined in a lunatic asylum, and it is believed that insanity was hereditary with him, and that the death of his wife, which in itself was peculiar and sad, was so vividly recalled by his approaching marriage so as to unhinge his mind.

Inquest

Mr. Minter (Coroner) held the inquest yesterday (Friday) afternoon.

Mr. Fred Pearson, of 6, Harvey Street, said that deceased lodged in Great Harvey Street, and was a barman out of employment.

Mr. Spendlow, father-in-law, said he went up to the bedroom at twelve o`clock that morning, and found the door locked. With a screwdriver and some keys he burst the door open, and found the man dead on the bed, with his throat cut, and a bowl in the room containing blood. The man was quite dead. He gave information to the authorities at once.

Mary Spendlow, mother-in-law of the deceased, said that deceased went out on Thursday night at seven o`clock, and returned at 11.15, his usual time. He occupied the front bedroom, first floor. She had left his supper waiting in the kitchen. Witness was in bed, but heard him go to supper, and afterwards up to his room. She did not hear him lock his door, but found it locked from the inside in the morning. Deceased was forty eight years old, and had been the husband of her daughter, who died eighteen months ago. She and deceased were alone in the house overnight. She went to his room and knocked at nine a.m., getting no answer. She went up again between ten and eleven, and then concluded that he had had a fit, to which he was subject. She then decided to get the door open, and this her husband did. Her husband and Mr. Fred Pearson opened the door. Deceased had been depressed and dull for some time, rarely talking. She did not know of any troubles the man had. He had no property that she knew of, except the furniture in his room. He suffered much from pains in his feet. She never heard him talk of committing suicide. As a rule he was an early riser. She knew no reason why he should commit suicide.

Dr. James William Thornton Gilbert said he was called to see deceased that forenoon a little after twelve, and found the body lying at the left hand side of the bed, on the floor, with a large gash in the throat. A razor was on the floor. The body was cold, and rigor mortis had set in. He had been dead four or five hours, and death resulted from haemorrhage following the injuries inflicted with the razor, no doubt by himself. The act was committed with the right hand, and the cut was from left to right, very deep. Witness had frequently attended deceased for pains in the body and feet. He was a big man, used to taking stimulants. The act was apparently premeditated. He had laid on the bed, and had got out again, and had kept a small lamp alight till it burnt out. He had been kneeling over the basin, which was canted up to catch the blood, and, when exhausted, had rolled over on to his side. In the room was found a letter (which the Coroner would not read).

The Coroner: This is evidently a letter written to an acquaintance of his.

The Doctor: That is the girl he was engaged to,

The Coroner: Stop, doctor. Stop a minute. You don`t know any more than I do, except what you have been told. In this letter he is complaining of pain which he is suffering in his feet, and which he says is terrible. He feels like going mad, and he has concealed it for a long time, and he asks to be forgiven, and makes a kind of will, leaving everything belonging to him to someone not in this town, whom it is not necessary to name, evidently showing he contemplated the act, and finished with the words to the person “Good Bye”.

Mr. Chadwick, Coroner`s Officer, produced a gold watch and chain, three knives, and silver watch belonging to his late wife. These were found in deceased`s clothes.

His mother-in-law, re-called, said his father died in a lunatic asylum.

Verdict “Temporarily Insane”.

Folkestone Herald 5-11-1898

Inquest

Yesterday (Friday) afternoon the Borough Coroner (Mr. John Minter) held an inquest at the Town Hall, touching the death of William Newman Hart, aged 48, a barman, who was found lying in his bedroom with his throat cut about 12 o`clock yesterday. The jury went to No. 8, Harvey Street to view the body. The evidence taken was as follows:-

Frederick Reason deposed that he lived at 6, Harvey Street, and was apprenticed to a carpenter. He knew the deceased. He identified the body viewed by the jury as that of William Newman Hart. Deceased lodged at 8, Harvey Street. Mr. Spindlow was the deceased`s father-in-law. That day at 10 minutes to 12, witness was called by Mrs. Spindlow. He went upstairs and found deceased in a room, locked. He called “Mr. Hart”, and then got some tools and keys. He got the door open, taking the stopper off. On entering the room he found the deceased lying in the position in which the body was when the jury had seen it. Deceased was dead. He had his throat cut. The bowl containing blood was in the same position as it was then. Witness gave information.

Mrs. Mary Spindlow deposed that she was the wife of Thomas Spindlow, and lived at 8, Harvey Street. Deceased lodged with her. His wife had been dead, she thought, for about 18 months. Deceased was 48 years old. He was a manager, or barman, but had been out of employment. He went out the previous day, Thursday, about his usual time. He came in at a quarter past eleven. He occupied the front bedroom, first floor. When he came in witness was in bed. She was in the back room on the first floor. She was sure it was deceased because she knew his footsteps. He went into the kitchen and had his supper, remaining down two or three minutes. He afterwards went into his bedroom. Witness did not hear him lock his door, but it was found locked next morning. She got up next morning, but saw nothing of the deceased. She went up and called him at 9 o`clock. She went again at 10, but could not make him hear. She rattled the door. She thought he had had a fit. She went again at 11 o`clock and rattled the door, but could not again make him answer. She kept waiting, thinking he would get up. Her husband rattled the door. They got alarmed and had the witness Reason in. He opened the door. The deceased was in the habit of having fits, and had been suffering from diabetes. He had seemed strange, and had not talked much. She did not know if he had troubles. She had never heard him talking about committing suicide. He had been suffering with his feet a long time. She did not know what it was. She knew no reason why he should have committed this sad act.

By a juryman: Deceased let himself in with his latchkey. She never heard him after half past twelve in the night.

Dr. James William T. Gilbert, practicing in Folkestone, deposed that he was called that morning to 8, Harvey Street, and found the body of the deceased lying on the left hand side of the bed on the floor. He had a terrific gash in his throat. There was a razor on the floor. The man was dead. He had been dead some considerable time. The cause of death was haemorrhage from the injuries to his throat, which were no doubt inflicted with the razor produced. In his opinion the act was committed by the deceased using his right hand, the cut being from left to right. The gash was very deep, and had severed all the important structures. He had attended the deceased on divers occasions. The basin was in the same position with the blood in it. The act was apparently premeditated. Deceased`s bed had been laid on. In witness` opinion the man took the basin and razor and committed the act while in a kneeling position, and then rolled over. The basin was tilted up so as to catch the blood. Afterwards he came across the document produced.

The Coroner said it was a letter written to a person, complaining of the pain he was suffering from his feet, and which he said was horrible. He felt like going mad, and he had concealed for a long time the dreadful pain he had had. He asked to be forgiven for going before, and made a kind of will. It was not necessary to mention the person`s name. Evidently, by this letter, he showed that he was contemplating doing what he did. What little things he had were to pay debts he had. He said “Goodbye”.

Mrs. Spindlow said that there was insanity in the family. His father had been in a lunatic asylum.

Mr. Edwin J. Chadwick, the Coroner`s Officer, deposed that he had searched and found a gold watch and chain, a box containing gold cuff links, a sliver watch and steel chain (Mrs. Spindlow said the latter belonged to the deceased`s wife), a ring, on which were his initials, a latchkey, three knives, 12s. in silver, seven pence in bronze, and a card case. The razor was on the floor.

The jury, in their verdict, found that the deceased committed suicide whilst temporarily insane.

Folkestone Express 22-7-1899

Monday, July 17th: Before The Mayor, J. Banks, C.J. Pursey and W. Wightwick Esqs., and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.

Walter James Davis and Christopher Lumley, excursionists, were charged with being drunk and disorderly, and Lumley was further charged with assaulting the police.

P.C. Johnson said at 1.45 on Saturday afternoon he was in the Dover Road and saw the prisoner Davis with his jacket off fighting another man. He went to him several times and asked him to go away, but he refused. Lumley all the time was egging him on to fight. They were both very drunk and both using very obscene language. There was a crowd of 50 or 60 people round them. When he arrested Davis, Lumley ran at him, struck at him and knocked him down. Witness and three or four more constables were severely mobbed by a crowd of excursionists. With the assistance of civilians prisoners were brought to the station.

P.C. Stannage said on Saturday afternoon he was called to the Harvey Hotel by the landlord to eject several excursionists who were creating a disturbance. With the assistance of other constables they did so. Lumley was outside using most filthy language. He saw Lumley strike Johnson.

The prisoner Lumley said on Saturday he had done a thing he had never done before – he took some drink. What he did he did in self-defence. Davis said he was very sorry. He wasn`t quite himself at the time.

The Bench fined the defendants 20s. and 4s. 6d. costs for each offence, or in default 14 days` hard labour.

Folkestone Herald 22-7-1899

Folkestone Police Court

On Monday, Walter James Davies and Christopher Lumley were charged with being drunk and disorderly on the previous Saturday.

P.C. George W. Johnson deposed: At 1.45 p.m., on Saturday, the 15th inst., I was in Dover Road. I saw Davies, jacket off, fighting with another man. I went to him several times and asked him to go away, but he refused to do so. Lumley said “Never mind the policeman. You have a go”. They were both drunk, making use of obscene language. They caused about 50 or 60 people to collect. I took Davies into custody, and at the same time Lumley struck me in the back of the neck with his fist. He said “You don`t lock him up”. I was knocked down on the path, my trousers being torn across the knee. With two or three other constables, we were mobbed by about twenty excursionists. These men are excursionists. I brought Davis to the police station with the assistance of civilians. Lumley was brought by P.C. Stannage and others.

P.C. Stannage deposed: On Saturday afternoon last I was called to the Harvey Hotel to eject men who were making a disturbance. Lumley was drunk and used filthy language. He refused to go away, and with assistance I brought him to the police station. Davis struck Johnson on the back of the head.

P.C. Johnson said Lumley was the one that struck him. He thought the witness had made a mistake.

Davies said that there were two separate parties. Someone wanted to fight, and he acted in self-defence. He did not see his way to leave.

Lumley said that he was trying to stop the other men from fighting.

The Bench took a lenient view, it being a first offence. The defendants were fined 20s. and 4s. 6d. costs for each offence, or 14 days` hard labour.

Folkestone Express 9-12-1899

Wednesday, December 6th: Before J. Hoad, J. Holden, and J. Pledge Esqs., and Lieut. Col. Hamilton.

Sydney Henry Cross was granted a transfer of licence for the Harvey Hotel, Dover Road.

Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.
 
Folkestone Herald 9-12-1899

Folkestone Police Court

On Wednesday transfer was granted to Mr. S.H. Cross, Harvey Hotel 
 
Note: Date for transfer is at variance with More Bastions.


 

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