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Monday 29 May 2023

Cinque Ports Brewery, Mill Bay

Folkestone Observer Advertisement 4-4-1868
 

Southeastern Gazette 17-4-1855

Advertisement: Brewery plant for sale, Folkestone. Messrs. Godden and Venables will sell by auction on Monday, April 23, 1855, on Mr. Dunk`s premises, Tontine Street, Folkestone, the whole of the plant of a small brewery, casks, &c. Consisting of a 4 barrel wort tun, 6 barrel liquor tun, underbacks, hop back, an excellent malt-crushing machine by Garrett, 4 10ft. square coolers, hop press, copper liquor pump, lift pump, puncheons, 10 hogsheads, 27 barrels, 11 18 gallon casks, 10 9 gallon casks, pins, quarter brandy casks, pulleys, stalders &c., &c.

The goods will be on view on Saturday, the 21st, and morning of sale, and catalogues may be obtained of the Auctioneers, Folkestone.

The whole will be sold without reserve, the sale to commence at one o`clock.

Note: Description leads me to believe this was the brewery located at the High Street end of Mill Bay.

Folkestone Observer 29-2-1868

County Court

Monday, February 24th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.

James Farley v Valentine Hoile: A suit for £4 10s., a quarter`s rent for a house in Foord Lane. Mr. Bradley for plaintiff, Mr. Wightwick for defendant.

Plaintiff proced the letting, both verbally and by letter.

Cross-examined: The notice to quit was given on the 6th of July, 1867, to the effect that it was his intention to quit the occupation of the house on the 11th October following. He returned the notice to Mr. Hoile on the same day.

By Mr. Bradley: He took the notice back, and at all events he did not have possession of the house on the 11th of October. Defendant did not offer him the key on the 11th October.

By Mr. Wightwick: He took the notice down to give Mr. Hoile, and he was out. Must have brought it away again. Saw Mrs. Hoile.

Mr. Wightwick said the house was let to the defendant at £18 a year, subject to either party determining the tenancy on giving three months` notice. The defendant was unable to take the house unless he could quit it at a quarter`s notice, for he was employed in a brewery, and it was uncertain how long he would be employed there.

He called Valentine Hoile, who said he hired a house of plaintiff in Foord Lane two days before the 6th of April. He hired the house as a quarterly tenant. The plaintiff said he wanted £20 a year for the house because he was going to sell it, but he (defendant) might have it for £18 a year, provided he took a receipt for £20. He said he would rather let the house for the whole year. He (defendant) told him he was here for six months only, so he could only take it as a quarterly tenant or not at all. On the 6th July he gave the notice that had been produced, and prior to the 11th of October he went out of the house and had not had possession of it since. Prior to or on the 11th October he took the key to the plaintiff, who refused to accept it. Told him if he wanted the key he could have it at the house he (defendant) was then living in. Plaintiff would not take it. Went to him again on the 6th of January. He took the key on condition that he (defendant) paid a quarter`s rent. Told him he should not, unless his solicitor advised him to.

The Judge said the question was whether the letter varied the hiring and took it out of the general rule. He was inclined to think that it did. He did not think the contract as made by the letter should be three months ending on the same day that the tenancy commenced, because that would throw the tenant in for a whole year.

Mr. Bradley: Exactly so, Sir. That is what we say the hiring was.

The Judge: I am inclined to think the hiring in this case takes it out of the general rule. I think I shall decide for defendant.

Folkestone Chronicle 25-4-1868

Advert:

Hoile`s Home Brewed Family Ale
Cinque Ports Brewery, Folkestone
The March Brewings are ready for delivery, in fine condition

Folkestone Chronicle 10-7-1869

Court Of Bankruptcy, London

Monday, July 5th

Before Mr. Registrar Pepys

Re. V. Hoile, the Younger

Margate and Folkestone &c. The bankrupt, Valentine Hoile, the younger, is described as formerly of New Street, Margate, brewer; then of Stowmarket, manager of a brewery there; then of 10, Raglan Villas, Folkestone, carrying on business at the Cinque Ports Brewery, High Street, Folkestone, brewer; and late and now of No. 2, Canterbury Terrace, Folkestone, all in the County of Kent, in no business or employment. This was a sitting for the proof of debts and choice of trade assignees.

Mr. J.U. Clark, solicitor, 9, Cook`s Court, Lincolns Inn, appeared for the bankrupt, who petitioned the Court on the 18th of June last, attributing his bankruptcy to “insufficiency of capital to carry on my business”. The total amount of the bankrupt`s unsecured debts is £623 18s. and Mr. R. Venables, gentleman, of Aldersgate, London, is returned as a creditor for £50, holding security on the brewery, plant &c. The principal unsecured creditors are: Mr. George Potter, Guston, near Dover, gentleman, £250, The National Provincial Bank, Folkestone, £50, Mr. Richard Coleman, farmer, Langdon Court, Dover, £60, Mr. Edwd. Powell, stonemason, Folkestone, £20 7s. 1d., Mr. George Tite, Folkestone, maltster £45 &c. The total number of creditors is forty six, and the remainder, whose debts are below £20, reside at Sandwich, Canterbury, Folkestone, Margate and Dover, in this County.

No creditor attended this sitting to prove, therefore no trade assignee was appointed, and the Court fixed the 16th of October next, at twelve o`clock, for the examination and order of discharge sitting, to be held before Mr. Commissioner Winslow.

Renewed protection from arrest having been granted the bankrupt, the sitting ended.

Southeastern Gazette 12-7-1869


Bankruptcy of V. Hoile the Younger

On Monday this bankrupt came up before Mr. Registrar Pepys. He is described as forrmerly of New Street, Margate, brewer; then of Stowmarket, manager of a brewery there; then of 10, Raglan Villas, Folkestone, carrying on business at The Cinque Ports Brewery, High Street, Folkestone, brewer, and late and now of No. 2, Canterbury Terrace, Folkestone.

Mr. J.U. Clark, solicitor, 9, Cook’s Court, Lincon’s Inn, appeared for the bankrupt, who petitioned the Court on the 18th of June last, attributing his bankruptcy to “insufficiency of capital to carry on my business”.

The total amount of the bankrupt's unsecured debts is £623 8s. No creditor attended this sitting to prove, therefore no trade assignee was appointed and the Court fixed the 16th October next at twelve o’dock for the examination and order of discharge sitting, to be held before Mr. Commissioner Winslow. Renewed protection from arrest having been granted the sitting ended.

Kentish Gazette 13-7-1869 

Re. V. Hoile: In the Court of Bankruptcy last week, the case of this bankrupt came on for hearing. The bankrupt, Valentine Hoile, the younger, is described as formerly of New Street, Margate, brewer; then of Stowmarket, manager of a brewery there; then of 10, Raglan Villas, Folkestone, carrying on business at the Cinque Ports Brewery, High Street, Folkestone, brewer; and late and now of No. 2, Canterbury Terrace, Folkestone, all in the County of Kent, in no business or employment. This was a sitting for the proof of debts and choice of trade assignees. Mr. J. II. Clark, solicitor, 9, Cook’s Court, Lincoln's Inn, appeared for the bankrupt, who peti­tioned the Court on the 18th of June last, attributing his bankruptcy to “insufficiency of capital tn carry on my business.” The total amount of the bankrupt's unsecured debts is £623 18s., and Mr. R. Venables, gentleman, of Aldgate, London, is returned as a creditor for £50, holding security on the brewery, plant, &c. The principal unse­cured creditors are Mr. George Potter, Guston, near Dover, gentleman, £250; The National Provincial Bank, Folke­stone, £50; Mr. Richard Coleman, farmer, Langdon Court, Dover, £60; Mr. Edward Powell, stone mason, Folkestone, £20 7s. 1d.; Mr. George T ite, Folkestone, maltster, £45, &c. The total number of creditors is forty-six, and the remainder, whose debts arc below £20, reside at Sandwich, Canterbury, Folkestone, Margate, and Dover, in this county. No creditor attended this sitting to prove, therefore no trade assignee was appointed, and the Court fixed the 16th of October next, at twelve o’clock, for the examination and order of discharge sitting, to be held before Mr. Commis­sioner Winslow. Renewed protection from arrest having been granted the bankrupt, the sitting ended. 

Folkestone Express 23-4-1870

Advertisement

FOLKESTONE

A SMALL BREWERY TO LET

Suitable for a young man commencing business. Coming in moderate.

Apply to Mr. George Brickman, Auctioneer and Business Agent, Folkestone.

Note: Although not specifically named as such. I believe this was the Cinque Ports Brewery, which will be up for auction in 1874

Folkestone Express 14-2-1874

Advertisement:

FOLKESTONE, KENT.

To Brewers, Maltsters, Coopers, Farmers and Others

Messrs Brickman & Co. will sell by Auction, on Tuesday next, February 17th, 1874, on the premises known as

THE CINQUE PORTS BREWERY, situate in MILL BAY, FOLKESTONE
Near the High Street, in consequence of the premises being let for other purposes the whole of the useful
FITTINGS, FIXTURES AND PLANT OF A SMALL BREWERY

Comprising liquor backs with pipes and brass taps, mash tuns, iron false bottom for ditto, lead piping and brass taps, one underback with copper basin and leaden waste pipe, one oak working round with brass tap, three fir working squares and taps, one leaden lift pump and pipe, three marble coolers, on stands, with taps and washers.

ONE COPPER REFRIGERATOR with supply and waste pipes, malt mill, twelve working casks, twenty barrels, forty kilderkins, seventy firkins, thirty pins, together with a quantity of stalders, useful timber, and other effects.

Sale to commence at One o`clock

On view the morning of Sale, or previously by application to the Auctioneer. The whole of the plant to be carefully taken down within 2 days after the Sale at the Purchaser`s expense, under the direction of the Vendor`s Surveyor.

Folkestone Visitors` List 14-6-1893

In a piece about the Bloemfontein Mission in this issue there is mention of the “early days in Mill Bay in the old converted brewhouse”.

I believe this would have been the brewhouse of the former Cinque Ports Brewery.
 
Folkestone Herald 27-12-1930

Felix

Here is a tribute to Folkestone water, and incidentally, beer. The present generation can hardly realise that there were three breweries in Folkestone, namely the Gun Brewery (adjoining Mr. Walter`s upholstery establishment in Cheriton Road, and the Shakespeare Hotel), also the Burton Brewery in Tontine Street, in close proximity to one of Messrs. Gosnold and Co.`s drapery establishment, and another near High Street steps (long since disappeared) in Tontine Street was once in the possession of Messrs. C. and A. Dickenson. It is quite evident this firm believed in Folkestone water for the purposes of brewing. Here is an extract from a circular the firm issued three score years and ten ago: “We beg to inform the public that Folkestone water, as analysed by Professor Taylor, of Guy`s Hospital, is devoid of all deleterious matter, possessing qualities beneficial to general health; thus confirming the well known fact that Folkestone is one of the most healthy places in England. Its water contains every requisite for brewing Ales and Stouts. Thus they have entered into arrangements with Mr. Watson Martin, son of the eminent manager and brewer of Messrs. Ind, Coope & Co., brewers, Burton on Trent, who was for some time Brewer at Messrs. Bass & Co.”. The firm further declare that “they will use their utmost endeavour to supply the Folkestone public with Ales and Stout not to be surpassed by any brewers in the county”. And the pre-war prices! These are remarkable reading in the light of the present day, namely “Mild beer, 1s. per gallon, ditto ale, 1s. 6d., strong ale, 1s. 6d., pale ale, 1s., porter 1s., double brown stout 1s.”. The only relic of the Burton Brewery, Tontine Street, is the name it bequeathed to the Brewery Tap, over whose destinies another Professor Taylor presides. The premises of the old Cheriton Road brewery and its site, are, I notice, to be disposed of. These once belonged to the late Mr. Alderman Ham Tite, who passed away in his 90th year.

Note: Dickenson`s was not the small brewery mentioned at the bottom of the High Street steps, but the Burton Brewery, Tontine Street.
 

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