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Thursday 4 January 2024

Cooper`s Arms, Bayle Street c1830 - c1855

Licensees
John Kennett (Cooper) c1830 c1840
James Punnett c1840 c1846
George Featherbee c1846 1850
John Bridgeland 1850 1850
Henry Barber 1850 ????
Robert Baker 1851
John Ward 1852 1855 Renamed London Stores
 

Kentish Mercury 24-10-1840

An awful instance of the uncertainty of human life occurred here on Saturday evening, Oct 17th Mr. John Kennett, cooper, of Bail Street, having retried upstairs for the purpose of changing his dress, was found in a state of insensibility by his housekeeper, who was from home when he was taken ill. He died in about half an hour afterwards. The deceased, who was much respected, was in his 66th year, and unmarried.

Kentish Gazette 27-10-1840

An awful instance of the uncertainty of human life occurred here on Saturday evening, October 17th. Mr. John Kennett, cooper, of Bail Street, having retired upstairs for the purpose of changing his dress, was found in a state of insensibility by his housekeeper, who was from home when he was taken ill. He died in about half an hour afterwards.

Could this be the “John Kennett Cooper”, listed as 1st landlord of the Cooper`s Arms

Maidstone Gazette 16-4-1850

Petty Sessions, Tuesday; Before D. Major Esq., Mayor, W. Major and S. Mackie Esqs.

License transferred from John Back, of the Radnor Inn, to Henry Waight; from Wm. Edward Brooks, of the Oddfellows Arms, to Neal Dawson; from George Featherbe, of the Cooper`s Arms, to George Bridgland.

Notes: Transfer at Radnor Inn is earlier date for Back leaving, and if this is Henry Wraight it is much earlier start. Oddfellows Arms earlier date. Should this read Dawson Neal? Cooper`s Arms earlier date.

Maidstone Gazette 22-10-1850

Maidstone Gazette 22-10-1850

Petty Sessions, Wednesday; Before J. Bateman, C. Golder, T. Golder and W. Major Esqs.

The following licenses were transferred: From Samuel Cheeseworth, of the Marquis of Granby, to George Castle Hills; John Bridgeland, of the Cooper`s Arms, to Henry Barber; Henry Taylor, of the Freemason`s Arms, to Edward Wyborne.

Notes: Earlier date for Hills at Marquis; earlier leaving date for Bridgland at Cooper`s and Barber previously unknown.

Maidstone Gazette 12-8-1851

Petty Sessions, Wednesday; Before D. Major and W. Major Esqs.

Robert Baker, landlord of the Coopers Arms, was fined 8s. and costs for keeping a disorderly house on the 26th ult. The defendant went to the magistrates` clerk`s office, also to Mr. D. Major, one of the magistrates, after conviction, and conducted himself very improperly and insolently, and was locked up a short time.

Note: Robert Baker, Coopers Arms previously unknown.

Maidstone Gazette 9-9-1851

Annual Licensing Day; Before R. Hart Esq., Mayor, D. Major, W. Bateman and W. Major Esqs.

There were three applications for new licenses, viz., James Gaby Breach for a license to sell spirits &c., at the refreshment room on the harbour; Thomas Spicer for the Two Bells, Bridge Street, Canterbury Road; Thos. Taylor for the Darlington Arms, Shellons Lane.

Mr. Eves, of the Black Bull, attended, and objected to a license being granted to Thomas Spicer as unnecessary and injurious to his business; he handed in a memorial signed by the incumbent, churchwardens, and Lord Radnor`s agent (Mr. Hinton) &c.

The Magistrates having consulted, the Mayor, in giving their decision, stated that it had been the invariable custom here to grant licenses to all applicants, without reference to the necessity for them, a course he objected to, but as the majority of the Magistrates present were in favour of the applicant his license would be granted, as well as the other two.

All the old licenses were granted, except to Robert Baker, Cooper`s Arms; George Norris, Engine Inn; and Charles Hill, Radnor Inn. The sessions were adjourned for a fortnight, when the renewal of their licenses will be reconsidered by the Magistrates.

Note: Robert Baker, Coopers Arms previously unknown.

Canterbury Journal 13-9-1851

At the Annual Licensing Day there were three applications for new licenses, viz., James Gaby Breach for a license to sell spirits &c., at the refreshment room on the harbour; Thomas Spicer for the Two Bells, Bridge Street, Canterbury Road; Thos. Taylor for the Darlington Arms, Shellons Lane. Mr. Eves, of the Black Bull, attended, and objected to a license being granted to Thomas Spicer as unnecessary and injurious to his business; he handed in a memorial signed by the incumbent, churchwardens, and Lord Radnor`s agent (Mr. Hinton) &c.

The Magistrates having consulted, the Mayor, in giving their decision, stated that it had been the invariable custom here to grant licenses to all applicants, without reference to the necessity for them, a course he objected to, but as the majority of the Magistrates present were in favour of the applicant his license would be granted, as well as the other two.

All the old licenses were granted, except to Robert Baker, Cooper`s Arms; George Norris, Engine Inn; and Charles Hill, Radnor Inn. The sessions were adjourned for a fortnight, when the renewal of their licenses will be reconsidered by the Magistrates.

Note: Robert Baker, Coopers Arms previously unknown.  

Maidstone Gazette 23-9-1851

Adjourned General Licensing Meeting: This meeting took place on Wednesday, before R. Hart Esq., Mayor, and W. Major Esq. Three licenses which were suspended a fortnight ago, to give the Magistrates time to consider whether they should be granted or not, were granted, on the several parties promising to conduct their houses better in future.

Canterbury Journal 27-9-1851

At the Adjourned Licensing Day last week the three licenses which were suspended a fortnight ago, to give the Magistrates time to consider whether they should be granted or not, were granted, on the several parties promising to conduct their houses better in future.

Maidstone Journal 9-11-1852

Petty Sessions, Monday: Before W. Major & S. Mackie Esqs.

Robert Baker, landlord of the Cooper`s Arms Inn, was brought up in custody, charged with assaulting police constable Bass in the execution of his duty.

John Bass deposed – I am one of the Folkestone police. About twenty minutes past twelve o`clock on Sunday morning last, myself and constable Bean were coming down High Street, when we met the defendant, who came up and put his face close to mine, under my hat. I said nothing to him at the time, but passed down the street, the defendant following close to my heels and kicked them twice. He followed until we got opposite the station. I got out of the defendant`s way, and turned back again to go up the High Street, and the defendant still kept following me. I asked him what he wanted, and he said “What`s that to you?” I told him to go home about his business – he was drunk, and not fit to be about the street. He said he should go when he liked. I told him I could not suffer him to keep following me; I could not do my duty if he did. I told him if he did persist in doing it I should be obliged to lock him up. I then came across to the station door and opened it. I went across to him again, and when I got up close to him, he lifted up his arm and struck at me. I then laid hold of him, and with the assistance of constable Bean I took him into custody.

Cross-examined by the defendant:- You did kick my heels. I told Bean to assist me. I did not take out my staff and strike you. When you were in the station I did roughly take your money out of your pocket. I told you that I had not struck you so as to raise a lump on your head. You told me you were waiting up for lodgers.

John Bean, police constable, corroborated the last witness`s statement in every detail.

The defendant here asked the Magistrates to adjourn the case for a few hours, as his solicitor could not attend this morning, and besides, he had four witnesses to call in his favour.

The case was adjourned till the next morning at ten o`clock, when (before the same justices) the case was proceeded with.

The depositions taken yesterday were read, when the defendant, who had not a solicitor to plead for him, wished to call his four witnesses.

The Magistrates here asked Baker what they (the witnesses) were to prove, and he said they could prove he was sober at 12 o`clock. The Magistrates said the witnesses could not alter the case in the least, as the assault complained of was committed at ½ past 2.

Baker then made his statement, stating that Bass struck him with his staff on his head and arm, and he handed in a surgeon`s certificate, which showed he had been struck by some weapon, which caused a wound on his head; he also stated that he was sober, and was waiting up for some lodgers who were expected from Dover, and he was going down the street to meet them.

The Magistrates considering the assault proved, fined Baker £1 and costs, which were paid.

Southeastern Gazette 9-11-1852

Petty Sessions, Monday: Before W. Major & S. Mackie Esqs.

Robert Baker, landlord of the Cooper`s Arms Inn, was brought up in custody, charged with assaulting police constable Bass in the execution of his duty.

Bass deposed – At about 20 minutes past twelve o`clock on Sunday morning last, I and constable Bean were coming down High Street, when we met the defendant, who came up and put his face close to mine, under my hat. I said nothing to him at the time, but passed down the street. The defendant followed close to my heels and kicked them twice. When we came opposite the station, I got out of the defendant`s way, and turned back again to go up the High Street; the defendant still kept following me. I told him to go home about his business, that he was drunk, and not fit to be about the street, and that if he did persist in doing it I should be obliged to lock him up. I then came across to the station door and opened itm and then went across to him again, when he lifted his arm and struck me twice. I then, with the assistance of constable Bean, took him into custody.

Cross-examined:- I did not take out my staff and strike you. You told me you were waiting up for lodgers.

The defendant here asked the Magistrates to adjourn the case for a few hours, as his solicitor could not attend this morning, and besides, he had four witnesses to call in his favour.

The case was adjourned till the next morning, when it was proceeded with.

The defendant, who had not a solicitor to plead for him, wished to call his four witnesses.

The Magistrates asked him what they were to prove, and he said they could prove he was sober by twelve o`clock. The Magistrates considered they (the witnesses) could not alter the case, as the assault complained of was committed at half past two.

Baker then made his statement, stating that Bass struck him with his staff on his head and arm, and he handed in a surgeon`s certificate, which showed he had been struck by a weapon, which caused a wound on his head. He also stated that he was sober, and was waiting up for some lodgers who were expected from Dover, and he was going down the street to meet them.

The Magistrates considering the assault proved, fined defendant £1 and costs, which were paid. 

Folkestone Chronicle 13-10-1855

Tuesday October 9th :- Present W. Major Esq., G. Kennicott Esq., and J. Kelcey Esq.

The Adjourned General Licencing Meeting was held this day, when the following licences were granted to William Franks, Swan; Thomas Eves, Black Bull; William Samuel How, Cooper`s Arms; Henry Wraith, Radnor Inn; Henry Parks, Cherry Garden Tavern; and John Taylor, Mariner`s Home.

Southeastern Gazette 26-10-1858

Local News

The license of the Coopers' Arms was transferred to Philip Brown, of Clerkenwell. Last year the same license was granted to Mr. Brown, who transferred it to Mr. Dent, but on his application, and refusing to produce a character from where he had been residing, the license was refused.

Note: Dates and names are at variance with More Bastions.
 
Folkestone Observer 13-7-1861

Tuesday July 9th:- Before Captain Kennicott, R.N.

Disorderly conduct in a public house,

Filmer Tyas, on bail, was charged with disorderly conduct in the Cooper`s Arms, The Bayle, on the previous evening.

According to the evidence of Mr. Murphy, the landlord, and Sergeant Newman, the defendant came into the house on Monday evening, at a quarter to eleven, and having called for some drink, addressed the landlord in very offensive language, asserting that he would do what he liked in the house, and he`d be ------ if they should turn him out. When Sergeant Newman came to the house, he at first refused to leave with him, but ultimately went out, and was then given into custody. Mr. Murphy said his object was not to punish Tyas, but to obtain protection. If Tyas would promise not to come to his house again he would be satisfied. But Tyas was not disposed to get off in that way, and proceeded with a narrative of the delinquencies of the landlord, who kept his house open all night, played at dominoes with his customers, and got up the dispute on the previous evening because he lost with defendant at the game of “coddle”, and then abused him, taunting him with having been in Canterbury jail. Defendant called John Whittle to support his statement. The bench, as there had been irregularities on both sides, would not impose a fine, if defendant would pay the costs; and Murphy promptly offered to pay the costs, defendant repaying at his convenience, providing he would promise not to trouble him with his company again. Defendant would, however, have no such kindness. He had not a penny about him, and there was no money at home; he would go to prison, as he had been so treated. At length, by persuasion of his employer he said he would take Murphy`s offer, but as Murphy had by this time left the court, his employer advanced the money.
 
Folkestone Observer, Kentish Express 27-7-1861

Monday July 22nd:- Before th Mayor, R.W. Boarer and R.F. Browell Esqs

An Unmuzzled Dog

Patrick Murphy, Cooper`s Arms, was summoned for suffering his dog to go at large. Evidence was given as to the dog being at large in the streets, and being cared for during the last six months by the defendant; who, however, denied his ownership, saying it had been brought to his house for another person, who had gone away, and he was himself afraid of an action for damages should he destroy it. The bench dismissed the case.

Folkestone Observer 24-8-1861

Annual Licensing Sessions

The Magistrates sat on Thursday at the Sessions Hall for granting ale and spirit licences.

In the case of the Cooper`s Arms, The Bayle, some difficulty had occurred in consequence of an outgoing tenant`s neglect, and temporary authority was given until next transfer day. The Mayor remarked that the house had been conducted very badly during the past year. Mr. Murphy, the tenant in possession, said that he had a harmonic meeting on Saturday evenings, and that might give offence to persons of weak nerves. He also allowed persons to be there for sparring with gloves. He could not get a living in a place like The Bayle without some attraction to the house. The Clerk to the Magistrates was not to enable a man to get a living, but for the necessities of the neighbourhood. But because he had had a licence for the house he was not to imagine that he was to draw people there to get a living.

Murphy: It would be of no use without some attraction.

The Magistrates` Clerk: Yes, I think there is no necessity for a licence there.
 

Folkestone Observer 26-10-1861

Tuesday October 22nd:- Before Captain Kennicott R.N., and James Tolputt Esq.

Transfer of Licences

The following licence was transferred on Wednesday, namely, The Coopers Arms, the Bayle, from Philip Brown to Patrick Murphy

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