Thanks And Acknowledgements

My thanks go to Kent Libraries and Archives - Folkestone Library and also to the archive of the Folkestone Herald. For articles from the Folkestone Observer, my thanks go to the Kent Messenger Group. Southeastern Gazette articles are from UKPress Online, and Kentish Gazette articles are from the British Newspaper Archive. See links below.

Paul Skelton`s great site for research on pubs in Kent is also linked

Other sites which may be of interest are the Folkestone and District Local History Society, the Kent History Forum, Christine Warren`s fascinating site, Folkestone Then And Now, and Step Short, where I originally found the photo of the bomb-damaged former Langton`s Brewery, links also below.


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Welcome to Even More Tales From The Tap Room.

Core dates and information on licensees tenure are taken from Martin Easdown and Eamonn Rooney`s two fine books on the pubs of Folkestone, Tales From The Tap Room and More Tales From The Tap Room - unfortunately now out of print. Dates for the tenure of licensees are taken from the very limited editions called Bastions Of The Bar and More Bastions Of The Bar, which were given free to very early purchasers of the books.

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Whilst the above-mentioned books and supplements represent an enormous amount of research over many years, it is almost inevitable that further research will throw up some differences to the published works. Where these have been found, I have noted them. This is not intended to detract in any way from previous research, but merely to indicate that (possible) new information is available.

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Friday, 3 July 2015

Updates

3rd July, 2015: Folkestone Herald Results from 1986 Added.

I will be taking a short break now while I gather a lot more research material - mostly pre-1850. It all takes time and then has to be read through and articles transcribed. All I can say for now is that patience will pay off, because a previously unknown Folkestone pub will appear in the police reports in the mid 1850s. Who knows what other gems may be unearthed? For sure, the licensee lists will be amended. Anyway, posting will be resumed at the beginning of September. If you`ve any information that hasn`t appeared on the site, please feel free to mail me at the address given at the start of the Blog.

Prince Albert 1970s - 1980s



Folkestone Herald 13-2-1971

Annual Licensing Sessions

Police are keeping an extra careful eye on some pubs in Folkestone - particularly those popular among young people. This was revealed by Chief Superintendent W. Pullinger in his report to the annual meeting of the town’s Licensing Justices, on Wednesday.

He said that during 1970 licensed premises had been generally well-conducted. But he went on “As in most towns, certain premises require additional police supervision to ensure that the liquor licensing laws are not abused. This is sometimes due to slackness on the part of the licensee, or to popular premises attracting large numbers of young people”.

Mr. P.J. Baden-Fuller, the Chairman of the Justices, appreciated the difficulties licensees faced with young people. He said the Justices hoped that those licensees concerned would try to enforce the liquor laws, but added “It is so difficult to tell the ages of young people sometimes”.

Later, The Herald spoke to landlords of Folkestone pubs that are popular with youngsters – only to find they did not think they had a problem. Several of them agreed with Mr. Baden-Fuller that it was difficult to tell the ages ot some young cus­tomers. The answer to a difficult situation was, they agreed, firmness and rigidly follow­ing the maxim “If in doubt, don’t serve”.

At the Shakespeare, in Guildhall Street, Mr. Ron Balsom, the landlord, said “I have spent many years in London as a licensee, and the young people here are a lot different. I find them very reasonable and very well behaved. They certainly do not cause me any headaches”.

Mr. Alan White, landlord of the Prince Albert in Rendezvous Street, said “There is an occasional problem caused by young soldiers from Shorncliffe wanting a drink. You know who they are and you just have to handle the situation firmly. Trouble is caused when youngsters unused to alcohol have a few drinks and get a bit het up. A landlord has a duty to regular customers, and must make sure that kind of situation does not arise”.

At the West Cliff Shades, Christ Church Road, a spokesman said there were no problems worth mentioning, though there had been occasional instances of vandalism.

At the British Lion, in The Bayle, Mr. Gerry Hourahane said “It is difficult to judge ages, particularly those of foreigners. But if you ask them what year they were born they usually answer correctly without thinking”.

Another aspect of Chief Superintendent Pullinger`s report to the Justices was that hotels and restaurants are catering more for Continental visitors. The number of restricted licences granted to hotels, restaurants and other premises had increased, he reported. “This is no doubt due to more people requiring intoxicants for consumption with their meals, particularly in Folkestone, where the number of Continental visitors, especially day visitors from France and Belgium, continues to increase.

The report showed that 19 cases of drunkenness were dealt with by the police in 1970, compared with 16 in 1969, an increase “which does not reflect on licensed premises”. Fourteen cases of motorists unfit to drive through drink were also dealt with by the police – two fewer than in 1969. There are now 177 licensed premises in Folkestone. The police had no objec­tions to any licences being renewed.

Folkestone Herald 15-5-1971

Local News

When 1,400 continentals visit Folkestone next Thursday the doors of local pubs will be open to them all afternoon. On Tuesday local Magistrates decided in favour of a second application to allow 17 pubs to remain open especially for the visitors. They had vetoed a previous application. The second made by publicans was amended to allow for a half-hour break at 5.30 p.m. before their premises opened for the evening session.

Mr. J. Medlicott, for the publicans, told the Magistrates that the visitors were delegates attending a conference in Bruges. One of its highlights was to be a visit to England. He referred to a letter received by Folkestone Corporation from the British Tourist Authority supporting the publicans` application. The visit – by Dutch, Swiss, Belgians and Germans – was a special occasion, not just a shopping expedition, said Mr. Medlicott. It had been arranged by a Bruges tourist organisation which had particularly asked that pubs should be open in the afternoon.

Police Inspector R. Sanders made no formal objection to the application – but doubted whether the visit was a special occasion.

The Chairman of Folkestone Chamber of Trade, Mr. Alan Stephenson, said later “The cross-Channel visitors` committee of this Chamber is very pleased that this has been seen as a special occasion by the Justices. When one is reminded that this extension is no more than happens in many market towns every week of the year, it seems a fair request, especially as Folkestone’s image abroad could be much influenced by the original decision not to allow the pubs to open”.

The pubs which will stay open are; Jubilee, Ship, Oddfellows, Royal George, London and Paris, True Briton, Harbour Inn, Princess Royal, Clarendon, Brewery Tap, Earl Grey, Prince Albert, George, Globe, East Kent Arms, Guildhall and Shakespeare.

South Kent Gazette 2-2-1983

Local News

Licensee Alan White was blessing the wonders of low alcohol lager this week after being told that he had just been offered a free holiday in Denmark. For Alan, who has run the Prince Albert Hotel in Rendezvous Street for the past 19 years, has won first prize in a competition run by a leading brewery.

In order to win Alan, who is 62, had to complete a spot-the-difference contest and then extol the virtues of the low-alcohol lager Danish Light in less than 30 words. His winning entry was: Enjoy your evening drinking, You know you`ll be all right, For it`s quite safe to drink and drive, If you stick to Danish Light.

Now Alan and his wife, Kay, are looking forward to enjoying a weekend in Copenhagen staying at one of Denmark`s top hotels, The Copenhagen Admiral. The visit will also include a guided tour of the famous Faxe Brewery.

Photo from South Kent Gazette
 
Folkestone Herald 12-9-1986

Local News

A ship’s badge from the former H.M.S. Folke­stone may leave the town if a local buyer is not found. Landlord Alan White - who displays the solid-brass badge in the Prince Albert pub in Rendezvous Street - wants it kept on public display in the area after he retires in October. Originally it was in the Ship in Sandgate. When the landlord, George Warden, moved on, Mr. White bought the badge for £250. Since then it has adorned the wall of the bar in the Prince Albert, bringing good luck to regulars and staff. But Mr. White wants to sell it to someone who will keep it in the public eye when he leaves the area. “I don’t want any more than I paid for it”, he said, “but I will take it with me if no one comes forward”. And charity could benefit from the sale. If the badge goes for more than £250, the surplus will be given to the blind in Kent. The badge was taken from the sixth H.M.S. Folkestone, which operated as a convoy ship during the last war. It was broken up in 1948. The first ship to bear the name was built in 1704, and served with the Royal Navy until 1727. Bids for the badge should go to Alan White at the Prince Albert.

Folkestone Herald 19-9-1986

Local News

Three possible buyers have responded to an S.O.S. by pub landlord Alan White to keep a unique ship`s badge in Folkestone. Mr. White – landlord of the Prince Albert pub in Rendezvous Street – is selling the badge from the former H.M.S. Folkestone when he retires in October. It now hangs on the bar wall. But he wants the buyer to keep the badge on public display in the town - otherwise he will take it with him when he goes. The three bidders came forward after the Herald reported the badge was on sale last week. Mr White wants at least what he paid for it - £250. Anything over that sum will go to the Kent blind. “I can guarantee at least some money will go to charity if I can find the right buyer”, he said. The bidders are said to be people with a keen interest in maritime history. The Folkestone was the sixth ship of that name to serve with the Royal Navy. It was broken up in 1948. Enquiries about the badge should go to Alan White at the Prince Albert.

Folkestone Herald 10-10-1986

Local News

Another royal port of call has been found for the ship’s badge from the last H.M.S. Folkestone. The Prince of Wales pub in Guild­hall Street succeeds the Prince Albert in Rendezvous Street as home for the solid brass plaque. It had been in danger of leaving the Shepway area - where it has been on public display for over 30 years.

Alan White, retiring landlord of the Albert where the badge has spent the last 22 years, wanted to sell it to a local buyer. But only on condition that it would be kept in the public eye when he and his wife Kay left Rendezvous Street. Otherwise it went with him into safe keeping. His S.O.S. in the Herald was ans­wered by a concerned regular, who wants to stay anonymous. He bought the badge for £250, and donated it to the Prince of Wales where he also enjoys a pint.

Landlord Kevin Atkins - “Yorkie” to his friends - has pledged to keep the maritime relic in Folke­stone. “I will carry on the same tradition as Alan”, he said at Thursday night’s presentation by Mayor Kelland Bowden. “The badge will stay in Folkestone when I move on”. Mr Bowden told the packed Prince Albert that he remembered the ship’s badge when it hung on the bar wall at the Ship in Sandgate over 30 years ago. He also had the pleasant task of presenting £100 to the Kent Blind ¡ation’s Dave Garrod collected by customers at the Albert.

Alan and Kay White retired after 22½ years behind the bar of the Rendezvous Street pub at the end of last week. What would they remember most from over two decades of serving drinks? “Our friends in Folkestone”, said Mr. White, “and that includes our fellow licensees”.

 


Guildhall Hotel/Tavern 1970s - 1980s



Folkestone Herald 15-5-1971

Local News

When 1,400 continentals visit Folkestone next Thursday the doors of local pubs will be open to them all afternoon. On Tuesday local Magistrates decided in favour of a second application to allow 17 pubs to remain open especially for the visitors. They had vetoed a previous application. The second made by publicans was amended to allow for a half-hour break at 5.30 p.m. before their premises opened for the evening session.

Mr. J. Medlicott, for the publicans, told the Magistrates that the visitors were delegates attending a conference in Bruges. One of its highlights was to be a visit to England. He referred to a letter received by Folkestone Corporation from the British Tourist Authority supporting the publicans` application. The visit – by Dutch, Swiss, Belgians and Germans – was a special occasion, not just a shopping expedition, said Mr. Medlicott. It had been arranged by a Bruges tourist organisation which had particularly asked that pubs should be open in the afternoon.

Police Inspector R. Sanders made no formal objection to the application – but doubted whether the visit was a special occasion.

The Chairman of Folkestone Chamber of Trade, Mr. Alan Stephenson, said later “The cross-Channel visitors` committee of this Chamber is very pleased that this has been seen as a special occasion by the Justices. When one is reminded that this extension is no more than happens in many market towns every week of the year, it seems a fair request, especially as Folkestone’s image abroad could be much influenced by the original decision not to allow the pubs to open”.

The pubs which will stay open are; Jubilee, Ship, Oddfellows, Royal George, London and Paris, True Briton, Harbour Inn, Princess Royal, Clarendon, Brewery Tap, Earl Grey, Prince Albert, George, Globe, East Kent Arms, Guildhall and Shakespeare.

Folkestone Herald 22-5-1971

Local News

About 1,400 Germans successfully invaded Folkestone on Thursday to enjoy themselves. The visitors - members of the BMW enthusiasts’ club - strolled about the town shooting local scenes with their cine cameras and went shopping. Many bought driving gear, ranging from tyres to goggles and crash helmets - but fewer than expected went to the pubs. They were visiting Folkestone during an international convention of their club, held this week at Bruges, in Belgium. Local licensees had gained extensions of opening hours to cater for them. But it was the locals who patronised some of the 17 town centre and harbour area pubs that stayed open.

At the Shakespeare, in Guildhall Street, Mr. Ron Balsom, said “It was a com­plete waste of time staying open. I only had 13 Germans in all day”.

Mr. John Tobin, landlord of the East Kent Arms, in Sandgate Road, said most of his customers had been regulars.

The Oddfellows Arms, in The Stade, was closed by 3.15 p.m. A spokesman there said “It was a complete and utter waste of time”.

At the True Briton a spokesman said “We did very well - thanks largely to our regulars”.

The London and Paris, at the harbour, was busy, but a spokesman said the pub had not taken a great deal of money.

However, one very pleased landlady was Mrs. M.M. Lewis, at The Guildhall.  “It has been absolutely fantastic”, she said, "We have teen completely packed out with both German visitors and regulars".

Folkestone's publicity officer, Mr. Charles McDougal, said “The original letter we received from Belgium about this visit gave the departure time as 6 p.m. It was not until two days before the visit that we learned otherwise".

Mr. Alan Stephenson, chairman of Folkestone Chamber of Trade, said “These people wanted to come to Folkestone, and their visit gave them an opportunity to sample the pleasures of the town as a holiday resort rather than just a shopping centre”.

Folkestone Herald 18-6-1977

Local News

Last Monday and Tuesday may have been the Jubilee days – but for the Guildhall Hotel, Folkestone, the big day of the week was Wednesday. The hotel, in Guildhall Street, was judged to have the best Jubilee decorations in the whole of Kent and Sussex. Mr. A.J. Wyman, tied trade director of Whitbread-Fremlin, presented a cheque for £250 to the licensee, Mrs. Maud Lewis, and her daughter Eileen, who helps her in the business. The impressive decorations have, in fact, won a total of £400 – because the Guildhall had previously won a £50 area prize and a £100 regional prize. The hotel had been specially decorated with bunting, flowers and, of course, Union Jacks. One feature is a collection of old (£.s.d.) money and a collection of royal stamps.

The Guildhall is looking forward to celebrating an­other jubilee. In Septem­ber, Mrs. Lewis and her daughter will have been there for 25 years.
  

Photo from Folkestone Herald
 
Folkestone Herald 2-9-1983

Local News

A modern pizza restaurant could replace Folkestone`s Guildhall pub. Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited have submitted a planning application to Shepway District Council. A spokesman said if the company gets the go-ahead it will preserve the character of the pub when installing oak booths and tables. The company has 26 Pizza Huts in London and is searching for new sites all over the country. It is not a fast food chain but a full service restaurant which caters for 20-year-olds to families with young children, said the spokesman.

But the plans mean that landlady Mrs. Maude Lewis and her daughter Eileen will have to leave the Guildhall`s bar and move to the nearby Globe in The Bayle, Folkestone. The pair were told about a month ago that after 31 years they would have to move. The pub`s brewery is Whitbread, of which Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited is a subsidiary. “It was quite a shock”, said Eileen, but added “If it had to happen at least we are lucky enough to go to The Globe”.

The Globe`s present landlord, Mr. Ron Letts, is retiring in September.

Folkestone Herald 16-9-1983

Local News

Real ale drinkers are furious about plans to close a town centre pub. Members of the Campaign For Real Ale are set to lodge official objections to a proposal to shut down one of Folkestone`s oldest pubs, The Guildhall Hotel, and replace it with a pizza house. They say that if Whitbread Fremlin, the brewery who own the Guildhall, don`t want the pub then they should sell, either as a free house or to another brewery. Instead, a planning application has been submitted to Shepway District Council by Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited – a subsidiary of Whitbreads – seeking permission to convert the building into a restaurant. The company, which is currently searching the country for possible sites, says that, if it gets the go-ahead, it will preserve the character of the Guildhall and install oak booths and tables.

But CAMRA members seem singularly unimpressed. Speaking for the Ashford and Shepway Branch this week, Mr. Jan Pedersen said that the move was typical of Whitbread Fremlin`s apparent policy of closures in the town. He said that since 1982 one Whitbread pub in the town had closed permanently, two others had been merged and another three had been shut for a long period of time before being re-opened. “The loss of a traditional pub if these proposals go ahead will also mean the loss of an amenity”, said Mr. Pedersen, who asked “When did you last try holding a meeting or a darts or cribbage match in a restaurant?” He added that Guildhall Street already had plenty of restaurants. Mr. Pedersen urged people to support CAMRA in its objections to the Pizza Hut scheme. “We will be objecting but it is doubtful that we can win alone”, he said. “If you would be sorry to see the loss of yet another pub, write to the council telling them so. You elected them as your representatives, so now is your chance to see if they listen to the people they are meant to represent”.

But on Monday a spokesman for Whitbread Fremlins, Mr. Geoff King, said “These CAMRA people have got it completely wrong. The Guildhall is going to be closed for improvements and, when it re-opens, it will include a Pizza Hut operation but it will also be a pub selling real ales”.

Folkestone Herald 30-9-1983

Local News

After 27 years as landlords of the Globe pub, Ron and Barbara Letts are set to enjoy life on the other side of the bar. The couple bade farewell to their regulars at a retirement party on Monday but said they would more than likely pop back now and then. It was a hectic day as Ron and Barbara prepared to move out and new landladies Miss Eileen Lewis and her mother Mrs. Maude Lewis, of the Guildhall Hotel, Folkestone, took over. Neither Ron nor Barbara were sorry to leave the pub in The Bayle, Folkestone, and said they were looking forward to doing nothing. The couple moved to a flat in Guildhall Street. A decanter and six glasses was presented by Mr. John Norton, area manager with Whitbread Fremlins.

The Guildhall Hotel is closing, but a company called Pizza Hut (U.K.) Limited has submitted a planning application to Shepway District Council for permission to turn the pub into a modern pizza house.
 

Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 3-2-1984

Local News

The towels have gone up over a century of pub history as regulars supped their last pint and turned their eyes to watering holes anew. After more years than the most devout regular cares to remember the proprietors of the Guildhall in Folkestone have sounded the final bell on the old pub, and what was once the delight of the drinking classes is to be turned into a licensed pizzeria.

Pubs may come and fads may go, but British landladies live on forever and although it`s time at the Guildhall the licensee Mrs. Maud Lewis will continue serving pints at The Globe in The Bayle, assisting her daughter Eileen, who is licensee there. “I have been here 32 yeras and there have been some good times. It`s sad the old place will not be as it was but I shall be helping my daughter at The Globe and I expect to see many old friends there”, said Maud who is now 73.

On Friday Mr. John Kidson, managing director of Whitbread Fremlins, presented Maud with a cut glass decanter and glasses to mark her long service at the Guildhall. During the lunchtime ceremony she was also presented with a colour television, given as a mark of appreciation by Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers` Association and Ladies` Auxiliary. Mr. Kidson praised the 50 years of service Maud had given to the licensed trade and in particular to her 32 years behind the bar of the Guildhall.

But the highest praise of all came from locals who thronged the bar on Friday and also attended a wake on Sunday evening. "I have been coming in here ever since Maud took over. Now Maud is going to help out over at The Globe I shall be going over there”, said Mrs. Audrey Brandon. who works at a nearby fur­niture store. “It’s another landmark gone but at least we shall be able to preserve some of the pub’s atmosphere. It is the people that make that”.

Folkestone Herald 12-9-1986

Local News

The funeral service of Folkestone’s most famous former pub landlady, Maud Lewis, took place on Wed­nesday. Maud - who died last week aged 75 - was landlady at the old Guild­hall pub, until it closed in 1984, for 32 years. For much of the last two years of her life she helped her daughter Eileen at the Globe on The Bayle. In all, she gave over 50 years` service to the licensed trade. When she retired from the Guild­hall, Maud received many gifts and presentations from grateful regulars and friends. Members of the Guildhall Street Traders’ Association gave her an inscribed powder compact and the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers Association presented a colour television. She built up a solid following during her time at the pub. As one regular said when the Guildhall closed “I have been coming here ever since Maud took over. Now she is going to the Globe I shall be going over there. It is people that make a pub’s atmosphere”. Maud was buried at Herne Bay following a funeral service at Folke­stone Parish Church.