Memories from the pubs in and around Folkestone, with contemporary newspaper reports.
Thanks And Acknowledgements
My thanks go to Kent Libraries and Archives - Folkestone Library and also to the archive of the Folkestone Herald. For articles from the Folkestone Observer, my thanks go to the Kent Messenger Group. Southeastern Gazette articles are from UKPress Online, and Kentish Gazette articles are from the British Newspaper Archive. See links below.
Paul Skelton`s great site for research on pubs in Kent is also linked
Other sites which may be of interest are the Folkestone and District Local History Society, the Kent History Forum, Christine Warren`s fascinating site, Folkestone Then And Now, and Step Short, where I originally found the photo of the bomb-damaged former Langton`s Brewery, links also below.
Paul Skelton`s great site for research on pubs in Kent is also linked
Other sites which may be of interest are the Folkestone and District Local History Society, the Kent History Forum, Christine Warren`s fascinating site, Folkestone Then And Now, and Step Short, where I originally found the photo of the bomb-damaged former Langton`s Brewery, links also below.
Welcome
Welcome to Even More Tales From The Tap Room.
Core dates and information on licensees tenure are taken from Martin Easdown and Eamonn Rooney`s two fine books on the pubs of Folkestone, Tales From The Tap Room and More Tales From The Tap Room - unfortunately now out of print. Dates for the tenure of licensees are taken from the very limited editions called Bastions Of The Bar and More Bastions Of The Bar, which were given free to very early purchasers of the books.
Easiest navigation of the site is by clicking on the PAGE of the pub you are looking for and following the links to the different sub-pages. Using the LABELS is, I`m afraid, not at all user-friendly.
Contrast Note
Whilst the above-mentioned books and supplements represent an enormous amount of research over many years, it is almost inevitable that further research will throw up some differences to the published works. Where these have been found, I have noted them. This is not intended to detract in any way from previous research, but merely to indicate that (possible) new information is available.
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Saturday, 28 December 2013
Updates
December 28th, 2013: Folkestone Express Reports for 1913 Added
Alexandra Hotel 1910s
Folkestone
Daily News 28-2-1912
Wednesday, February 28th: Before Messrs.
Herbert, Leggett, Swoffer, Fynmore, Boyd, and Stainer.
Charles Brown, a respectably dressed man of good
appearance, was charged for the ninth time with being drunk and disorderly in
Harbour Street on Monday afternoon.
He is a resident of the West End and seems to have
these periodical outbreaks. He was convicted three times last year, and on the
last occasion was fined 20s. and costs, with the promise of imprisonment
without the option if he came again.
P.C. Kennett preferred the charge. He had been called
to the Alexandra Hotel to eject the defendant, who was drunk. Defendant became
very violent, a weakness which seems to be very prevalent with Kennett`s
clients. He caused a crowd to assemble, refused to comply with Kennett`s requests
to go away, and eventually that energetic officer, with the assistance of a
colleague, took him into custody.
Brown said he was sorry, and that was all he could say.
The Chairman lectured him on the enormity of his crime,
and pointed out how he was likely to jeopardise the interests of licensed
victuallers, and inflicted a penalty of 40s. and 9s. 6d. costs.
Defendant`s wife paid the fine.
Folkestone
Express 2-3-1912
Wednesday, February 28th: Before W.G.
Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer and G. Boyd Esqs., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and
Major Leggett.
Charles Brown was charged with being drunk and
disorderly. He pleaded Guilty.
P.C. Kennett said at 4.30 the previous day he was asked
by the landlord to eject the prisoner from the Alexandra Hotel. After some
difficulty he did so, but when outside the prisoner wanted to fight, and
started to shout and swear, causing a large crowd of people to assemble. With
the assistance of P.C. Sales witness brought him to the police station.
Brown said he was very sorry.
The Chief Constable said there were eight convictions
for drunkenness against prisoner, three being in last year. He appeared very
often, and by his conduct he was likely to injure the licensed premises in
which he had been misbehaving himself. Publicans had enough to do to keep order
without being troubled by such men as him. He would be fined 40s. and 4s. 6d.
costs, or one month`s hard labour.
Folkestone
Herald 2-3-1912
Wednesday, February 28th: Before Mr. W.G.
Herbert, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Major Leggett, Messrs. J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer
and G. Boyd.
Charles Brown, charged with being drunk and disorderly
on the previous day, pleaded Guilty.
P.C. Kennett said at about 4.30 the previous afternoon
he was requested by the landlord of the Alexandra Hotel to eject prisoner from
the premises. Witness had some difficulty in doing so. When outside prisoner
wanted to fight, started to shout and swear, and caused a crowd to collect. He
said he would not go away from the hotel until he had had another drink.
Finally, with the assistance of P.S. Sales, prisoner was brought to the police
station.
Accused said he could only say he was very sorry for
it.
The Chief Constable said there were eight previous
convictions against prisoner, three being during the last year. On the last
occasion he was fined 20s. and costs.
The Chairman said it was a disgraceful thing to see a
man in prisoner`s position in the Court. Publicans had enough to do without
keeping people such as prisoner in order. He would be fined 40s. and 4s. 6d.
costs, or one month`s imprisonment.
Folkestone
Express 12-7-1913
Tuesday, July 8th: Before J. Stainer Esq.,
Major Leggett, R.J. Linton, G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, W.J. Harrison, and E.T.
Morrison Esqs.
Jane Golding Dunn was charged with being drunk and
disorderly the previous night in South Street. She pleaded Not Guilty.
P.C. Weller said at 10.15 p.m. he was in South Street,
where he saw the prisoner. She was drunk and shouting. She refused to go away,
and caused a crowd to assemble, so he took her into custody.
Prisoner said she went to see her husband, who was
staying at his sister`s in South Street. She had been in the workhouse for a
month, and only came out that day. She found her husband in the Alexandra
public bar.
The Chief Constable (Mr. Reeve) said there were ten
previous convictions against the prisoner, the last being in September, 1911.
Fined 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, and in default of payment
she went down for seven days` hard labour.
Saturday, 21 December 2013
Updates
21st December, 2013: Folkestone Daily News Reports for 1912 Added.
Valiant Sailor 1910s
Folkestone
Daily News 15-11-1912
Friday, November 15th: Before Messrs.
Vaughan, Fynmore, Owen and Giles.
Horace Southon appeared to answer a summons charging
him with trespassing in search of conies on the land of Mr. Aird at the Valiant
Sailor. Mr. G.W. Haines defended and pleaded Not Guilty.
Prosecutor, Mr. Alfred Charles Aird, jun., deposed to
finding some snares on his ground on Saturday, the 9th inst., and to
watching the snares on Sunday, the 10th inst., when he saw defendant
kicking the bushes and carrying a gun on his arm as if ready to shoot. Witness,
by arrangement with a county constable, watched defendant, and from what
transpired subsequently defendant`s name and address were taken by the
constable. The land on which defendant was trespassing was in the sole
occupation of witness`s father, who retained the sole shooting rights. When
challenged, defendant said “I`m doing you no harm, Mr. Aird. I had shot a
pigeon on my ground, and was going to fetch it”.
Mr. Haines directed his cross-examination to show that
defendant`s allotment gardens were close under the spot where defendant was
carrying his gun, and that it was not an infrequent occurrence for wild pigeons
to fly in that direction.
P.C. Marshall, K.C.C., deposed to watching defendant by
arrangement with Mr. Aird, and to searching the man, who had in his possession
a gun at full cock.
Both witness and Mr. Aird, under cross-examination,
said the gun was at full cock, but neither looked to see if there was a cartridge
in the gun.
Mr. Haines put defendant in the box, Southon swearing
that he had an allotment adjoining the Crete Road. He had a gun licence, and
being swarmed with rats on the ground (the rats eating the crops), he made it a
practice to go up and shoot them on Sunday mornings. On this particular Sunday
morning from 12 to 14 wood pigeons flew over his allotment, and he fired and
shot one. It skimmed along the bank in the direction of Crete Road, witness
following and searching for the pigeon, when Mr. Aird came along and said “I`m
not looking after you; I`m looking after another party”. Witness accompanied
Aird along the road until they met the policeman. Witness swore that he never
went on Mr. Aird`s ground at all.
Ernest Grist, an allotment holder, deposed to being on
his ground (near defendant`s) on Sunday morning when he saw defendant shoot at
some wood pigeons, and, having fired, follow the bridle path to the Crete Road.
A large number of allotment holders kept guns to keep down the rats.
Mr. Haines addressed the Bench and relied upon the
rebutting evidence to secure a dismissal.
The Chairman said the Bench had come to the conclusion
that the evidence against the defendant was not sufficient to convict, and the
case would be dismissed.
Folkestone
Herald 16-11-1912
Friday, November 15th: Before Alderman T.J.
Vaughan, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Colonel Owen, and Mr. J.J. Giles.
Horace Southon was summoned for trespassing on land
near the Valiant Sailor in search of coneys. Mr. G.W. Haines represented the
defendant.
Alfred Charles Aird, of the Valiant Sailor, stated that
at about 7.40 the previous Sunday morning he was keeping observation on some
snares which he had seen on his ground previously. Whilst watching, he saw
defendant coming towards the Valiant Sailor on the land, kicking the gorse
bushes and carrying a gun. The land was not enclosed. Witness watched him for a
few minutes, and then procured the assistance of P.C. Marshall. He went home
for his bicycle, and subsequently met the defendant on the road. Witness asked
him what he had been doing on the land about twenty minutes previously. He
replied “I`ve done you no harm, Mr. Aird. I shot a pigeon on my allotment and
came to find it”. Witness said to him “You must come with me”. He took him to
the constable, who asked for his name and address, and searched him. The gun
was loaded and at full cock. There were no game or rabbits on the defendant.
Witness and his father were entitled to the shooting rights on this land.
Cross-examined by Mr. Haines: The defendant`s allotment
was about ¾ of a mile away from the spot on which witness saw him. It was below
the Crete Road, but not in a direct line. The snares were about 50 yards away
from the spot where witness saw prisoner, who was coming in the direction of
the snares.
P.C. Marshall, stationed at Hawkinge, also gave
evidence.
Cross-examined by Mr. Haines, witness said he heard the
defendant make some observation about shooting pigeons. Witness found no
ammunition of any kind on the defendant.
Defendant, on oath, said that he had an allotment under
the hills adjoining the Crete Road. He had a gun licence because the place was
overrun with rats. Wild pigeons came over from the other side of the Channel in
thousands during the winter. The previous Sunday he shot at a pigeon flying
over his allotment. He hit one, but he did not see where it fell. He left his
allotment and went up the Crete Road, looking for the bird. It was whilst he
was doing this that Mr. Aird came along on his cycle. Defendant accompanied him
to the constable, and in his presence told Mr. Aird that he was up there for
the purpose of getting this pigeon.
Cross-examined by Mr. Andrew, defendant said he was
three or four hundred yards away from his allotment when he spoke to Mr. Aird.
Ernest Grist, of Pavilion Road, said he had an
allotment near the defendant`s. He knew that at this time of year many pigeons
did come over the water. On Sunday he heard the report of a gun, and saw the
defendant standing in his allotment with a smoking gun in his hand. Witness saw
a number of pigeons. He also saw the defendant go up the hill.
Mr. Haines maintained that this was a case started and
founded on suspicion.
The case was dismissed.
Folkestone
Express 23-11-1912
Friday, November 15th: Before Alderman
Vaughan, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, J.J. Giles Esq., and Colonel Owen.
Horace Southon was summoned for trespassing in search of conies on land belonging to Mr.
Aird. Defendant pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. G.W. Haines defended.
Alfred Charles Aird, of the Valiant Sailor, said on
Sunday at 7.45 a.m. he was keeping observation on some snares which had been
placed the day previous on ground in his father`s occupation, when he saw the
defendant coming towards the Valiant Sailor on the land, kicking the gorse
bushes as he went along. He was also carrying a gun in his hand. He watched him
for some few minutes, and then fetched P.C. Marshall of the Kent C.C., who he
left on the road, while he procured his bicycle. The constable went along under
the hill and he went along the top. He eventually came across the defendant,
and asked him what he had been doing on the land previously. He replied “I have
done no harm, Mr. Aird; I shot a pigeon in my allotment and came to find it”.
He told him that he must come with him to the constable, who then took the
defendant`s name and address. He also searched him, and the gun was found to be
loaded and at full cock. They found no game or rabbits on him. He (witness`s)
father and himself had the shooting rights over the land.
Cross-examined, witness said the defendant`s allotment
was about three quarters of a mile away. It was below the Crete Road. The
defendant was walking away sharply when he overtook him.
P.C. Marshall, of the Kent County Police, said at 7.45
on Sunday morning he was near the Valiant Sailor, when he saw Mr. Aird, and he
afterwards went below the hill near the Sanatorium. He then saw a man carrying
a gun walking amongst the gorse bushes twenty or thirty yards from the road. He
later saw Mr. Aird overtake the man, so he went up to him.
Cross-examined, witness said he heard the defendant say
something about having been shooting pigeons. When he first saw the defendant
he was twenty or thirty yards from the crest of the hill. He found no
cartridges or ammunition on the defendant. He heard no gun fired.
Defendant, giving evidence on oath, said he had an
allotment about sixty or seventy yards from the Crete Road. He had a gun
licence. They were swarmed with rats on the allotments, so he went up to shoot
them on a Sunday morning. About that time of the year a large number of wild
pigeons flew across. On Sunday morning he shot at some pigeons which flew over
his allotment. One fell, so he went up the bridle path leading to Crete Road,
and when he got there he looked after the bird. Mr. Aird then came up and said
he was not looking after him, but another man. He went with him to the
constable. He was about three or four hundred yards from his allotment garden
when he met Mr. Aird.
Ernest Grist, of 4, Pavilion Road, said he had an
allotment near the defendant`s. On Sunday morning he was in the allotment, and
whilst there he heard the report of a gun from under the hills. The defendant
was in his allotment with his gun. At the time he heard the gun he noticed a
number of pigeons fly over the hill. He later saw the defendant go up to the
hill.
The Chairman said the Magistrates considered there was
not sufficient evidence to convict, so the defendant would be discharged.
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