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Saturday 28 February 2015

George 1960s



Folkestone Herald 8-9-1962

Obituary

Mr. Leonard William (“Sam”) Hollands, licensee of the George Inn, George Lane, Folkestone, died at the age of 61 on Wednesday, after a long period of ill-health. He leaves a widow.

Mr. Hollands began his long connection with the brewing and licensing trade at the age of 18, when he commenced work at Hythe Brewery, where his father was yard foreman. He later left to become the licensee of the King`s Arms, Boxley. After working in various capacities, Mr. Hollands became licensee of the Star Inn, Stade Street, Hythe, in 1945. Ten years later he moved to the George, at Folkestone. Mr. Hollands worked actively for the Folkestone and District Branch of the Licensed Victuallers` Association, and was in turn Treasurer, Vice Chairman and Chairman, holding the latter office from 1954-56. He was then made a life Vice President. During the same period Mrs. Hollands was of the Women`s Auxilliary of the L.V.A. Mr. Hollands also served on the Kent Brewers` and Licensees` Panel, the Kent Federation, and the South East District of the L.V.A.

A funeral service will be held at Folkestone Parish Church at 3.15 on Monday afternoon, and will be followed by cremation at Hawkinge.

Folkestone Gazette 17-4-1963

Local News

The following application for transfer of licence was granted by the Folkestone Licensing Magistrates on Wednesday: George Inn, George Lane, Folkestone, from Mrs. K. Hol­lands to Mr. R.C. Guard.


Folkestone Herald 13-2-1965

Local News

Police statements about the responsibility of publicans towards drunken drivers have brought protests from local landlords. Superintendent Frederick Coatsworth said at Seabrook last week that licensees exerted a tremendous influence on their customers and had a vital role to play in the prevention of offences involving drink, especially where motorists were concerned.

Reaction from Mr. Reg. Gard, landlord of the George Inn in George Lane, Folkestone, was “It just doesn’t make sense. We’re supposed to be mind- readers now, asking customers their age to see if they are over 18. The only thing we can do is to refuse to serve drinks to anyone who has obviously had too much. And, of course, thirsty motorists could always wear a ticket around their necks saying “I’m a driver. Please can I have a drink?””

Mr. Ron Letts, licensee of the Globe on The Bayle, said “It’s ludicrous. Our job is to sell drinks. A fair proportion of my customers are drivers, and in the nine years I have been here I have found they are generally responsible people. On the odd occasion, when you know your customer, it’s O.K. to say “Give me your keys—you’d better take a taxi home”. But how can you say that to a perfect stranger?”

Mr. Alec Wales, of the Lon­don and Paris, near the Har­bour, who is chairman of Folkestone, Hythe and Dis­trict Licensed Victuallers’ Association, put most of the blame on restaurants. “You cannot hold a pub­lican responsible for what customers drink”, he declared. “I don’t allow anyone who is obviously drunk in my house, but when they can get served at a restaurant, what can you do? I certainly don`t think the majority of drunks come from pubs”.

At Folkestone Brewster Sessions on Wednesday Supt. Coats worth reiterated his opinion. “Licensees, particularly those whose premises attract what is known as the motor car trade, have a vital contribution to pay in regard to safety on the roads”, he said. The police are the first to realise in a town such as Folkestone that all persons do not obtain their liquor in licensed premises. But, as responsible citi­zens, licensees can exert a great influence on their cus­tomers by always bearing in mind the effect which alcohol taken in excess might have on drivers of a motor vehicle”.

The last word came from Mrs. Maud Lewis, licensee of the Guildhall Hotel, chairman of the Women’s Auxiliary of the local L.V.A. After Brewster Sessions she told the Herald “We all try to do our stuff. If we think customers have had enough we tell them so. Irrespective of whether they`re driving or not, I`m firm with them on the question of drink”.

Folkestone Herald 11-2-1967

Local News

Three weeks after he was fined £10 on an assault charge a soldier with the 1st Bat­talion, K.O.S.B., stationed at Shorncliffe, appeared before Folkestone magistrates again on Tuesday. Private Robert McGhie pleaded Guilty to maliciously wounding another man in a public house fight and was fined £50.

Inspector E.K. Robinson said that at 10.50 p.m. on Friday police were called to the George public house in George Lane, Folkestone. From there the man McGhie assaulted was taken to hospital for treatment to facial bruises and laceration. McGhie himself was arrested after a struggle.

McGhie, who appeared in court with a black eye and his right arm in plaster, admitted two previous convictions for violence. He told the magistrates that he did not become in­volved in the fight until some­one hit him. When that happened he struck back, but he did not know who he hit.

Folkestone Gazette 18-10-1967

Local News

Committal proceedings at Folkestone Town Hall on Friday were interrupted for a time as a Magistrate, a witness, prosecution and defence solicitors, police and the accused visited the scene of an alleged crime. The unusual step was taken to clarify the position of a key witness at the time of an incident in Rendezvous Street, Folkestone.

Brothers Michael Laws, aged 25, of Cliff Villas, Folkestone, and George Laws, aged 26, of Alexandra Gardens, Folkestone, were jointly accused of malicious wounding, attempted grievous bodily harm, malicious damage and actual bodily harm. Michael Laws was also accused of possessing an offensive weapon, while George Laws was further accused of possessing an offensive weapon, malicious damage and driving while disqualified.

Mr. A.C. Stokes, prosecuting, said that incidents happened when Mr. John Wilcox, a fishmonger, of Bolton Road, Folkestone, and Miss Elizabeth Smith, of Bolton Road, Folkestone, were in the George public house at Folkestone on September 8. At closing time, as they helped to clear up, an argument developed between Mr. Wilcox and the Laws brothers, who were in the saloon bar. During a scuffle, he said, George Laws picked up a bar stool and hit Mr. Wilcox with it, causing a wound on his head. Miss Smith became hysterical, started throwing glasses around, and was locked in a lavatory by the licensee, said Mr. Stables. After that incident Mr. Wilcox and Miss Smith went to their van, parked in Rendezvous Street. It was about 1 a.m. But then, alleged Mr. Stables, The Laws brothers arrived in another van. George had in his possession a starting handle, and Michael a knife. Then George hit Mr. Wilcox with the starting handle and Michael punched. There was no suggestion that Michael used the knife, he said. Mr. Wilcox, he added, broke loose and ran down Rendezvous Street to a telephone box. He dialled 999, but got no further as the two men dragged him out of the telephone kiosk on to the pavement. Mr. Wilcox again broke loose and the Laws brothers returned and set about Mr. Wilcox`s van, said Mr. Stables, breaking the windscreen. George Laws, who was using the starting handle, threw the handle through Plummer Roddis` window. They then chased Mr. Wilcox around the streets in their van, and were at times “perilously close” to him. One of them jumped out of the van and ran after Mr. Wilcox while the other one drove. Fortunately, said Mr. Stables, a Mr. Robinson got Mr. Wilcox into his van and took him away. In the meantime, Miss Smith, having seen the attack on Mr. Wilcox, had tried unsuccessfully to phone the police from the George public house. She went to a police pillar box in Sandgate Road, but unknown to her it was no longer in use because police are now equipped with personal radio communications. The Laws brothers drove up in their van and asked her what she was doing. Miss Smith told them she was trying to phone for a taxi, said Mr. Stables. They got out of their van, but then George drove the van into Alexandra Gardens, said Mr. Stables, adding that evidence would be given that he had been banned from driving for 10 years. On other occasions the vehicle had been driven by Michael. Mr. Stables alleged that the two brothers then punched and kicked Miss Smith and she received bruises to her body and her hand swelled up. Mr. Stables added that somehow Michael Laws had received a cut or stab, but it was not clear how.

Mr. Michael Davis, of Albert Road, Hythe, said that he was engaged on doing some internal work at Plummer Roddis` store on the first floor when his attention was drawn to a commotion outside. He looked out of a window and saw a blue van. “I then saw another vehicle. I believe it was a Standard, but I am not sure about that. It appeared to be a light grey colour. It stopped right in front of the blue van and two chaps got out. I noticed that one was in shirt sleeves and that one was a little taller than the other. The chap in the shirt sleeves had a starting handle. He came out of the passenger side of the vehicle”. Mr. Davis said that one of the men was left on his own with the two who had got out of the light coloured vehicle. He alleged that the man with the starting handle hit the man who had been left on his own on the bottom of the neck – what he would call a light blow.

At this point the Magistrates` Clerk, Mr. S. Winchester, told the two brothers “Take your hands out of your pockets. You did not come here to lounge about as if you were in a cinema. And stop having long conversations with your brother. If you want to talk to your solicitor tap his shoulder if you want to draw his attention”.

Cross-examining, Mr. W.E. Court, defending the Laws brothers, asked if it was possible for the Court to see exactly from which window Mr. Davis observed these things. They visited the scene and it was established that he had been looking from the third window of the first floor at the lower part of the hill in Rendezvous Street.

On their return to the Court, Mr. Wilcox said that after the incident in the public house Miss Smith and another man walked towards their van. Then, he said, another van pulled up in front of his. In it were the Laws brothers. He said there was “a bit of a scuffle”, and he was punched a couple of times. He estimated the damage to his vehicle to be in the region of £60. “I had five stitches in my head”, he said.

Miss Elizabeth Smith, of Bolton Road, Folkestone, said that the first disturbance arose after she had been playing dice with Michael Laws.

In cross-examination by Mr. Court, Miss Smith said that there was no question of her having got hysterical while she was in the George public house.

A brewery labourer, Mr. Damon Robinson, of Stanbury Crescent, Folkestone, said that he and som friends picked up a man who was being chased. The man was bleeding from a cut on the head, and his suit had been cut. He seemed to be exhausted.

D.C. George Hough said that he and another detective were called to the junction of Grace Hill and Foord Road and examined Laws` vehicle. Under the dashboard, he said, a wooden-handled knife was found. Later, said D.C. Hough, Michael Laws made a state­ment in which he admitted having been at the George public house and being in­volved in a scuffle.

The hearing was adjourned until next Tuesday.

Folkestone Gazette 1-11-1967

Local News

Because of lack of evidence two charges against a 25-year-old fisherman were withdrawn by the prosecution at the continuation of committal proceedings at Folkestone Town Hall last Tuesday. A further charge against Michael Laws, of Cliff Villas, Folkestone, jointly with his brother George, of Alexandra Gardens, Folkestone, of attempted grievous bodily harm, was changed to one of using threatening behaviour with intent to provoke a breach of the peace. The brothers were jointly accused of using threatening behaviour with intent to provoke a breach of the peace; of unlawful and malicious damage and causing actual bodily harm. George Laws was further accused of unlawful malicious wounding, carrying an offensive weapon, unlawful damage to a plate glass window, and driving while disqualified.

The charges resulted from a series of alleged incidents in September, starting with a scuffle in the George public house and later in Rendezvous Street and the vicinity of Tontine Street. It had been alleged that Mr. John Wilcox and Miss Elizabeth Smith, of Bolton Road, Folkestone, had been assaulted by the two brothers, and that Wilcox`s car had been damaged by them.

Mr. A.C. Staples, prosecuting, admitted that there was insufficient evidence against Michael Laws of malicious wounding and possessing an offensive weapon, namely, a knife, and he would not press those charges. Regarding the charge the two brothers faced of attempted grievous bodily harm, Mr. Staples said that there was insufficient evidence of Mr. Wilcox having been hit with a car starting handle, and he suggested to the Magistrates that an alternative charge, of using threatening behaviour in a public place, with intent to provoke a breach of the peace, should be considered instead.

Detective Constable Brian Darnell said in evidence that he was called to Rendezvous Street on September 9, where he saw Wilcox and Miss Smith. Mr. Wilcox, he said, had an injury to his head, and Miss Smith was in a hysterical condition, was without shoes and was holding her arm. Later, when he searched the Laws brothers` car, he found a steel knife, but Michael Laws explained that it was used in his job. At the police station, D.C. Darnell said, Michael Laws was questioned, and a statement was made by him. D.C. Darnell said that he then saw George Laws, who told him that Wilcox had started the fight. In reply to the allegations, George Laws told him “I don`t know who said all this, but they are lying”. D.C. Darnell continued, “I said to him that it would also appear he and his brother smashed up Wilcox`s van, and that one of them had driven their van into Wilcox`s van. He replied “No””. D.C. Darnell read a statement in which George Laws was alleged to have said that his brother`s head was injured in the scuffle in the public house and that after leaving the George they went to their vehicle and noticed that it was damaged, and that the van near to theirs had the windscreen smashed in.

In cross-examination by Mr. W.C. Court, defending the brothers, D.C. Darnell said that Michael Laws had received a puncture wound on the left side of his body and had to have a stitch inserted at the Royal Victoria Hospital. He also had a superficial injury to his head, which was bleeding. Asked if there were any other disturbances in Folkestone around the time of the alleged incidents, D.C. Darnell replied that he had been assaulted prior to this happening. “This was when I chased a man from the Odeon Bar and ran down Rendezvous Street into the Dover Road area”, he said.

Mr. Court: Had there been any disturbance in Tontine Street?

D.C. Darnell: I was not present, but I think there was.

Mr. Court: This was going on at the same time?

D.C. Darnell: I don`t honestly know.

The brothers were remanded on bail to await trial at Folkestone Quarter Sessions, which commence on November 9.

Folkestone Gazette 15-11-1967

Quarter Sessions

Further jurors had to be called when several were challenged at the start of a case involving two Folkestone brothers charged with a total of seven offences, including malicious wounding, at Folkestone Quarter Sessions. The defence questioned the eligibility of seven jurors and the prosecution one.

At the end of a two-day hearing on Thursday and Friday, George Arthur Laws, a self-employed painter, of Alexandra Gardens, who was said to have served two terms of imprisonment, was fined £50 for maliciously damaging a car owned by Mr. John Wilcox, of Bolton Road, Folkestone.
He was told that he would be sent to prison for two months if he did not pay the fine. Laws was also found guilty of possessing an offensive weapon, a car starting handle, and given a conditional dis­charge. The jury found Laws, aged 26, Not Guilty on five other counts. They were: Maliciously wounding Mr. Wilcox; using threatening behaviour; assaulting Miss Elizabeth Smith, of Bolton Road, Folkestone; maliciously damaging a plate glass window at Plummer Roddis Ltd.; and driving while disqualified. Laws` brother, Michael, aged 25, a fisherman, of Cliff Villas, was fined £50 for damaging the car. He was found Not Guilty on the charges of assaulting Miss Smith and using threatening behaviour. Both brothers were ordered to pay £25 compensation to Mr. Wilcox, a fishmonger, for the damage to his car.

All the charges arose from a fight in the George Inn on September 8 and incidents that followed in the streets of Folkestone in the early hours of the next day, when Mr. Wilcox and Miss Smith alleged they were chased by the two brothers.

In Court, George Laws agreed that following an argument he called Miss Smith a slag. It was his intention to insult her. Wicox came running through from the public bar. As he did so, George Laws said he got off a stool on which he had been sitting and Wilcox picked it up. They struggled with it in between them. He denied that he hit Wilcox over the head with the stool. He saw his brother hit on the head with a bottle by Miss Smith. He also saw Wilcox with a knife in his hand in the public house and he saw Wilcox stick it into his brother`s left side. After leaving the public house, he and his brother drove off in their van. He spent some time trying to persuade his brother to go either to hospital or the police because of the knife wound. As far as he was concerned he knew nothing more of the incidents which were alleged to have taken place.

In cross-examination he said he did not mention the stabbing when he was questioned by the police because he did not think he and his brother would have any charges brought against him.

Michael Laws said in Court that he did not have anything to do with any chase of Mr. Wilcox. He also had nothing to do with any damage caused to the car or the window. He noticed that Mr. Wilcox`s car had been smashed, but did not know who had done it. Laws claimed that he knew nothing about the damage to the plate glass window. He and his brother were on their way to the hospital when arrested by the police.

Mrs. Pamela Chapman, wife of the licensee of the George Inn, Mr. Denis Chapman, said in Court that she had been playing dice with Miss Smith and the two Laws brothers. Michael Laws mentioned to Miss Smith that she owed him £4. Miss Smith started to use bad language. Miss Smith must have thrown at least two dozen glasses and some bottles. Mrs. Chapman said she had not seen a stool raised. Michael Laws tried to stop Miss Smith throwing glasses. Miss Smith was locked in the ladies` lavatory. The Laws brothers both left the pub when she asked them, said Mrs. Chapman. Mr. Wilcox stayed in the pub for about 15 minutes after the Laws brothers had left. He had a knife about a foot long, and said to Mrs. Chapman “The next time you see those two boys you won`t recognise either of them”. Mrs. Chapman told the Court that some time after the incidents she received an anonymous phone call threatening her to keep quiet about the knife. “I was very frightened by it”, she added. In October she saw Miss Smith sitting on the doorstep of the pub. In a conversation that followed Miss Smith said she had got George Laws into plenty of trouble by telling the police that she had seen him driving his brother`s van on the night of the fighting although she had not seen this. On hearing this Mrs. Chapman contacted the Laws brothers` solicitors.

Asked by the prosecution if she was a close friend of George Laws, Mrs. Chapman replied: “I don't know him any better than most of my customers”.

The Court was told that George Laws had seven pre­vious convictions.  He had been banned from driving for 10 years and sent to prison for 18 months in 1963 for causing death by dangerous driving. He had also served another prison term.

Folkestone Herald 30-3-1968

Local News

A Folkestone man was acquitted at Sussex Assizes on Tuesday on charges of wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm and malicious wounding.

The man, 32-year-old scaffolder, John Joseph Barker, of Shorncliffe Road, pleaded Not Guilty to both charges. He was alleged to have committed the offences at the George public house, Folkestone, when, after a fight, a 26-year-old marine engineer, Francis Pope, of Ingoldsby Road, Folkestone, had to receive 23 stitches for a head wound.

Pope, in evidence, said he went to the George on February 16 about closing time and had four pints of keg beer. He also went to other public houses that night and had seven or eight pints and perhaps a whisky. He met Barker in the George bar and told him he would like to discuss a private matter. They went into the children`s room. There was an argument which became a bit heated and they came to blows. They were punching each other and Mr. Dennis Chapman, the landlord, separated them. There was a further fight and they both fell to the ground. Soon afterwards Pope found he had a cut on his cheek and was helped upstairs and later went to hospital. He said he went to the George for a quiet drink and claimed that Barker struck the first blow. But he admitted he probably told Barker he was going to “knock Hell out of him”.

In cross-examination, Pope said it was rubbish to say he was a bully and spoiling for a fight, and not true that he had provoked Barker all the time. He admitted never having seen Barker with a knife.

Mrs. Mary Crozier, bar­maid at the George, and former friend of Barker, said that when Pope arrived at the pub he was drunk. She saw him butt Barker in the stomach and set on him with his fists raised. They rolled on the floor together. She saw Barker with a knife in his hand, but she took it from him. At the time there was broken glass on the floor. Mrs. Crozier added “I never saw Barker use a knife on Pope; he wouldn`t even fight back”.

Medical evidence said that Pope`s injuries could have been caused by him falling on broken glass.

Barker, in evidence, said he was drinking shandies. After Pope came to the pub he went into a private room at Pope`s request and was struck in the stomach and face. At no time did he use a knife on Pope. He pulled out a knife from his pocket after he heard someone shout “Watch him; he`s got a knife”. He thought he was being attacked from behind as well by another man. He told Mr. Justice Thompson he believed someone else had a knife at that moment. He admitted he would have used the knife if he had been attacked with one, but at no time did it come into contact with Pope.
 

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