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Saturday, 29 March 2014

Globe (2) 1910s



Folkestone Daily News 30-12-1912

Friday, December 27th: Before Messrs. Herbert, Stainer, Swoffer, Boyd, Harrison, Morrison, and Stace.

Alexander McKenzie, a piper of the 2nd Seaforth Highlanders, was charged with wilfully breaking the glass panel of the door of the Globe Hotel the previous night. Prisoner pleaded Not Guilty.

Alfred Peter Fox, the licensee of the Globe, deposed that at about 10.30 the previous evening prisoner came into the hotel. He went into the bar parlour, but had not been there ten minutes when he (witness) heard an altercation. The barman asked prisoner to go outside, and when witness went to se what was going on, he saw the barman take hold of prisoner by the shoulder and put him out. Someone in the bar shouted out “Who wants to fight?”, and prisoner said “I do”. That was the reason he was asked to leave the house. Prisoner did not resist much, but when he got out of the house he turned round and rushed back at the man he was having the altercation with. The man got out of the way, and the prisoner threw himself at the glass, in temper, witness thought, and either his shoulder or elbow went through the glass. Witness then fetched a policeman and gave accused into custody. Prisoner was not the worse for drink at the time. Witness valued the window at 35s. Accused was not a regular customer and he came in alone, but there were two or three men of his regiment in the bar.

The Chief Constable: Is that quite the story you told the police last night?

Witness: As near as I can say, it is.

The Chief Constable: Did you not tell the police that the prisoner deliberately pushed the other man through the glass panel of the door?

Witness: I said he tried to push him through.

Joseph Reynolds, barman at the Globe Hotel, said he was in the bar parlour during the whole of the time that prisoner was there. Someone in the bar said “Who wants to fight?”, and prisoner said “I do”. Witness then went and asked him to go out, as he began to “square about” and had taken his belt off. He refused to leave, and witness put him out. He struggled a bit, but witness got him into the street. The other man showed himself at the door as if he wanted to go out, and prisoner rushed at him. That was how the window got broken. The man stepped back just as prisoner rushed. Witness did not think the window was broken wilfully; he thought it was broken in the rush. He could not see clearly what portion of prisoner`s body struck the window.

The Chairman: There is no case whatever against the prisoner; he is discharged.

Addressing Mr. Fox, Mr. Herbert said: We have heard at various times a good many complaints about the noisiness of your house. You had better be careful in future.

Mr. Fox said he had had the house several years, but there had been no disturbance of any description.

The Chairman said there had been complaints about the noise, and in future Mr. Fox had better be careful.

Folkestone Express 11-3-1916

Local News

Yesterday (Thursday) the Magistrates, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, J.J. Giles and H.C. Kirke Esqs., heard a case under the “No treating” Order, when George Cozens, the licensee of the Guildhall Hotel, was summoned for allowing his employee to supply intoxicating liquor to a person not having paid for it. He pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. G.W. Haines defended.

Alfred Peter Fox was charged with permitting drunkenness on the licensed premises of the Globe Hotel. Mr. Rutley Mowll (Dover) defended, pleading Not Guilty.

P.C. H. Johnson said at 7.55 p.m. on February 29th he was near the Globe Hotel, The Bayle, when he saw the defendant with two soldiers ejecting a drunken soldier from the private bar. Outside the soldier fell down in a helplessly drunken condition. He remained there a few minutes, and was then taken away by the two others in the direction of High Street. When standing there he heard a commotion going on inside the private bar facing east. The door was opened by the landlord and two soldiers dragged out another drunken soldier and put him on the pavement. Miss Kirby was standing near so he asked her to go for the picquet. As she was some time gone he went to Rendezvous Street and then down High Street, returning in a few minutes. The house was then closed and the soldier was gone.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll, witness said he did not go into the house at all before eight o`clock. Two of the soldiers he saw were drunk, two under the influence of drink, and the other two were sober.

Miss Kirby said on February 29th she was opposite the Globe Hotel about 7.45, and she saw the bar door open and three soldiers come out. One of them was very drunk and incapable, and he fell to the ground. She saw P.C. Johnson come up just before eight o`clock. During the time she was opposite the house she saw no soldier enter the bar from the outside. No other soldier left the bar during the time she was there. There was a struggle between the three men before the drunken soldier fell. She went to fetch the picquet. When she returned about four minutes later with the picquet the soldier was lying on the road, and another soldier, very drunk, was staggering about the roadway. She could not say that the men she then saw were the same she had seen come out. The picquet arrested the two men.

Mr. Mowll, at this stage, said he was not going to deny that the men were drunk.

Corporal Bailey, Military Police, said he was in charge of the picquet shortly after eight o`clock. He found one of the men lying in the gutter, and another man stooping over him. Both were drunk, and he arrested them.

P.S. Sales said he went to the Globe Hotel on the following morning and saw the landlord. He told him that two soldiers were seen to leave his premises the previous evening about eight o`clock drunk, and that he should report him for permitting drunkenness. Defendant replied “I am not surprised. They had no drink in here. They were not served. I tried twenty minutes to get them out of the house, but I could not do so. They asked me for a bottle of whisky, but I refused to serve”. Witness asked him if he sent for police assistance to get them removed, and he replied “No, I tried to persuade them myself”.

Mr. Mowll said the soldiers came into the house and were discovered by the barmaid to be under the influence of liquor. He thought there were five soldiers altogether, and two of them were very drunk. The men were refused drink by her, and she called the licensee`s attention to them. Mr. Fox tried to persuade them to go out, but he did not succeed in getting them out until ten minutes afterwards. It was upon the licensee to prove that he took all reasonable steps to prevent drunkenness. He suggested that the defendant had done that. The first step he took was to refuse to supply them, and the second step he took was to try to get them to leave.

Kate Thatcher said on Tuesday night, February 29th, she was in charge of the private bar. Between five and twenty minutes and twenty to eight five Canadian soldiers came into the bar. She noticed they had had quite enough and three of them had as much as they wanted. (Laughter) The two remained standing by the mantelpiece. One of the three men asked for two “double-headers” of whisky. She refused to serve any of them, and she advised them to go home. She told Mr. Fox, the licensee, who went to the men and told them that they would not be served, and they had better get away home. The men had no drink in the house.

Defendant said he had been the licensee of the Globe for ten years. On the evening in question he was serving in the public bar, and at about twenty minutes to eight he was called by Miss Thatcher to the private bar. On going there he saw the five soldiers. Two, who were drunk, were standing near the mantelpiece, and the other three were half drunk. He said “Come along, you boys, you have had enough. You had better get home”. One of them said “Give us a bottle of whisky, and we will beat it quick”. He told them he would not let them have anything. He tried to persuade them to go, and he expected they would leave every minute. The men had no drink in his house. He had no-one he could send for assistance.

The Chairman announced that the Magistrates were unanimous against a conviction, and the case would be dismissed.

Folkestone Herald 11-3-1916

Thursday, March 9th: Before Lieut. Col. R.J. Fynmore, Mr. J.J. Giles, and Mr. H. Kirke.

Alfred Peter Fox, of the Globe Hotel, The Bayle, was summoned for permitting drunkenness. Mr. Rutley Mowll, of Dover, appeared for the defendant and pleaded Not Guilty.

P.C. Harry Johnson said about 7.55 p.m. on the 29th February he was on duty near the Globe Hotel, when he saw defendant with two soldiers ejecting a drunken soldier from the private bar. Outside the soldier fell down in a helpless condition. He remained there a few minutes, and was then picked up by the other two soldiers. The door was again opened by the defendant, and two more soldiers put out another drunken soldier.

Cross-examined, witness said he did not go into the house at all.

Miss Kirby, of the Women Police, and Corpl. Bailey, of the M.P., also gave evidence.

Sergt. Sales said he went to the Globe Hotel on March 1st and told the landlord he would report him for permitting drunkenness. Defendant replied “I am not surprised. They had no drink in here. They were not served. I tried for twenty minutes to get them out of the house, but I could not do so. They asked me to supply them with a bottle of whisky, and I refused to serve them”. Witness asked him if he tried to get the police to remove them, and he said “No, I tried to persuade them myself”.

Mr. Mowll said the answer to the case was that the two soldiers came in and were discovered by the barmaid to be under the influence of liquor. They were not served. The barmaid called defendant`s attention, and they tried to get the men out, but they did not succeed till 7.55 p.m. It was true the police were not sent for. Defendant was in a very awkward situation, as the premises were full at the time.

Mrs. Kate Thatcher said she assisted Mr. Fox at the Globe. February 29th, when she was in charge of the bar, five Canadian soldiers came in about 7.35 p.m.. She noticed that two of the men had quite enough to drink, and the other three had as much as they wanted. (Laughter) One asked for two double headers, but she told them they had had enough, and she could not serve them. She advised them to go home.

Defendant said he had been the licensee of the Globe for ten years. He advised the soldiers to go home. One said “If you let`s have a bottle of whisky we will beat it quick”. He said “you cannot have any whisky or anything else”. He thought they were going to leave every minute. They had nothing to drink in his house.

The Chairman said the Bench were unanimous against a conviction, and the case would be dismissed.

Folkestone Express 6-12-1919

Local News

At the Folkestone Police Court yesterday (Thursday), Alfred Peter Fox, licensee of the Globe Hotel, Folkestone, was summoned for having sold in the public bar, for consumption on the premises, whisky at a price exceeding the maximum price, on the 11th November. There was a second summons for having sold on the same date to Mr. George Eyles (Food Control Inspector) whisky for consumption off the premises at a price exceeding the maximum prices. After hearing the evidence, the Magistrates inflicted a fine of £10 in each case.

Folkestone Herald 6-12-1919

Thursday, December 4th: Before Col. G.P. Owen and the Rev. H. Epworth Thompson.

Alfred Peter Fox, of the Globe Hotel, was summoned for selling whisky for consumption on the premises at a price exceeding the maximum price, and further for selling whisky for consumption off the premises exceeding the maximum price. The Town Clerk prosecuted and Mr. A.K. Mowll defended.

It was stated that for two double whiskies bought in the public bar 2s. was charged. According to the measure given this worked out at the rate of 3s. 4d. a gill, whereas the price should not exceed 2s. 6d. a gill for proprietary brands, or 2s. 1d. for non-proprietary whisky.

Mr. G. Eyles, Food Inspector, stated that he bought half a pint of whisky, which was sold as 35 degrees under proof. He paid 4s. 2d. for it. On analysis it was found to be 48 degrees under proof. The price for whisky 48 under proof should be 3s. 4d. a half pint.

Mr. Mowll stated that defendant had held a licence for 32 years without a conviction, and that his son-in-law had made these mistakes.

A fine of £10 in each case was inflicted, with £1 1s. costs.
 



 
 

 

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