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Saturday, 21 December 2013

Packet Boat (2) 1910 - 1914



Folkestone Express 8-10-1910

Wednesday, October 5th: Before W.G. Herbert, G.I. Swoffer, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton and G. Boyd Esqs., and Lieut. Col. Fynmore.

The licence of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, was transferred from Mr. Goldsmith to Mr. Deverson.

Folkestone Herald 8-10-1910

Wednesday, October 5th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Alderman T.J. Vaughan, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, and G. Boyd.

The licence of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, was temporarily transferred from Mr. Goldsmith to Mr. Deverson.

Folkestone Daily News 30-11-1910

Wednesday, November 30th: Before Messrs. Herbert, Stainer, Leggett, Fynmore, and Linton.

The licence of the Packet Boat was transferred from Mr. T. Goldsmith to Mr. Deneson (sic).
 
Folkestone Express 3-12-1910

Wednesday, November 30th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, Major Leggett, and J. Stainer and R.J. Linton Esqs.

The following licence was transferred: Packet Boat, Radnor Street, from Mr. T. Goldsmith to Mr. Deverson.

Folkestone Herald 3-12-1910

Wednesday, November 30th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Major Leggett, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and Messrs. R.J. Linton and J. Stainer.

The licence of the Packet Boat, Radnor Street, was transferred from Thomas Goldsmith to Mr. M. Deverson.

Folkestone Express 19-8-1911

Tuesday, August 15th: Before The Mayor, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, and W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, and G. Boyd Esqs.

Frederick Hawkins and Martha Pharaoh were charged with using obscene language the previous evening in Radnor Street. They pleaded Guilty.

P.C. Watson said at 9.45 p.m., in consequence of complaints he received, he went to Radnor Street. There he saw the prisoners outside the Packet Boat Inn in a fighting attitude. They were making use of disgusting language and caused a crowd to assemble. He then took them into custody, with the assistance of P.C. Fox.

Hawkins said they had had an extra drop of drink, and they commenced to argue over nothing. They were going to leave the town if the Magistrates gave them a chance. They promised it should not occur again. That was the first time they had been in trouble of that kind.

The Chief Constable said the prisoners were two “visitors” staying at the Radnor lodging house.

The Mayor said Hawkins would be fined 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days` in default. They understood that Pharaoh had a little girl aged three years, and on that account she would be discharged.

Folkestone Herald 19-8-1911

Tuesday, August 15th: Before The Mayor and Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer and G. Boyd.

Frederick Hawkins and Martha Pharoah were charged with using obscene language, and both pleaded Guilty.

P.C. Watson stated that at about 9.45 the previous evening, in Radnor Street, he saw the two prisoners outside the Packet Boat Inn in a fighting attitude. They were both using filthy language. A crowd had assembled, consisting chiefly of women and children. As neither would desist, witness, with the assistance of P.C. Fox, brought them to the police station.

Hawkins said he was sorry. He and the other prisoner had had a little too much to drink, and had started quarrelling.

The Chief Constable said nothing was know about prisoners. They were two visitors staying at the Radnor lodging house.

The Chairman said that Hawkins would be fined 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or 7 days`, but as he understood the prisoner Pharoah had a child three years old at home, the case against her would be dismissed this time.

Folkestone Daily News 10-10-1911

Tuesday, October 10th: Before Justices Herbert, Stainer, Linton and Boyd.

Maurice Francis Deverson was summoned for selling beer at the Packet Boat on the 4th Oct at 11.25, to wit, prohibited hours.

Inspector Lawrence deposed to seeing men enter the house at 11.23 on the night in question. The lights were full on and he saw defendant serve three fishermen with a pint of beer for which one paid 1s. and received the change. Witness saw through the window. He the tried the door, which was locked. He knocked and the landlord opened the door and he told him that what he was doing was wrong. Defendant replied that it was not so, and that he was allowed to serve fishermen who came in from the sea. The men gave their names and said they belonged to a Brighton boat that was lying in the harbour. Defendant told the men not to be frightened as the prosecution had not got a leg to stand on. The inspector knew all about it. The house had always been permitted to serve fishermen who came in from sea. The men said they had just returned from sea. The three men had not been summoned.

P.C. Kettle corroborated the evidence given by Inspector Lawrence.

Mr. Rutley Mowll defended, and argued that there was no offence as the men were fishermen and in law bona fide travellers.

Mr. Deverson, the landlord, deposed that many fishermen used the house, and the men were Brighton fishermen who have always used the house. He gave them the facilities of washing, shaving, and having letters addressed. The men came in from sea on the night in question. He knew they had been at sea since the previous morning.

William Taylor, of the “Bonnie Kate” of Brighton, deposed he lived at Brighton, and was on the mackerel season, coming into Folkestone to sell the fish. They left the Varne at 9.30 p.m. on Tuesday night and arrived at Folkestone on Wednesday morning at 1.30 a.m. He sent their fish on shore in a ferry boat to sell, and also to get some grub. They returned at 9 a.m. He went out again on Wednesday night, shot and hauled their nets. It was a fine wind and they got back to Folkestone at 11 p.m. They made fast to the jetty and went to the Packet Boat and had a drink. They had not been on shore since the Tuesday morning.

The case was dismissed.
 

Folkestone Express 14-10-1911

Local News

A case of interest to publicans came before the Magistrates at the Folkestone Police Court on Tuesday morning when Maurice Francis Deverson, landlord of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, was summoned for selling beer during prohibited hours. The Magistrates were W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, and G. Boyd Esqs.

Mr. Rutley Mowll, solicitor, appeared for defendant, and pleaded Not Guilty.

At the request of the Magistrates, the witnesses on both sides left the court.

Inspector Lawrence said at twenty three minutes past eleven on Wednesday night, the 4th October, he was in Radnor Street in company with P.C. Kettle, when he saw two men enter the front door of the Packet Boat Inn, which was kept by the defendant. Witness and Kettle at once went to the house, and they saw that the lights were full on in the front bar. On looking through the window, witness saw defendant behind the bar, while three fishermen were standing in the bar. Defendant served each of the men with a pint, evidently of beer. One of the men, who afterwards gave the name of William Taylor, laid a coin on the counter, and defendant took it and handed back Taylor some change. Witness then tried the front door, and found it was locked. Defendant opened it, and witness and Kettle walked in. Witness pointed to the three men and the three glasses on the counter, which he observed contained beer, and asked what was the meaning of it. Defendant said the men had just come in from sea. Witness replied “You know they have no right here”. Defendant said witness had made a mistake. They were allowed to come in after they had been to sea. Witness went to the men and asked them their names, which they gave as follows:- William Tayloy, 25, Claremont Road, Brighton; Charles Barnard, 26, George Street, Brighton; and John Taylor, 33, Grosvenor Street, Brighton. They said they were fishermen on the Bonny Kate, 60SM, a Brighton boat. While taking their names the defendant said “Don`t be afraid; they have not got a leg to stand on. The super knows all about it”. Witness told defendant that he should report him for keeping his house open for the sale of intoxicating liquors during prohibited hours. Defendant said he knew what witness was going to do directly he came into the bar. The fishermen had always been allowed to come in there when they had come back from sea. The sea was no-man`s land. Witness told the three men that they would be reported for being found on licensed premises during prohibited hours. William Taylor, in defendant`s presence, said they had been to sea since ten o`clock the previous morning and had always come there when they used the harbour. Witness said they had been trading in the harbour for some time now. Taylor replied “Yes, two or three weeks”. The men then drank up their beer and left. Kettle and witness followed them and they then went into the Fish Market.

Mr. Mowll: When you went into the house on Wednesday evening had you any reason to doubt that the three fishermen had then just returned from sea? – I believe they had.

By the Clerk: He saw two men enter by the front door of the house. When he got to the window he saw three men.

P.C. Kettle corroborated. He added that the boat had been at Folkestone a fortnight previous to the night of the 4th.

Mr. Mowll then addressed the Magistrates. He said the Magistrates had already got the evidence of the prosecution to show that those three men were Brighton fishermen, who had, in fact, as the Inspector himself believed, just returned from sea. And those three men said at the time, and there had been no evidence to contradict it, that they went to sea at ten o`clock on the Tuesday morning, and did not return until eleven o`clock on Wednesday evening. On returning from sea, they went straight to the Packet Boat, a public house which they always used when they were in Folkestone. On those facts there was quite sufficient evidence before them to justify them in dismissing the case, and they could pretty well see from the evidence of the prosecution what was the line of the defence. It was that those men were what the law called bona-fide travellers. The mere fact of their being at sea would not make them bona fide travellers, because they might have been at sea within three miles of the Packet Boat Inn. That they were travellers in fact, there could not be the slightest doubt. They went out on the Tuesday morning to the Varne, and they did not return until eleven o`clock on the Wednesday night. And if the facts were as he was going to submit them to the Magistrates, he thought they would have very little doubt in coming to the conclusion that those men were bona fide travellers.

Defendant then went into the witness box. He said he was the licensee of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street. A good many fishermen used the house. When he went into the house twelve months ago the two men, Taylor and Williams, were in there, and he knew them as Brighton fishermen. He had not seen anything of them since until the present mackerel season. About ten o`clock on the Tuesday morning he saw the Bonny Kate go out to sea, and he knew the crew were going out to the Varne. He did not see anything of the three men until Wednesday evening after eleven o`clock. He closed his house at eleven o`clock. When the men came to the door he asked them whether they had just come back from sea, and they said “Yes”. They wore their oilskins. He believed they had just returned from the Varne, and he served them with beer. He would not have done so if he had not believed they were bona fide travellers.

By the Chief Constable: The men had their meals on the boat. They said they had been to sea since ten o`clock the previous morning, and he believed it.

William Taylor, 25, Claremont Road, Brighton, said he was the skipper of the fishing lugger Bonny Kate. On Tuesday, 3rd October, he left Folkestone harbour at ten o`clock in the morning and went to the Varne lightship to catch mackerel. He and the crew left the Varne at 9.30 in the evening. The wind was W.N.W. – a contrary wind – and they got off Folkestone at 1.30 on Wednesday morning. They then anchored in the roads, about a mile or a mile and a half from shore. They put the fish into a ferry punt and sent them ashore. The men and two boys left at a quarter to seven and they brought back some food. They then went towards the Varne again, and left about a quarter to ten in the evening. The wind was more favourable and they got back to Folkestone at eleven o`clock. They came into the harbour, made fast to a jetty, and then went into the Packet Boat for a drink. From the time witness went out to sea on Tuesday morning until he went into the public house after eleven o`clock on Wednesday evening he had not been ashore.

The Chairman: I suppose the remaining witnesses will only prove exactly the same as this man.

Mr. Mowll: On the same lines.

No further evidence was given, and the Chairman said the Magistrates were unanimously of the opinion that those men were not in the strict sense of the term bona fide travellers. At the same time, they were satisfied that the defendant used his best endeavours to find out whether they were or not, and that he fully believed they were. The police were perfectly justified in bringing the case, which would be dismissed.

Folkestone Herald 14-10-1911

Tuesday, October 10th: Before Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, and G. Boyd.

Maurice Francis Deverson, the licensee of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, was summoned for selling intoxicating liquor during prohibited hours. Mr. Rutley Mowll appeared for the defendant.

Inspector Lawrence stated that at twenty three minutes past eleven the previous Wednesday night, the 14th instant, he was in Radnor Street in company with P.C. Kettle, when he saw two men enter the front door of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street. Witness at once went to the house, and saw that the lights were full on in the front bar. On looking through the window he saw the defendant behind the counter, and that three fishermen were standing in the bar. Defendant served each of the men with a pint of what apparently was beer, and one of the men, who afterwards gave the name of William Taylor, put a coind on the counter, which defendant took. Witness then tried the front door, and found that it was locked. Defendant opened the door, and witness walked into the bar with P.C. Kettle. He asked the defendant for an explanation, and he replied that the men had just come in from sea. Witness said that they had no right there, and defendant replied “You have made a mistake. They are allowed to come in after they have been to sea”. Witness asked the men their names, and they gave them as follows: William Taylor, 25, Claremont Road, Brighton; Charles Bernard, 26, George Street, Brighton; John Taylor, 33, Grosvenor Street, Brighton, fishermen on the Bonnie Kate, 60 S.M. S.M. meant that the boat was registered at Shoreham. Whilst witness was taking their names, defendant said to him “Do not be afraid; they have not got a leg to stand on. The Super knows all about it”. Witness then told the defendant that he would report him, and he replied “I knew what you were going to do directly you came in at the door. They had always been allowed to come here when they came back from sea. The sea is no-man`s-land”. Witness told the three men that they would be reported, and Wm. Taylor replied “We have been at sea since ten o`clock yesterday morning, and I have always come here when we use this harbour”. Witness said “You have been trading in this harbour for some time now”, and the defendant replied “Yes, for three weeks”. They then left.

Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll: The three fishermen had not been summoned. Witness believed that the men had just returned from sea when he saw them in the inn.

P.C. Kettle corroborated.

Addressing the Magistrates for the defence, Mr. Mowll said that they had already got evidence for the prosecution that these three men were fishermen, and the Inspector himself told them that he believed the men had just returned from sea, and there was no evidence to prove that they did not start out at ten o`clock on Tuesday morning, and did not return until eleven o`clock on Wednesday. On returning they went straight to the Packet Boat Inn. On those facts there was not sufficient evidence before them in dismissing the case, but they could pretty well see from the evidence of the prosecution what was going to be the line of the defence. It was this: that the men were what the law called bona fide travellers. The mere fact of their being at sea would not make them bona fide travellers, because they might have been at sea within three miles of the Packet Boat Inn, and if they had been lodging the previous night within three miles, that in itself would not justify them in holding that they were within the meaning of the law bona fide travellers. That they were travellers in fact there could not be the slightest doubt. On Tuesday morning they went to the Varne, and did not, in fact, come ashore until eleven o`clock on the Wednesday, and if the facts were as he was going to submit them to the Bench, he thought they would have very little doubt in coming to the conclusion that they were bona fide travellers. Of course, the important time was, not Wednesday, but Tuesday. The important point in the eye of the law was as to where the men were on Tuesday evening. On Tuesday morning they went to the Varne, and got back off Folkestone between one and two on Wednesday morning. Therefore on Tuesday evening those men were at the Varne, and if they were satisfied that that was so, the mere fact that they came off Folkestone some time after midnight would not affect the Magistrates` judgement that they were bona fide travellers. But he wanted also to put the case before them on a broad principle. These men were at sea for a matter of 36 hours, and if they were not to be considered bona fide travellers, who was? Broadly speaking, these men were travellers.

Maurice Deverson (the defendant) stated that he was the licensee of the Packet Boat Inn. He knew that the men were Brighton fishermen. They came about a fortnight ago, when the mackerel season commenced. When they were in Folkestone they always made a practice of using witness`s house. On Tuesday morning he saw the Bonnie Kate go out at about ten o`clock, and he knew that they were going to the Varne. He did not see anything of them from the Tuesday to the Wednesday, shortly after 11 p.m. He was going upstairs, when one of the men came and knocked at the door. Witness asked him whether he had just come back from sea, and he replied in the affirmative. They were all dressed in their oilskins and sou`westers. He believed that they had just returned from the Varne. He would not have served them had he not believed that they were bona fide travellers.

Questioned by the Chief Constable, witness said the men had their meals on board the vessel.

William Taylor said that he lived at 25, Claremont Road, Brighton, and was skipper of the Bonnie Kate. On Tuesday, the 3rd instant, he left Folkestone in the vessel at 10 a.m., and went to the Varne. They remained there till 9.30 p.m. The wind was contrary at N.N.W. They made for Folkestone, and anchored in the roads at about 1.30 on Wednesday morning. Later in the morning they put one of the crew in the ferry punt with their catch, and sent him ashore to get food. Later they again left for the Varne, and let in their nets there about four. About a quarter to ten on Wednesday night they again left the Varne for Folkestone harbour, and arrived in the harbour at about eleven. They made fast to the jetty, and went direct to the Packet Boat Inn. From the time they went out at ten o`clock on the Tuesday morning until they went into the public house after eleven on Wednesday evening witness and his mates had not been ashore once.

The Chairman asked whether the evidence of the rest of the witnesses for the defence would be the same.

Mr. Mowll: On the same lines.

The Chairman said that the Bench were unanimously of opinion that these men were not, in the strict term of the law, bona fide travellers, but they fully believed that the defendant used his best endeavours to find out whether they were or not, and also felt that the police were fully justified in bringing the case before them. The summons would be dismissed.

Folkestone Express 23-12-1911

Tuesday, December 19th: Before Alderman Vaughan and R.G. Wood Esq.

The licence of the Packet Boat Inn was temporarily transferred from Mr. Deverson to Mr. A. Goodall.

Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.

Folkestone Herald 23-12-1911

Tuesday, December 19th: Before Alderman Jenner and Councillor R.G. Wood.

A temporary transfer of the Packet Boat Inn, Radnor Street, from Mr. Deverson to Mr. Goodall was authorised.

Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.

Folkestone Express 20-1-1912

Local News

The Transfer Sessions were held at the Police Court on Wednesday morning, when the licence of the Rendezvous Hotel again came before the Bench. The Magistrates were E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Major Leggett, Alderman Jenner, and W.G. Herbert Esq.

The licence of the Packet Boat was transferred from Mr. Deverson to Mr. Goodall. Temporary authority was granted on December 19th.

Note: Date is at variance with More Bastions.

Folkestone Herald 20-1-1912

Wednesday, January 17th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. R.J. Fynmore, Major Leggett, Alderman C. Jenner, and Mr. W.G. Herbert.

The transfer of the Packet Boat Inn from Mr. Deverson to Mr. Goodall, for which temporary authority had been granted on December 19th, was granted.

The Chief Constable intimated that it was quite satisfactory. 

Folkestone Express 16-3-1912

Friday, March 8th: Before Alderman Vaughan and Lieut. Col. Fynmore.

Ellen Smart, a licensed pedlar, was charged with being drunk in Radnor Street the previous evening. She admitted the offence.

P.C. Waters said at 9.40 the previous evening he was in Radnor Street, where he saw the prisoner, who was drunk, ejected from the Packet Boat public house. She became very excited, and commenced shouting at the top of her voice. He advised her to go away, but she refused to do so. As she did not do as requested, and continued to make herself a nuisance, he took her into custody.

Prisoner said she was very sorry, but she had not been used to take strong drink.

The Chief Constable (Mr. Reeve) said the prisoner was a stranger to them.

Prisoner`s husband said they had only been in the town two days.

The Magistrates discharged the woman on promising to leave the town.

Folkestone Daily News 13-6-1912

Monday, June 10th: Before Messrs. Herbert, Stainer, Boyd, Swoffer, Harrison, Young and Stace.

Francis John Maidment was charged with stealing a new sunblind, the property of someone unknown. He was first charged with being drunk and disorderly, but this charge was afterwards dismissed.

Charles Petley deposed to being in the Packet Boat on Saturday evening last, and saw prisoner there. The sunblind produced was close to his feet. Defendant said he wanted 2/6 for it. Witness asked him if he had stolen it, and defendant replied “No”. Witness then bought it for 2/6 and took it down to the boat. He threw it open and saw that it was new cloth, which at once aroused his suspicions.

Inspector Lawrence said that at 10 p.m. on Saturday he was in Harbour Street, when the last witness came to him, and accompanied by P.C. Butcher they went to a boat (DR No. 8) in the harbour, where he was shown the sunblind produced. They then went to Radnor Street, where they saw the defendant, who was helplessly drunk. Witness brought him to the police station and charged him with being drunk and incapable, and also charged him with stealing the sunblind from some person at present unknown. Defendant replied that he had no recollection about it at all.

A sailmaker valued the blind at from 44s. to 50s.

Prisoner was remanded until Tuesday week.

Folkestone Express 15-6-1912

Monday, June 10th: Before W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, G. Boyd, W. Harrison, W.C. Young, and A. Stace Esqs.

Francis John Maidment was charged with being drunk and incapable on Saturday night.

The Chief Constable (Mr. Reeve) said the prisoner was arrested on Saturday night on a charge of being drunk and incapable, but as a result of enquiries subsequently made he was charged with stealing a new canvas sunblind, the property of some person unknown. He, therefore, should like to withdraw the charge of drunkenness and proceed with the charge against the prisoner of stealing the sunblind.

The Magistrates gave permission for the charge of drunkenness to be withdrawn, and the charge of stealing to be preferred against Maidment.

Charles Petley, a labourer, living on board a boat in the harbour, said on Saturday night, about nine o`clock, he was in the Packet Boat public house, when he saw the prisoner. The sunblind (produced) was close to his feet, and he asked witness if he would give him half a crown for it. He said to prisoner “Have you stole it?”, and prisoner replied “No”. He asked him if he was sure about it, and he said “Yes”. He eventually gave him 2s. 6d. for it, and he took the bundle down on board the boat to see what it was. He found it was a new cloth. That made him suspicious, and he came on shore again and saw Inspector Lawrence, who came and looked at the canvas. He later accompanied the Inspector to Radnor Street, where they saw the prisoner sitting on the pavement. The police eventually took possession of the canvas.

Inspector Lawrence said at ten o`clock on Saturday night he was in Harbour Street, when the last witness went to him, and from what he said P.C. Butcher and he  accompanied Petley to the boat where he lived. Petley showed him the canvas produced, and he found it was a sunblind. He accompanied him (witness) into Radnor Street, where he pointed out the prisoner sitting on the pavement. He found Maidment was helplessly drunk, so he brought him to the police station. P.C. Butcher took possession of the blind and brought it to the police station. After making enquiries on Sunday morning he showed prisoner the sunblind, and said to him “This blind was sold by you to a man named Petley for 2s. 6d. in the Packet Boat yesterday, and I shall now charge you with stealing it from some person or persons unknown”. He then cautioned him, and he replied “I have no recollection about it at all”. The sunblind was valued at from 45s. to 50s.

The Chief Constable said that was as far as he could take the case that day, and he asked for a remand so that further enquiries could be made.

The prisoner was remanded until next Tuesday.

Folkestone Herald 15-6-1912

Monday, June 10th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Councillor A. Stace, and Councillor W.C. Young.

Francis John Maidment was charged with being drunk and incapable.

The Chief Constable said the prisoner was arrested on Saturday night on a charge of being drunk and incapable in Radnor Street, but as a result of various inquiries which had been made, accused was now charged with stealing a new canvas sunblind, the property of some person or persons unknown, and with the permission of the Bench he would like to withdraw the charge of drunkenness.

Charles George Petling, a labourer in the employ of the Corporation, said that he was in the Packet Boat Inn on Saturday night at about 9. Prisoner was also there, and the cloth produced was lying near his feet. He offered it to witness for sale, saying that he wanted 2s. 6d. for it. Witness said “Have you stolen it?” Prisoner replied “No”, and witness eventually gave him 2s. 6d. for it. He took it out and down the street, and opened it to see what it was. When he found out that it was a new cloth his suspicions were aroused, and he went and told Inspector Lawrence, who came and looked at the canvas.

Insp. Lawrence said when the accused was charged he replied that he had no recollection about it at all. The blind had been valued at between 45s. and 50s.

The Chief Constable asked for a remand, and prisoner was thereupon remanded until next Tuesday.

Folkestone Express 22-6-1912

Tuesday, June 18th: Before W.G. Herbert Esq., Lieut. Col. Hamilton, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, A. Stace and W.C. Young Esqs.

Francis John Maidment was brought up on remand charged with stealing a sunblind.

The Chief Constable said a week ago the prisoner was before the Magistrates charged with stealing a sunblind, the property of some person unknown. They had since ascertained that it belonged to Messrs. Upton. There was one additional witness to be called, and after his evidence he should ask them, if they were satisfied that a prima facie case was made out, to commit him for trial at the next Quarter Sessions.

Charles Rowe, of 37, Warwick Road, said he was in the employ of Messrs. Upton Bros., in Sandgate Road. The sunblind produced was the property of his employers, it having been specially made. On Friday, June 7th, he removed the blind, together with another one, at about 11 a.m. from off a case in a lodge in the backyard, and placed them on a dinner wagon. Both blinds were new, only having been used six times. The value of the blind was 45s. He missed the blind on Monday, the 10th, at nine o`clock. He made enquiries and reported the loss to the manager. Afterwards a constable came to the shop, and he (witness) later went to the police station and identified it. The yard opened into Alexandra Gardens, and the doors were opened at half past eight in the morning and remained so until eight o`clock in the evening.

Prisoner said he knew nothing about it.

The Magistrates thereupon committed him for trial at the Quarter Sessions, bail being offered him in £10 and one surety of £10.

Folkestone Herald 22-6-1912

Local News

At the Borough Police Court on Tuesday, Francis John Maidment was committed for trial on a charge of stealing a sunblind, the property of Mr. Upton, of Sandgate Road.

Folkestone Daily News 13-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Francis John Maidment, 69, labourer, who was committed for trial on the 8th of June for feloniously stealing one canvas sunblind, value £2 5s. 0d., the property of Phillip Charles Upton, Frederick Sidney Upton, and Rowland Clark Upton, pleaded Not Guilty.

Mr. Weigall prosecuted for the Crown, and briefly addressed the jury upon the two charges against the prisoner – that of stealing the sunblind, and secondly of its being in his possession and well-knowing it to have been stolen.

Charles Rowe identified the blind as the property of Messrs. Upton Bros.

A man named Petley proved purchasing the blind from prisoner for 2s. 6d. He (Petley) understood it was a roll of old canvas, but on discovering it to be a new and valuable blind at once gave information to the police.

Inspector Lawrence corroborated, and proved the arrest of the prisoner. Prisoner when charged said he had no recollections about it at all. He was drunk when arrested.

Prisoner did not ask the witness any questions, and said he did not steal the canvas. He knew nothing about it.

The jury returned a verdict of Guilty of stealing the blind.

A previous conviction was proved by P.C. Clay, of the Metropolitan Police, who said he was present at the West Kent Sessions on April 8th, 1904, when prisoner was sentenced in the name of John Davis. There were seven previous convictions for stealing, dating back to 1888. He had served 3 years penal servitude at Maidstone.

Chief Constable Reeve proved an additional conviction – 3 months hard labour at Aldershot for failing to report himself while a convict on licence.

Prisoner said for six years he had been trying to get an honest living, and when he got the three months he had lost his papers and went to the police station himself.

The Recorder sentenced the prisoner to hard labour for twelve calendar months.

Folkestone Express 20-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Francis John Maidment, 69, a labourer, was charged with stealing a canvas sunblind, of the value of £2 5s., the property of Messrs. Upton Bros., Sandgate Road, on June 8th. He was also charged with receiving it, well-knowing it to have been stolen. Prisoner pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. Weigall prosecuted on behalf of the Crown.

Charles Rowe, 31, Foord Road, said he was employed by the prosecutors as porter. On the 7th June he moved the sunblind produced from one side of the shed at the rear of the premises to the other, putting it on a dinner wagon. On the 10th he missed it, and he was later shown it at the police station. It had been used six times.

Charles Tyrell Petley, a labourer, said he lived on a boat in the harbour. On June 8th he was in the Packet Boat public house, when the prisoner came in with what he thought was a piece of canvas. He bought it from him for 2s. 6d., but when he got on board he found it was a sunblind. He therefore brought it ashore, handed it over to the police, and gave information to them. Later he pointed out the prisoner to Inspector Lawrence.

Inspector Lawrence said Petley pointed out the prisoner to him in Radnor Street. He helped the prisoner to his feet, as he was sitting on the pavement, and he found he was helplessly drunk. He took him to the police station, where he charged him with being drunk and incapable. On the following morning he charged prisoner with stealing the sunblind, and he replied “I have no recollection about it at all”.

The jury returned a verdict of Guilty.

P.C. Clay, of the Metropolitan Police, stated that he was present at the West Kent Sessions at Maidstone, on April 8th, 1904, when the prisoner was sentenced to three years` penal servitude for stealing a garden hose and other articles, in the name of John Davis. There were seven other previous convictions against him at that time, including 18 monts` hard labour at Surrey Sessions for housebreaking. All the convictions were for theft.

The Chief Constable said on November 29th, 1906, the prisoner was sentenced to three months` at Aldershot for failing to report himself as a convict on licence.

Prisoner said he had been trying to get an honest living during the last six years, selling matches, laces, oranges, or anything. When he got the sentence for failing to report himself he told the police he had lost his papers and he gave himself up.

The Recorder said he had been considering whether he should send him to penal servitude. His first inclination was to do so. It seemed to him it was no use them allowing such a wastrel to wander about seeking what he could get hold of. His fellow justices seemed to have a more lenient view of the matter. Having regard to the fact that he had not been in trouble for six years, and that he was 69 years of age, he did not propose to send him to penal servitude. The sentence he passed upon him was that he be imprisoned for twelve calendar months with hard labour.

Folkestone Herald 20-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Francis John Maidment, 69, labourer, was indicted for stealing one canvas sunblind, value £2 5s., the goods and chattels of Philip Charles Upton, Fredk. Sidney Upton, and Rowland Clark Upton, on June 8th. Mr. Weigall prosecuted, and briefly explained the case.

Charles Rowe stated that he lived at 37, Foord Road, and was employed by Messrs. Upton Bros., Sandgate Road, as a porter. He identified the canvas sunblind produced as belonging to his employers. On the 6th June he removed it at 11 a.m. to the dinner wagon in the lodge in Alexandra Road, at the rear of their premises. On Monday, 10th June, he missed the blind at 9 a.m., and communicated with the police. It was valued at 45s. There were two big gates opening into the yard, which were open all day till 8 o`clock at night.

Chas. Petley, labourer, stated that he lived on a boat in the Folkestone Harbour. On Sunday, 8th June, he saw prisoner in the Packet Boat Inn, in Radnor Street. He had a piece of canvas (produced), and asked if witness would buy it. He asked him where he got it from, and accused replied that it was made a present to him. Witness bought it for 2s. 6d. and took it down to his boat. On stretching it out he saw what it was, and went back to the Packet Boat, and then to the police station. Inspector Lawrence went with him to the bottom of High Street, and they proceeded to the boat. Prisoner had just gone out from the Packet Boat. He was found lying across the footpath, and witness pointed him out to the police. Witness had suspicions of him.

Inspector Lawrence deposed that on Saturday, 8th June, he was in Harbour Street, when Petley came to him. From what he said, witness accompanied him to his boat, and saw the sunblind produced. Next he accompanied Petley to Radnor Street, and, after giving the blind into the possession of P.C. Butcher to bring to the police station, he saw the prisoner lying on the pavement drunk. He helped accused to his feet and brought him to the police station, charging him with being drunk and incapable. Enquiries were afterwards made, and prisoner was later charged with stealing the sunblind. Accused said “I have no recollection about it at all”.

Prisoner said he had nothing to say. He knew nothing at all about it. He left it to the Recorder to decide. He worked hard selling matches. He sold laces. He did whatever he could to get an honest living. He did not steal the blind at all.

The jury found the prisoner Guilty, and he admitted a previous conviction for felony on the 7th April, 1904, in the name of John Davis.

P.C. Thos. Clay, of the Marylebone Police, stated that the accused was sentenced at the West Kent Quarter Sessions on 8th April, 1904, to three years` penal servitude. There were several other convictions, dating back to 1888, for stealing clothing, stealing from the person, housebreaking, stealing a bag, etc., stealing a skirt, etc.

In answer to the Recorder, witness stated that he did not know anything good of the accused. He went about the country selling rags and bones, and getting hold of whatever he could.

The Chief Constable said there was another conviction recorded against the accused. In 1906 he was sentenced to three months` at Aldershot for failing to report himself as a convict on licence. Since then nothing had been recorded against him.

The Recorder: Why was he not proceeded against as an habitual criminal?

Mr. Wardley said they could not prove a life of dishonesty for the last two years.

Prisoner stated that he had been trying to get an honest living selling matches and other things for the last six years.

The Recorder said the only thing he had been considering was whether he should send prisoner to penal servitude. His first inclination was to do so. It seemed to him to be no good letting a wastrel go about seeking to get hold of what he could. However, his brother Justices seemed to think that a little more lenient view might be taken. He did not know that it would be the better thing, but, having regard to the fact that he had not been in trouble for four years, and to the fact that he was 69 years of age, he did not propose to send him to penal servitude, although if accused came there again he would go to it. The sentence would be twelve months` imprisonment with hard labour.

An order was made for the 2s. 6d. to be refunded to the witness Petley.
 
 


 


 
 

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