Castle Inn 1910 - 1919

Folkestone Daily News 8-7-1910

 

Friday, July 8^th: Before Messrs. Vaughan, Jenner, and Fynmore.

Albert Carter was charged with being drunk and incapable yesterday.

Sergt. Sales deposed that he saw defendant at 2.30 in the afternoon in Foord Road near the Public Baths. He was very drunk, and went into the Imperial Hotel, but the landlord refused to serve him. Defendant then went into the Red Cow public house and was again refused, and went in the direction of the Viaduct and up Derby Steps, where he had to hold on to the railings to keep himself from falling. Witness, with the assistance of P.C. Allen, took him into custody.

P.C. Allen and Sergt. Simpson corroborated.

Defendant said he was not drunk. He had been ill for five years, and a very little drink overcame him.

A fine of 2s. 6d. and 6s. 6d. costs, or 7 days` was imposed.

 

Folkestone Herald 9-7-1910

Friday, July 8^th: Before Alderman T.J. Vaughan, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and Alderman C. Jenner.

Albert Carter, on bail, was charged with being drunk and incapable. Prisoner pleaded Not Guilty.

P.S. Sales deposed that at about 2.30 the previous afternoon he was in Foord Road, near the Public Baths, when he saw the defendant very drunk. Defendant went away in the direction of Black Bull Road. Witness followed him, in company with P.C. Allen, and saw him go into the Imperial public house, where he was turned out by the landlord without being served. About a quarter of an hour later he went into the Red Cow, and was turned out of there also. He then went away in the direction of the Viaduct, and went up the steps leading into Derby Place, and had the greatest difficulty in getting up. Seeing that he was incapable of taking care of himself, witness took him into custody, with the assistance of P.C. Allen.

P.C. Allen and Sergt. Simpson corroborated as to the defendant`s drunken condition.

Defendant said he had been laid up with consumption for five years. He had a glass or two to drink, and it overcame him. He had not worked for nine months. He had a job to walk about. He had been a ratepayer for 34 years, and that was the first offence he had had brought against him.

The Chairman stated that the Bench felt very sorry that prisoner was in that position. They had a duty to perform to the public, however, and he thought that the police were to be commended on their conduct, and the publicans, for not serving him in the condition he was in. A fine of 2s. 6d. and 6s. 6d. costs, or 7 days` imprisonment, was imposed, seven days being allowed in which to pay.

Folkestone Express 16-7-1910

Friday, July 8^th: Before Aldermen Vaughan and Jenner, and Lieut. Col. Fynmore.

Albert Carter was charged with being drunk and incapable the previous afternoon. He pleaded Not Guilty.

P.S. Sales said at about 2.30 the previous afternoon he was in Foord Road, near the public baths, when he saw the defendant, who was very drunk. He went away in the direction of Black Bull Road, and he (witness), in company with P.C. Allen, followed him. He saw him go into the Imperial public house, so they followed him in, and the defendant was turned out by the landlord without being served. About a quarter of an hour later he saw the defendant in the Red Cow, from which he was ejected. Carter then went away in the direction of the Viaduct, and he went up Derby Place steps. He had the greatest difficulty in mounting the steps, and when about halfway up he stopped and held on the fence for support. Seeing that he was incapable of taking care of himself, witness, with the assistance of P.C. Allen, brought him to the police station.

P.C. Allen said at about 2.15 p.m. he saw the prisoner being ejected from the Castle public house. He advised him to go home. P.S. Sales then came up. Witness then corroborated the sergeant`s statement.

P.S. Simpson said at three o`clock, when the prisoner was brought in, he was drunk.

Carter said he had been laid up with consumption for five years. He had a glass or two of liquor the previous day, and no doubt that overcame him. He had not worked for about nine months. His illness, however, made him stagger, and he had a job to walk about at times. Therefore the officer might have thought he was drunk.

Alderman Vaughan said the Magistrates thought the officers and the publicans were to be commended for the action they took. The Bench had a duty to perform, and they had decided to fine the defendant 2s. 6d. and 6s. 6d. costs.

 

Folkestone Daily News 20-7-1910

Wednesday, July 20^th: Before Messrs. Herbert and Stainer.

Herbert Edward Savage (sic), landlord of the Red Cow inn, was summoned for selling intoxicating liquor to a drunken person on the 7^th July. Mr. Haines appeared for defendant and pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. Mowll, of Dover, represented Leney and Co.

Sergt. Sales deposed: About 2.30 on the 7^th inst. I was in Foord Road, near the Public Baths, when I saw a man named Carter, who was drunk. Shortly afterwards I saw Carter go into the Imperial public house. I went into the Imperial, and the landlord turned Carter out. About 15 minutes later, from something I was told, in company with P.C. Allen, I visited the Red Cow inn. In a bar I saw Carter seated near the counter. He had a glass containing rum on the counter. The barman was behind the bar, and I asked him to call the landlord, Mr. Savage, who came in. I said to him “You see this man`s condition, landlord. He is drunk. He has been served with liquor”. Mr. Savage replied “I am very sorry. I did not know he was in the house”. The barman said “I served him”. The landlord then took the rum away, and advised Carter to leave the house. After Carter got up, I said to the landlord “You see he is drunk”, and he replied “I am very sorry, Sergeant”. Carter left, and shortly afterwards was locked up for being drunk and incapable.

Cross-examined by Mr. Haines: Was Carter discharged when summoned?

Witness: No. He was fined.

What made you think Carter was drunk? – By his manner and walk.

Could the landlord see he was drunk? – Not unless he saw him come in, as Carter went in and sat down.

Did you ask him to stand up? – Both the landlord and I did.

And Carter walked from the Red Cow to the Derby Steps without assistance? – Yes.

And went up the steps without assistance? – Yes, about half way up, and then held on to the rails.

Had the glass of rum been touched? – Well, it wasn`t full.

P.C. Allen said he was in company with Sergt. Sales on the 7^th July, and corroborated all the previous witness had said.

Sergt. Simpson said Carter was drunk when brought to the police station.

Percy William Attwood, landlord of the Castle Inn, said he ejected Carter because he was inclined to be troublesome when he had had a glass or two. Witness did not think Carter was drunk, although he had been drinking.

Defendant went into the witness box and said he had been manager of the Red Cow 11 years, and landlord five years. He did not see Carter come into the bar on the 7^th July, and did not know he was there until Sergt. Sales spoke to him about it. He admitted that he did not contradict the Sergeant when told about Carter`s condition.

George Barringer, barman at the Red Cow, said he served Carter with twopennyworth of rum, and he seemed alright. After being served, Carter sat down.

The Chief Constable: You were there when Sales came in? – Yes.

And you heard him call attention to Carter`s condition? – Yes.

And you didn`t say Carter was not drunk? – No.

Did he stagger when he stood up? - No, he stood up alright.

Alfred William Chambers, harness maker, Foord Road, said he saw Carter after he left the Red Cow, and he seemed to witness to be more ill than drunk.

The Chief Constable: Do you know Carter?

Witness: No.

Ever seen him before? – No.

Then the man you saw might not have been Carter at all? – Certainly.

Then what induced you to come here and give evidence? – Well, I was asked to come here and say what I saw.

Mr. Haines briefly addressed the Bench, pointing out that there was nothing to indicate that Carter was drunk when he was served by the barman. Every precaution was taken to guard against serving persons who were intoxicated, and this fact was borne out when he stated that no charge had been brought against this house during the last 16 years. He pointed out that it would be a serious matter for his client if he was convicted, and asked the Bench to take into consideration the good conduct of the house and dismiss the case.

The Bench retired for a few minutes, and on returning the Chairman said they had taken into consideration what Mr. Haines had said, and the case would be dismissed, but warned defendant to be careful in future.

Folkestone Express 23-7-1910

Wednesday, July 20^th: Before Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, and R.J. Linton.

Herbert Edward Savage, the licensee of the Red Cow Inn, was summoned for selling intoxicating liquors to a drunken person, on July 7^th. Mr. G.W. Haines appeared for the defendant, who pleaded Not Guilty, and Mr. R. Mowll, of Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, of Dover, watched the case on behalf of Messrs. Leney and Co., the owners of the house.

P.S. Sales said at about 2.30 the afternoon of July 7th he was in Foord Road, near the public baths, when he saw a man named Albert Carter, who was drunk. Shortly afterwards he saw Carter go into the Imperial public house, Black Bull Road. In company with P.C. Allen, he went into the Imperial and called the landlord`s attention to Carter`s condition. Carter was turned out without being served. A quarter of an hour later, from something he was told, in company with P.C. Allen, he visited the Red Cow. In a bar, known as the bottle and jug department, he saw Carter sitting near the counter. A glass containing liquor was standing on the counter in front of him. He afterwards found the liquor was rum. The barman was behind the bar, and he asked him to call the landlord. Mr. Savage then came into the bar, and he said to him “You see this man`s condition, landlord? He is drunk. He has been served with liquor”. Mr. Savage replied “I am very sorry. I did not know he was in the house”. The barman said “I served him”. The landlord then took away the glass containing the liquor, and advised Carter to leave the house. Shortly afterwards Carter was locked up for drunkenness on the Derby Place steps by P.C. Allen and himself. There was no-one else in the bar at the time. He told the landlord after Carter left that he should report him for a summons for supplying drink to a drunken person. Defendant replied that he was sorry. He did not say that Carter was not drunk.

Cross-examined, witness said Carter was not discharged by the Magistrates, but was fined. He was charged with being drunk and incapable, but was not charged with being drunk on licensed premises. In the first instance he was informed that Carter was drunk, and he also saw for himself when he came out of the public lavatory opposite the baths that he was drunk. He was led to think that the man was drunk by his general appearance and that he could not walk straight. He believed Carter was consumptive. Carter was able to walk to the Imperial without any assistance. He warned the landlord of that house because Carter was drunk. He was afraid the landlord would not have seen that Carter was drunk because he went in and sat down. It was their instructions to warn a publican when a drunken man went in the house. When carter got out of the house he advised him to go away, and Allen and himself (witness) went up the Black Bull Road. When he pointed it out to the landlord that Carter was drunk, they both of them asked him to stand up. Carter did stand up and did not fall over, although he had the usual difficulty of a drunken man in getting up. He got up from his seat without assistance. When they arrested Carter he was hanging on with one hand to the fence by the side of the Derby Place steps. He had no doubt about the man being drunk, while at the same time he might have been ill. He should think about a third of the contents of the glass in front of Carter had been drank. The man`s symptoms were such that it must have been palpable to anyone that he was drunk. It could be easily detected that he was drunk by his gait.

Re-examined by the Chief Constable, Sales said if he had seen Carter enter the Red Cow he would have warned the landlord.

P.C. Allen said at a quarter past two on July 7^th he was in Foord Road, near the Public Baths, when he saw Carter leave the Red Cow public bar, drunk. He saw him go across the road and enter the Castle Inn public house. He went to that house, and on pushing the door open he saw Carter go away, and he went down into the public convenience. P.S. Sales came up at about half past two, and Carter once again appeared and went into the Imperial. Witness then corroborated the previous witness`s story of what afterwards occurred. He had no doubt that the man was drunk.

In reply to the Clerk, P.C. Allen said when Carter got up from his seat in the Red Cow he reeled a little.

Cross-examined, witness said that from 2.15 to a quarter to three Carter got gradually worse. The reason they left the man after he came out of the Imperial was because he had to work his beat, but before doing so they advised him to go away. They hoped that he would go home.

Percy Attwood, the landlord of the Castle Inn, Foord, said that he had known Carter for some time. On July 7^th, at 2.15 in the afternoon, he was on the flat top of the front portion of his premises when his attention was called by a plumber to Carter coming from the direction of the Red Cow. The man went up to some dustmen and began kicking about a heap of dirt which they had just swept up. Noting his actions, he (witness) went down into the bar, thinking that he might come into the house. Carter came in immediately after. He ordered him to leave before he asked for any drink, and ultimately he had to eject him. He looked out of the window afterwards and saw Carter go towards Black Bull Road. He man walked all right. The man`s actions in the road, and as his previous experience of the man led him to think that he would become a nuisance, were the reasons why he ejected him.

The Chief Constable: You say that and no other reason caused you to refuse to serve him?

Witness: He was a trifle thick in his speech.

Cross-examined, Mr. Attwood said when he was on the top of the front portion of his house he saw Carter was in some way under the observation of the police. He refused to serve him in order to avoid any trouble in his house. His wife, who was serving in the bar, would not have served Carter, who had not been served by her for two years. Witness, however, had served him once or twice during the last month or so.

The Clerk: The Bench would like to know if you would have served Carter yourself if you had not seen what you had outside? – No, sir.

Why not? – Because he was a man, when he had had a drink or two, would behave in a hostile manner and challenge anyone. I thought he was likely to get up to his horse-play.

Answering further questions, witness said he was of opinion that Carter had had a glass or two of beer, and was in a condition likely to cause trouble. In his opinion the man was not drunk. When P.S. Sales came to see him about four or five days after, he told him what he told the Magistrates about the man`s condition.

P.S. Simpson gave evidence that when Carter was brought in at 3 p.m. on the 7^th he was drunk.

Defendant went into the witness box and gave evidence on his own behalf. He said he had been the tenant of the Red Cow for five years, and for the previous eleven years he had acted as manager for his sister. During that time there had been nothing against the house. He had always given his barmen instructions not to serve anyone in any way intoxicated. Until he was called into the bar, when P.S. Sales and P.C. Allen were present, he had not seen Carter before that day. He asked Carter to stand up and he did so. He also saw him walk from his premises to the Viaduct. There was nothing about his appearance or gait to lead him to think he was drunk.

The Chairman: When the police called your attention to the man`s condition, did you deny that he was drunk? – No.

The hief Constable: The sergeant told you when you got out of the bar that he should report you. Did you deny that Carter was drunk? – No.

Did you say “I am sorry”? – I did.

George Barringer, a barman in the defendant`s employ, said he was in the bar when Carter came in and called for two pennyworth of rum. Carter stood when asking for the liquor, but sat down when he was served. He had no conversation with the man, whom he thought was quite sober. He certainly did not appear to be drunk.

Cross-examined by the Chief Constable, witness said that neither the landlord nor himself denied that the man was drunk. Carter had previously been in the house, and he was served on that occasion with two pennyworth of rum. When the man was told to stand up, he stood up, although he was not erect.

Alfred William Chambers, harness maker, of 122, Foord Road, said about 2.30 on the afternoon of the 7^th his attention was attracted to a man outside the Red Cow. He saw him walk in the direction of the Viaduct, followed by the police officers. He certainly did not think the man was drunk; he looked more ill than drunk.

Cross-examined, witness said he did not know the man Carter, and he could not say that the man referred to was Carter.

Mr. Haines then briefly addressed the Bench.

The Magistrates retired, and on their return into court, the Chairman said the Bench had very carefully considered all the evidence, and taking into consideration the character Savage had borne, the character the house had always borne, and all the circumstances, they were inclined to deal very mercifully with him. Technically, they could have brought him in Guilty, but taking everything into consideration, they would dismiss the charge. He hoped it would be a warning to him, and to all publicans and barmen, to look very carefully before serving anyone.

Folkestone Herald 23-7-1910

Wednesday, July 19^th: Before Messrs. W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, and R.J. Linton.

Herbert Edward Savage was summoned for selling intoxicating liquor to a drunken person. Defendant pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. G.W. Haines appeared for the defendant, and Mr. Mowll, of Dover, represented Messrs. Leney and Co.

P.C. Sales said that about 2.30 p.m. on the 7^th inst. he saw a man named Carter, who was drunk, in Foord Road, near the Public Baths. Shortly afterwards this man went into the Imperial public house. In company with P.C. Allen, witness then went into the Imperial, and called the landlord`s attention to Carter`s condition. The landlord sent Carter out without serving him. About half an hour later, from something he was told, witness, still in the company of P.C. Allen, went to the Red Cow Inn (kept by the defendant). There, in the bar known as the bottle and jug department, they saw Carter, who was sitting near the counter. Near him was a glass containing a quantity of drink. Witness did not know at the time what it was, but afterwards found out that it was rum. The barman was behind the counter, and witness asked him to fetch the landlord. The barman did so. Witness called the landlord`s attention to Carter`s condition, saying that he was drunk, and that he had been served. Defendant replied that he was very sorry, and that he did not know that Carter was in the house. The barman stated that he had served Carter. The landlord took the glass away. Carter was advised to leave the house, which he did. When he went out witness said to defendant “You see the man is drunk, don`t you?” He replied “I am very sorry, sergeant”. Shortly afterwards Carter was locked up for drunkenness. He was near the Derby Place steps when witness and P.C. Allen arrested him.

Cross-examined by Mr. Haines, witness said that when he was in the Red Cow he did ask Carter to stand up. He got up without falling over, and without assistance. He walked down the road without assistance. Carter got part of the way up Derby Place steps, and then stopped. It was witness`s opinion that he could not go any further. Carter might have been ill, but in witness`s opinion he was undoubtedly drunk. There was a handrail part of the way up the steps.

P.C. Allen corroborated.

Cross-examined, witness stated that Carter was drunk when he first saw him, but got worse. There was no doubt he was drunk, as he reeled when he walked. When he stood up in the Red Cow he reeled, although he stood up without assistance. He walked down the road after he had left the Red Cow without assistance.

Percy William Attwood, the landlord of the Castle, said that he was on the flat roof of his premises at about 2.15 p.m. on the day in question, talking to a plumber who was doing some repairs. From what the plumber said he looked over into the road, and there saw Carter. Two policemen were watching him. Witness could not form any idea as to how he was walking as he came from the direction of the Red Cow, and witness could only see him side face. Carter came across the road, and started to kick up some dust that the roadmen had swept up. Witness then went downstairs into the bar, as he thought perhaps Carter might come into his house. Carter did come into the house, but witness told him that he would not be served.

P.S. Simpson said that he was on duty at the police office when Carter was brought in. There was no doubt that he was drunk.

Defendant, in the witness box, stated that he had been the landlord of the Red Cow for 5 years, and had been manager there for his sister for 11 years. During that time there had been nothing against the house. There were four bars in the house. He kept a barman, and always gave him instructions never to serve an intoxicated person. He knew Carter, but until he had been called into the bar by the policemen he had not seen him that day. Defendant told Carter to stand up, and also saw him walk out of the house. He stood up without assistance, and walked away all right. He had said he was sorry because he was sorry to see the man in that state.

George Barringer, the barman at the Red Cow, said that he had been in the house over four years. He was in the bar when Carter came in. He walked in all right, and asked for twopennyworth of rum. He sat down in the bar when he had been served. There was nothing in his appearance to suggest that he was drunk. Witness would not have served him had he been drunk.

Questioned by the Chief Constable, witness said Carter was only in the bar about four or five minutes on the outside on this occasion. He had been in the bar before that morning, and had had a similar drink.

William Chambers, a harness maker, residing at 123, Foord Road, stated that he was going out for a drive at about 2.30 p.m. on the day in question. His attention was drawn to Carter by the fact that the two policemen were following him. He did not know Carter at all, and was therefore not sure that he was the man that the police were following. The man that they had under observation was certainly not drunk. Witness added that he was not absolutely positive that the man he saw was the man in question.

The Bench, after a short deliberation in private, returned, and the Chairman said the case should be a warning to publicans and barmen in the future to look very carefully at their customers. It was all very well for them to say that they did not know that the man was drunk, but unfortunately the Act did not allow this as any defence. However, in view of the previous good character of the house, the Bench thought they might dismiss the case against Mr. Savage.

Folkestone Herald 27-5-1916

Local News

At the Folkestone Police Court yesterday, the licence of the Castle Inn, Foord Road, held by Mr. J. Attwood, was transferred to his wife, and that of Mr. Heritage, of the Princess Royal, South Street, to his wife. It was stated that both Mr. Attwood and Mr. Heritage were joining H.M. Forces.

Folkestone Express 3-6-1916

Friday, May 26^th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Colonel Fynmore, Alderman Pepper, Councillor R.G. Wood, and H. Kirke Esq.

The licences of the Castle Inn, Foord Road, and the Princes Royal, South Street, were temporarily transferred from the landlords to their wives, the husbands having been called up for military service. It was elicited that the wives had assisted in the management of the houses, and that there would be a competent man left on each of the premises.

Folkestone Herald 8-7-1916

Local News

At a transfer Sessions at the Police Court on Wednesday, Mr. Percy Wm. Attwood, of the Castle Inn, Foord Road, applied for the transfer of the licence to his wife.  He had a man of over military age to assist his wife. He himself was going into the Navy. The transfer was allowed.

Folkestone Express 1-3-1919

Local News

The following licence was transferred at the Police Court on Wednesday: The Castle, Foord, to Mr. P.H. Attwood from his wife.

Folkestone Herald 1-3-1919

Local News

On Wednesday the Magistrates consented to the transfer of licence as follows: The Castle, Foord Road, from Mrs. Attwood to Mr. P.H. Attwood.

Folkestone Herald 28-6-1919

Local News

On Monday an empty red car was being driven up the incline leading from Foord into St. John`s Church Road when, owing to the steering gear becoming jammed, the vehicle, which had considerable “way” upon it, mounted the kerbstone, ran across the pavement, and dashed against the Castle Inn. That the impact must have been terrific is evident by the fact that the porch leading into the saloon bar was entirely demolished, whilst the surrounding brickwork was shifted or started in several places. A door, too, was moved out of position. It is expected that the whole side of the premises will have to be pulled down and rebuilt.

Mr. and Mrs. Pat Attwood were in one of the bars at the time, and were naturally rather startled, as were several customers. On the following morning Mr. Attwood got into conversation with the brewers (Messrs. Nalder and Collyer), and within a short time the firm`s surveyor was on the spot for the purpose of making a report. A well-known local builder estimates the damage at £200. The damaged saloon bar porch is temporarily strutted up, and business is carried on as usual.