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Saturday 18 January 2014

Updates

18th January, 2014: Folkestone Express Reports for 1914 Added.

15th January, 2014: Following damage to the electrical system after the recent heavy rains the newspaper readers at the Folkestone Library are currently unavailable. I have in store reports from Folkestone Express and Folkestone Herald for 1914, so posting will continue as normal for the next 2 weeks, but there may be some delays after these have been posted.

While these machines are unusable I will trawl through some papers available through the British Newspaper Archives, but this is very time-consuming and may not necessarily result in many additions.

Hopefully we will be back on track soon....................

Oddfellows Arms 1910 - 1919



Folkestone Daily News 11-1-1911

Wednesday, January 11th: Before Messrs. Ward, Vaughan, Linton, and Fynmore.

The licence of the Oddfellows Inn in Radnor Street was transferred from Mr. Shaw to Mr. G.C. Skinner, formerly of the Noah`s Ark, Deal, a beerhouse and lodging house which he had occupied 3½ years.

Mr. Shaw, in reply to the Chairman`s question as to why he was leaving, said he had been at the Oddfellows 5 years and wanted a change, saying a change was good for everyone.

The Chairman rejoined that he thought if he had a good thing he would have liked to keep it.

The Chairman warned Skinner he was running a risk in taking the house, as he did not know what might be done at the annual licensing meeting. They had recommended closing houses on former occasions, and if he took the transfer he must take the risk.

Mr. Skinner said he would do so.

Folkestone Express 14-1-1911

Wednesday, February 11th: Before E.T. Ward abd R.J. Linton Esqs., Alderman Vaughan, and Lieut. Col. Fynmore.

An application was made by Mr. George Skinner, of Deal, for the transfer of the licence of the Oddfellows Inn (sic), Radnor Street, from Mr. Shaw.

The Chairman asked the outgoing tenant why he was leaving the house.

Mr. Shaw: I want a change, sir. I have been there just on five years.

The Chairman: If you have a good thing, I wonder you leave it.

Mr. Shaw: A change is good for everyone sometimes.

The Chairman told the applicant that the licensing sessions were coming on in about a month`s time, and the Magistrates did not know what they were going to do yet. However, there were such things as houses being referred to the Quarter Sessions and being closed in consequence. He did not say anything about that house at present, but he warned Mr. Skinner that he was taking a risk in taking the house before the licensing sessions.

Mr. Skinner said he would take the risk.

The Magistrates thereupon granted the transfer.

Folkestone Herald 21-1-1911

Wednesday, January 18th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. R.J. Fynmore, Major E.T. Leggett, Aldermen T.J. Vaughan and C. Jenner, Councillors R.G. Wood and W.C. Young, and Messrs. W.G. Herbert, G.I. Swoffer, and R.J. Linton.

The Magistrates confirmed the transfer of the licence of the Oddfellows, Roadnor Street, from Mr. Robt. Shaw to Mr. James Skinner.

Folkestone Express 29-7-1911

Friday, July 21st: Before W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, G.I. Swoffer, and R.J. Linton Esqs.

John King was charged with being drunk and disorderly the previous night.

P.S. Sharpe said at about 10.30 the previous night he was on duty on the Stade, when he saw the prisoner, who was carrying a bundle of bulrushes, go into the Oddfellows public house. He was drunk, and was ejected by the landlord. When outside he used most filthy language, so he (witness), with the assistance of Inspector Lawrence, took him into custody.

Prisoner said he never spoke to anybody when he came out of the house.

The Chief Constable said the man was there two years ago for begging.

Fined 5s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days` hard labour. He went to prison.

Folkestone Daily News 24-6-1912

Saturday, June 22nd: Before Messrs. Herbert, Hamilton, Stace, Swoffer, Stainer, Boyd, and Linton.

Albert Phillips, a rough-looking man, was charged with stealing a Mackintosh the property of a grocer carrying on business in Alexandra Gardens.

The Mackintosh was placed in a garden at the back of prosecutor`s premises to dry. Susbequently the Mackintosh was missed and information was given to the police. The Mackintosh was missing on the 11th June, and next day it was returned to witness by P.C. Butcher. It was valued at 30s.

Det. Sergt. Leonard Johnson said he saw prisoner in Fenchurch Street and charged him with stealing the Mackintosh, and prisoner replied “A man gave it to me to sell for him; I did not steal it”. Witness had known the accused for two years as a rag and bone man.

The Chief Constable (in the absence of an important witness) asked for a remand of seven days, which was granted.

Folkestone Herald 29-6-1912

Saturday, June 22nd: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G. Boyd, Mr. R.J. Linton, and Councillor Stace.

Albert Phillips was charged with stealing a Mackintosh, the property of Thomas Stalley.

Mr. Stalley, grocer, carrying on business at 14, Alexandra Gardens, stated that at about 2.30 p.m. on the 6th inst., he placed a Mackintosh in the back yard of the premises to dry. There was an entrance to the back yard from Oxford Terrace. On the following morning, between 10 and 11 o`clock he missed the Mackintosh. He informed the police, and on the 12th inst. the Mackintosh was brought to him by P.C. Butcher. Its value was 30s. Witness had never seen prisoner near the premises.

Det. Officer Leonard Johnson said he saw prisoner in Fenchurch Street the previous evening at about 11 p.m. He told prisoner that he was a police officer, and prisoner replied “I know that”. He cautioned him, and told him he would charge him with stealing a gentleman`s Mackintosh from the rear of 14, Alexandra Gardens, between the 6th and 7th of this month. Prisoner replied “A man gave it to me to sell; I didn`t steal it”. Witness then showed him the Mackintosh produced, and said “This is the Mackintosh you are charged with stealing”. Prisoner replied “I am innocent of this dealing”.

The Chief Constable then applied for a remand as he had not completed his evidence.

Prisoner was accordingly remanded for a week.

Folkestone Daily News 29-6-1912

Saturday, June 29th: Before Messrs. Hamilton, Ward, Vaughan, Stainer and Boyd.

Albert Phillips was brought up on remand and charged with stealing a Mackintosh, the property of a grocer residing in Alexandra Gardens. Additional evidence was now called.

Mr. William Harris (a mariner), 8, St. Michael`s Square, deposed to the accused selling him the Mackintosh for one shilling and sixpence. Witness understood the accused to say that a gentleman had given him the Mackintosh. The Mackintosh was practically a new one.

John Baker, fisherman, of 21, Rossendale Road, said on the 6th inst. he was in company with the last witness in the bar of the Oddfellows Arms, when the accused entered the bar and offered the Mackintosh for sale at 2s. Harris said he did not want a Mackintosh, but eventually bought it for 1s. 6d. Witness heard the accused say “A gentleman gave me the Mackintosh”.

Prisoner was here cautioned, and said “I do not wish to say anything now”.

The Chief Constable (in answer to the Chairman) said prisoner had a terrible black record.

The man was then formally committed to take his trial at the next Quarter Sessions.

Folkestone Express 6-7-1912

Saturday, June 29th: Before Lieut. Col. Hamilton, J. Stainer, and G. Boyd Esqs.

Albert Phillips was brought up on remand charged with stealing a Mackintosh, the property of Mr. T.F. Stalley, 14, Alexandra Gardens.

The Chief Constable (Mr. Reeve) said the prisoner was remanded a week ago on the charge so that he could bring further evidence. He had two further witnesses to call, and if the Magistrates considered a prima facie case had been made out he should ask h them to commit him for trial at the next Quarter Sessions.

William harris, a fisherman, of 8, St. Michael`s Square, said on Thursday, June 6th, he was in the public bar of the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, at half past eight in the evening. The prisoner came into the bar wearing the Mackintosh coat produced. He asked him to buy it for 2s. He (witness) told him he did not want it, and he then offered it to him for 1s. 6d. He gave that money for the Mackintosh, which he took away with him. He did not ask the prisoner any questions about the coat, but he understood him to say that a gentleman gave it to him. He had seen the prisoner about the fishmarket for the last eighteen months when they came in from sea. He knew nothing more about it.

Cross-examined by prisoner: Phillips did not say anything to him about having the coat to sell for another man.

John Baker, a fisherman, 21, Rossendale Road, said about half past eight on the evening of June 6th he was in the bar of the Oddfellows with the last witness, when the prisoner came in wearing the Mackintosh. He offered to sell the coat for 2s. to the company in the bar. He said a gentleman had given it to him. Harris eventually bought it for 1s. 6d.

The Magistrates then committed Phillips for trial at the Quarter Sessions.

The Chairman, addressing the witness Harris, told him that he ought not to have bought the coat, as it was practically a new one, from a man of prisoner`s description. His expenses would be disallowed.

Folkestone Herald 6-7-1912

Saturday, June 29th: Before Lieut. Colonel Hamilton, Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman T.J. Vaughan, Mr. J. Stainer, and Mr. G. Boyd.

Albert Phillips was charged on remand with stealing a Mackintosh, the property of Thomas Stalley. The previous evidence was read over.

William Harris, 8, St. Michael`s Square, said he was in the bar of the Oddfellows Arms at about 8.30 on June 8th, when prisoner came in wearing the Mackintosh produced. He offered it for sale for 2s. Witness said he did not want it, but eventually bought it for 1s. 6d., and took it home. He understood prisoner to say that a gentleman gave it to him to sell. He did not know prisoner, but had seen him about the Fishmarket for the last 18 months.

John Baker, of 21, Rossendale Road, deposed to seeing prisoner sell the Mackintosh to the last witness for 1s. 6d.

Prisoner, who said he had nothing to say, was committed for trial at the Summer Quarter Sessions.

Mr. Harris was reprimanded for purchasing the Mackintosh at such a price from a stranger.

Folkestone Daily News 13-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Albert Phillips, 62, labourer, who was committed for trial on the 6th of June for stealing a Mackintosh coat, value £1 10s. 0d., the property of Thomas Stalley, pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. Weigall prosecuted for the Crown.

After hearing the evidence of Thomas Harris, who purchased the Mackintosh from the prisoner for 1s. 6d. (prisoner having previously asked 2s. for it),

The Recorder (to Harris): Hold the Mackintosh up. It is a good one for 1s. 6d., is it not?

Witness: It was no good to me. I bought it because I thought it had been given to him.

John Baker, of 21, Rossendale Road, a Folkestone fisherman, deposed to seeing the prisoner wearing the Mackintosh (produced) in the Oddfellows Arms. Prisoner offered the Mackintosh for 2s., and Harris subsequently bought it for 1s. 6d.

Prisoner said at the beginning of June he had been out all day, and bought some old clothes which he sold to fishermen`s wives while in the market. A man came to him and offered him the coat to sell. He refused at first, but later the man offered him a drink of beer for selling it. Prisoner made a lengthy statement in which he did not neglect to point out his honesty, and in stating that after selling the coat for 1/6 he gave it to the gentleman, who offered him twopence, but as that was all the money the man had he would not take his twopence. Later prisoner went strike-breaking and earned a few pounds. If he had stolen the Mackintosh – why, it stood to reason that he would not have returned to Folkestone to be locked up.

The jury returned a verdict of Guilty of stealing the coat.

The Chief Constable proved previous convictions, including 20 convictions all for stealing. At Maidstone prisoner had been sentenced to twelve months for unlawfully wounding a warder. So far as the Chief Constable knew prisoner had been trying to get an honest living while here.

Prisoner was sentenced to three years` penal servitude.

Folkestone Express 20-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Albert Phillips, 62, labourer, was charged with stealing a Mackintosh coat, valued at £1 10s., the property of Mr. T. Stalley, Alexandra Gardens, on June 6th. He pleaded Not Guilty. Mr. Weigall prosecuted.

Thomas Stally, a grocer, said the Mackintosh coat was his property, and he valued it at £1 10s. On June 6th he hung it outside on a nail in the backyard to dry. There was a passage from Oxford Terrace to the gates of the backyards in Alexandra Gardens. He locked his gate at a quarter past five, but he did not notice that the coat was missing until the following day. He next saw it on the 12th.

Prisoner: Can you swear on oath that you saw me steal the coat?

Witness: No.

Detective Johnson said at 11 p.m. on June 21st he saw the prisoner in Fenchurch Street. When he charged him with stealing the coat, he replied “I had it given to me to sell by a man”. At the police station, when charged, he said “I am innocent of the stealing”.

William Harris, a fisherman, of 8, St. Michael`s Square, said on June 6th, at about half past eight in the evening, he was in the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, when the prisoner came in wearing the Mackintosh coat, which he understood him to say was given to him by a gentleman. He asked him to buy the coat for 2s., but he told him he did not want it, as it was no good to him. Prisoner then said “Give me 1s. 6d. for it”, so he bought it for that.

In reply to the Recorder, the witness said he had seen the prisoner about the Fish Market, but had never seen him doing any work.

John Baker, a fisherman, of 21, Rossendale Road, corroborated Harris`s evidence, and cross-examined by the prisoner, he said he did not see him steal the coat, nor did he know it was stolen.

Prisoner made a statement from the dock, refusing to give evidence on oath. He said he was out selling old clothes on the Fish Market, when a man came up to him and asked him to sell the coat, which he was wearing. He asked him where he got it from, and he said it was his own. He further said he was a stranger and could not sell the coat, for no-one would buy it from him, and he had no money for his lodgings or food. He promised to try and sell it for him, and he went into the public house wearing the coat. He sold it for 1s. 6d., which he gave to the man, and refused to take a pint of beer out of it. Later he was called to go to Southampton Docks to fill the place of the strikers. He earned £3 6s. 6d. there in ten days, in addition to his railway fare, and that would have been sufficient to take him to any part of the country. If he had stolen the coat, was it likely he would have come back to Folkestone? It was not reasonable to think he would have done so. He was Guilty of selling the coat, but not of stealing it.

The Recorder, in summing up, pointed out that the prisoner had not told the police who the man was from whom he bought the coat, so that they could have tried to find the man; neither had he told them who the man was that day.

The jury found the prisoner Guilty.

The Chief Constable said there were 20 convictions altogether against the prisoner, dating from March 9th, 1891. On February 18th, 1895, he received twelve months` hard labour at Surrey Sessions; twelve months` the following year at the Surrey Sessions for stealing; on April 14th, 1899, six months` hard labour and two years` police supervision at Surrey Sessions; on September 8th, 1903, at the Central Criminal Court, three years` penal servitude for warehouse-breaking; on July 4th, 1904, he was charged unlawfully wounding a warder in prison at Maidstone, whilst undergoing the previous sentence, and was sentenced to a further twelve months` hard labour. There were nine of the convictions for summary offences. For the past fifteen or eighteen months he had been selling flowers, gathering rags and bones about the town, and he had no idea the prisoner had such a record behind him as that.

Prisoner said he had been trying to get an honest living during the time he had been there.

The Recorder ordered the prisoner three years` penal servitude.

Folkestone Herald 20-7-1912

Quarter Sessions

Saturday, July 13th: Before J.C. Lewis Coward Esq.

Albert Phillips, 62, labourer, was indicted for stealing, on June 6th, a Mackintosh coat, value £1 10s., the property of Thomas Stalley. Mr. Weigall prosecuted.

Prisoner admitted selling the coat for 1s. 6d., but said he did not steal it.

Thomas Stalley, a grocer, of Alexandra Gardens, stated that on the 5th June he hung the Mackintosh, which he valued at 30s., in his back yard to dry. There was an entrance from Oxford Terrace, and the gate was open, probably, from 10 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. He missed the coat at about 11 o`clock. He gave information to the police at once, and saw it on the following Wednesday, the 12th.

Prisoner: Did you see me near the premises? – No.

Prisoner: Could you swear that you saw me steal the coat? – No.

Detective Officer Johnson deposed to seeing prisoner at about 11 o`clock on the 12th June in Fenchurch Street, and, after cautioning him, charged him with stealing the Mackintosh from Alexandra Gardens, between 6 and 7 o`clock on the 6th June. Accused said “I had it given to me to sell”.

Prisoner (to witness): How long have you known me in Folkestone, sit? – About eighteen months.

Have you ever seen me sell anything in the Market during the time I have been in Folkestone? – I have seen you sell flowers, and rags and bones.

I have sold a good many thing in the market place? – All manner of things.

William Harris stated that he lived at 8, St. Michael`s Street, and was a fisherman. On the 6th June, at 8.30 p.m., he was in the Oddfellows Arms, when the prisoner came in wearing a mackintosh. He understood accused to say that a gentleman gave it to him, and he asked witness to buy it. Accused did not mention a sum, but afterwards asked witness to give him 2s. for it. Witness did not want the coat. It was not the sort of coat he wore, but he eventually gave accused 1s. 6d. for it. He recognised the coat produced as the one he bought. He had seen the accused in the Fishmarket. He had never seen him do any work.

John Baker, a fisherman, of 21, Rossendale Road, said he was in the Oddfellows Arms, and saw the coat sold to the last witness for 1s. 6d.

Prisoner: did you see me steal the coat? – No, I never saw you steal the coat.

Prisoner: Did you know it was stolen? – If we had known it was stolen, it would not have been bought.

Prisoner gave a rambling statement, in which he asserted that he had always tried to get an honest living. He sold a few rags and things. He sold things to the fishermen`s wives, and during the time he was there on this day a man came up to him and said “Can you sell this?”, (meaning the coat). Witness said “I do not want it. I have no money. I have some things here to sell”. The man said to him “If you like, you can sell it and have a drink of beer out of it”. He (prisoner) said “I do not want a drink of beer out of it”. The man said “Very well, sell it”. He (prisoner) said “Where did you get it from?”, and the man replied “It is my own”. He then said “Why can`t you sell it?”, and the man replied “I am a stranger here. I could not sell it”. Accused then said “Very well; I will sell it for you. You have no lodgings and no food. I will try to sell it if it is honest”. He had no sooner got it than he (prisoner) went and sold things to the fishermen`s wives. He sold the coat afterwards for 1s. 6d. The man said “Take 2d. out of it”. He said “If that is all the money you have got, I do not want your pint of beer. I have one of my own”. The man said “All right”, and went away. Two days after that accused was called away to Southampton docks during the strike. He went there for ten days, and earned a few pounds. He then returned to Folkestone. He asked if it was feasible that if he was a guilty man he would deliberately have come back to Folkestone to be taken by the police. Was it not reasonable to think that he would have gone as many miles away as possible from the town? He never stole the Mackintosh. He had evidence to prove that when he got back to Folkestone he received a cheque for £3 3s. for his work at Southampton. Why did he want to steal a Mackintosh when he had money of his own?

The learned Recorder said when before the Magistrates the accused said he had nothing to say. Now he said for the first time that a man had given him the coat. Prisoner had made no attempt to find the man.

The jury found the accused Guilty, and he admitted that he was convicted for felony at Lewes Assizes in 1910 in the name of Alfred Phillips.

The Chief Constable said the accused`s record was a very bad one indeed. The convictions dated from the 9th March, 1891, and included convictions for theft, sentences of penal servitude in 1903 at the Central Criminal Court for housebreaking, twelve months` imprisonment in 1904 at Maidstone for unlawfully wounding a warder, whilst he was yet under sentence, and for assault.

Prisoner: Have I not been trying to get an honest living since I have been here? – For all I know you have.

The Recorder sentenced accused to three years penal servitude.

Folkestone Herald 9-11-1912

Tuesday, November 5th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Major Leggett, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Alderman F. Hall, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Councillor A. Stace, and Mr. E.T. Morrison.

John King was charged with stealing a waterproof coat, value £2 4s., the property of the Rev. Ambrose Hertzberg, from the hall of a dwelling house at 16, The Leas.

P.S. Sales deposed that at about 10 p.m. the previous day, from information he received, he went, in company with P.C. Hy. Johnson, and made certain inquiries. At about 10.15 he went into the Lord Nelson public house in Radnor Street, and in there he saw prisoner sitting on a seat in company with another man and a woman. The coat produced was lying on the seat, by the side of prisoner. Witness picked it up and, examining it, asked the three persons where they had got it from. The other man replied “You let that alone”. Prisoner said “That`s mine, sergeant. I bought it off a man for 1s.”. Witness asked him who the man was, and prisoner replied that he did not know him. Witness then told King that he was not satisfied with his statement, and he would have to come to the police station for inquiries. The other man said “I was with him when he bought it”. Prisoner picked up a basket that was lying on the seat, and witness brought him to the police station. Later, in consequence of a telephone message, he went to 16, The Leas, where he showed the coat produced to the Rev. Hertzberg. He then returned to the police station, and charged prisoner with stealing the coat from the hall of 16, The Leas. He replied “Right, you charge me with stealing it”.

The Chief Constable asked for a remand for a week as the Rev. Hertzberg was away.

A remand was granted.

Folkestone Daily News 12-11-1912

Tuesday, November 12th: Before The Mayor, Messrs. Herbert, Boyd, Vaughan, Harrison, Stace, Linton, Ward, Stainer, Fynmore, Giles, Morrison and Wood.

John King was charged, on remand, with stealing a coat from No. 16, The Leas.

The Rev. E. Hertzberg, residing at 16, The Leas, now identified the coat as his property. He gave £2 10s. 0d. for it in August. On the 4th inst. he saw the coat safe in the hall. It was there at 7 p.m., and witness missed it at 10 p.m., and at once gave information to the police by telephone. At 10.30 the same evening Sergt. Sales brought the coat to witness, who identified it.

Arthur Goddard, a fisherman, residing at 58, Dudley Road, said on Monday, November 4th, at 8.30 p.m., he was in the public bar of the Oddfellows, Radnor Street. Prisoner came in the bar. Witness saw the man offer a coat for sale for 3s. to anyone in the bar. The coat was similar to the one produced, both in appearance and colour. Prisoner said the coat had been given to him at the upper end of the town. The landlord told prisoner he would not allow anything to be sold upon his premises. After that witness did not know what became of the prisoner or the coat.

Sergt. Sales proved the arrest of the prisoner at the Lord Nelson, Radnor Street, on the 4th inst.

Prisoner pleaded Guilty.

The Chief Constable said that from enquiries (by means of the man`s fingerprints) he had found that the man was a travelling thief with over 20 convictions against him. Quite recently he had been convicted of a similar theft at Eastbourne.

Prisoner was sentenced to two months` hard labour.

The Chairman of the Bench (Alderman Herbert) publicly thanked the landlord of the Oddfellows for refusing to allow goods to be sold on his premises.
 
Folkestone Herald 16-11-1912

Tuesday, November 12th: Before The Mayor, Mr. E.T. Ward, Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, Major G.E. Leggett, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison, and Councillor A. Stace.

John King appeared on remand, charged with stealing an overcoat, the property of the Rev. A. Hertzberg.

The Rev. Abraham Mendel Hertzberg, of 16, The Leas, identified the coat produced as his property. He valued it at £2 4s. On Monday, November 4th, at 10 p.m., he missed it from the outer hall of his residence. He gave information to the police at once by telephone. At about 10 the same night the coat was handed to him by P.S. Sales.

Arthur Goddard, a fishmonger, of 38, Dudley Road, deposed that on Monday, November 4th, about 8.30 p.m., he was standing in the bar of the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, when he saw the prisoner in the bar. Accused offered the coat for sale for 3s. It was a general offer to everyone. The coat was one similar in colour and appearance to the one produced. He said a gentleman or a friend (he could not remember which), who lived at the other end of the town, had given him the coat. No-one bought it, because the landlord said he would not allow anything to be sold on the premises. Prisoner went out.

P.S. Sales was then called, and the evidence he gave at the previous hearing was read over and confirmed.

Prisoner pleaded Guilty, and said he had nothing to add.

The Chief Constable said that when he was arrested nothing was known about the prisoner. However, he had had his fingerprints taken, and had found out there were over twenty previous convictions against him. He was convicted at Hastings, Eastbourne and Brighton for similar offences.

Mr. Herbert, who was Chairman when the case was first heard, said that evidently prisoner made a practice to go about, and when he saw a door open go in and get what he could. He would be sentenced to two months` hard labour.

The landlord of the Oddfellows Arms was then called, and Mr. Herbert said the Bench wished to thank him for the action he had taken in refusing to allow anything to be sold on his premises. He only wished that all the publicans would take up the same attitude as he had.

Folkestone Express 15-3-1913

Adjourned Licensing Sessions

At the annual licensing sessions seven licences were deferred to the adjourned sessions, which were held at the Town Hall on Monday. The Magistrates on the Bench were E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Alderman Jenner, and W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, W.J. Harrison, J.J. Giles, E.T. Morrison and A. Stace Esqs.

Mr. Jennings, of Canterbury, presented plans for alterations at the Oddfellows Arms, in Radnor Street, and they were approved of.

Folkestone Herald 15-3-1913

Adjourned Licensing Sessions

The adjourned Annual Folkestone Licensing Sessions were held at the Police Court on Monday, when the licences of the seven houses deferred at the Annual General Sessions came up for hearing. Mr. E.T. Ward was in the chair, and he was supported by Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut. Colonel C.J. Hamilton, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Alderman C. Jenner, Captain Chamier, Mr. J.J. Giles, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison and Councillor A. Stace.

Plans were submitted for alterations to the Oddfellows Arms, and these were passed.


Folkestone Express 31-10-1914


Saturday, October 24th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore and Col. Owen.

Edward Albert King, a soldier, was charged with wilfully breaking a window at the Oddfellows Inn, Radnor Street, the previous evening. He pleaded Guilty.

George Skinner, the landlord of the Oddfellows Inn, Radnor Street, said the previous evening, about 7.20, the prisoner came into his house and asked to be served. He, however, refused him and told him he had had sufficient to drink. Prisoner commenced to use bad language, and he told him to get outside. King came back two or three minutes after, and his (witness`s) wife, who was in the front of the bar, asked him why he did not go away. The prisoner it the plate glass windows with his hand, but did no damage to them. He then went into the passage and smashed a glass window, five feet five inches from the ground. Prisoner`s hand was cut, and he immediately ran away. Later he (witness) saw him in the Ship public house, and gave him into custody. He asked him why he had broken the window, and the prisoner replied that he slipped and fell through the window.

Prisoner said he really did not know what did occur as he was under the influence of drink.

An officer from the battery to which prisoner belonged said King`s conduct as a soldier had been satisfactory.

The Chairman said they were also sorry to see one of His Majesty`s soldiers before them. They hoped the prisoner would take that as a lesson. He would have to pay the damage, 7/6, and 3/- costs.