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Monday 1 October 2012

Star (2) 1890s



Folkestone Chronicle 22-2-1890

Thursday, February 20th: Before J. Clarke Esq., and Alderman Pledge.

Harry Austin and John Sullivan were charged with stealing one pair of stockings, one cotton shirt, and one sheet, valued at 5s., the property of Mrs. Kennard, on the 19th instant.

Mary Ann Kennard, living at 60, Dover Street, said she hung some clothes out to dry at the back of her house on the 19th instant. Amongst the articles there were a pair of stockings, a cotton shirt and a sheet. She last saw the articles safe at four o`clock and missed them about seven. She went to the police station about nine o`clock, and she was then shown the sheet. It was her property. She identified it by it`s general appearance. The articles were worth 5s.

Harry Spillett, landlord of the Star Inn, said the prisoner went to his house at seven o`clock on Wednesday evening. Austin showed him a sheet and asked him to buy it, but he refused. Sullivan asked witness to buy a shirt and a pair of stockings, but he refused. He offered them to some people in the taproom, but no-one would buy them.

Ann Warwick, a servant employed at the Marquis Of Lorne, said the prisoner had lodged at the Marquis Of Lorne for a week. She met them at the Radnor Street arches on Wednesday night. Sullivan pulled out a shirt from his coat and asked her if she could sell it. She said she did not know where to sell such a thing.

P.C. Knowles said he saw Austin on Wednesday evening outside of the Marquis Of Lorne with a bundle. He followed him through the house and asked him his name. He said “Johnson”. Austin said “That`s my parcel”. On the way to the station he said “It`s no use; my name is not Johnson, it`s Austin”.

P.S. Butcher said he saw the prisoner Sullivan outside of the Brewery Tap on Wednesday evening, and charged him with being concerned in the theft. He replied “All right, sergeant”

Sentenced to one month`s hard labour.

Holbein`s Visitors` List 18-3-1891

Wednesday, March 11th: Before W. Wightwick Esq., Surgeon General Gilbourne, and W.G. Herbert Esq.

The license of the Marquis Of Lorne was transferred to Mr. Spillett, who holds the licence of the Star Inn, a house which Supt. Taylor said was conducted in a very proper manner.

Folkestone Chronicle 2-7-1892

Local Bankruptcy

Re. Robert Harold Carter, of 4, East Cliff, Folkestone, lately residing and carryong on business at the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, Folkestone, fisherman. The statement of affairs shows unsecured creditors to the extent of £176 17s. 5d., and creditors for rates, etc., amounting to £6 8s. 2d. The causes o failure are alleged to be – loss of a set of heaving nets at sea, loss of £78 by a collision with a Dover smack, and loss of fishing lugger by sinking in Folkestone, estimated value £100.

The Official Receiver observes: The Receiving Order was made on the debtor`s petition, and he has been adjudicated bankrupt on his own application. The bankrupt commenced business about 14 years ago as a fisherman at Folkestone with the boat “R.H.C”. About eight years ago he was put into the Star public house, Radnor Street, Folkestone, to manage the same for the brewers, and after managing it for four years he took the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street, the valuation amounting to £17. This house was carried on until 26th April last, when it was given up upon notice from the landlord. The valuation on leaving amounted to £97, which has to be deducted from the amount owing to the brewers, which is stated to be £164 6s.7d. The bankrupt continued to carry on the fisherman`s business with the boat “R.H.C” until September last, when she became waterlogged and sank in Folkestone Harbour. Although the boat was insured for £100, the bankrupt has been unable to recover the insurance, which only extended to losses at sea. The furniture is claimed by the bankrupt`s wife as having been purchased by her out of her own monies both before and after her marriage. This claim has not yet been admitted. The bankrupt states he first became aware that his property was insufficient to pay his debts in full about 14 years ago. The bankrupt has not kept any books of account.

Folkestone Express 9-7-1892

Bankruptcy

At the sitting of the Bankruptcy Court on Friday, a local debtor presented himself for examination.

Robert Harold Carter

The debtor is a fisherman, and formerly kept the Oddfellows Arms, Radnor Street. The total liabilities were £176 17s. 5d. Creditors for rates &c., £6 8s. 2d., and there were no assets.

In reply to the Official Receiver, the debtor said he now resided at 4, East Cliff; he formerly kept the Oddfellows Arms, and previous to that the Star Inn. He took the Star about eight years ago. About four years ago he was put into the Oddfellows. He was paid no salary, but had the profits on the beer – really he carried the business on in his own name, and the licence was in his name. He paid no valuation when he went in, but had paid it by instalments. He carried on business until April the 26th, when he left, the landlord giving him notice to quit. The valuation then came to £97. He had considerably increased the valuation. He owed the brewers £165 6s. 7d., and the £97 was deducted. He continued to carry on the fishing business, but his lugger, the “R.H.C.”, got waterlogged and sank in Folkestone Harbour. She got waterlogged through the men leaving the plug out whilst he was engaged one day in connection with his licence. The next day she foundered. He did not get her up again.

The Registrar: Then she couldn`t have been much good before she foundered? – No. She was an old vessel.

The Registrar: I can`t quite see how a vessel sunk in Folkestone Harbour could not be got up again if she was worth anything.

The Official Receiver: Was she insured for £100? – Yes.

How was it you did not apply for the amount to be paid? – Because our insurance is only for total loss.

It would not be the case, then, if the vessel was sunk in Folkestone Harbour? – No.

She was on her last legs, wasn`t she? – Yes.

The Registrar: Did you ever try to get the insurance? – No. It was no use unless she was a total loss.

Haven`t you had a meeting with the committee to try to get the money? – Yes.

Did you argue the matter with them? – No. It was no use.

Didn`t you assert that you were entitled to it? - No. There was a rule under which I was not entitled.

The Official Receiver: Your wife claims the furniture. When were you married? – Fourteen years ago on the 30th of last May.

Why does she claim the furniture? – She bought it.

What with? – Her own money.

Where did she get it from? – I don`t know. It was her own earnings.

How did she earn the money? What did she do? – She kept a lodging house.

Where? – She used to take lodgers at the Oddfellows.

But that was your business, wasn`t it? – She took in lodgers before.

The Official Receiver said he could not allow the wife to have the furniture.

The Registrar: What did you do with the boat? Did you sell it? – No. I made off with it.

But the wood was worth something? – Yes. The wood was sold for a sovereign.

Who sold the material? – I was £2 in debt for harbour dues.

Then the harbour people had the sovereign? – Yes.

Would not the stores and sails realise more than £1? – The stores were all washed away when she sunk.

I suppose they were not worth much? – No.

The Official Receiver: Do you occupy 35, Radnor Street at 5s. 8d. a week? – I have taken it for my daughter and my nephew. The furniture in it is my daughter`s. She has lived there about three or four years. She was my daughter by my first marriage. She is married, and the husband earns the living by fishing. None of my furniture is there. I have no property there belonging to my creditors.

Be careful. Mr. Banks informs me that there is. – No.

No sails, or ropes, or spars, or anything? – No.

Nothing from the public house? – No.

No sails, or wines, or spirits? – No.

Now, be very careful! If I find it out you know you will get into trouble? – There is nothing whatever.

You have nothing except this furniture, which is claimed by your wife? – I have nothing, only what I stand upright in.

During the 14 years you have been in business you have always been in trouble? – Always.

The examination was then adjourned till the 29th.

Folkestone Chronicle 29-8-1896

Monday, August 24th: Before Messrs. J. Banks and W.G. Herbert.

A labourer working on the Hotel Metropole was charged with being drunk and disorderly in Radnor Street.

P.C. Burniston said he saw prisoner in Radnor Street shortly after midnight on Saturday, knocking at the Star public house. He was drunk, shouting, and making use of obscene language. Witness took him into custody as he refused to desist, and said he wanted to be locked up. Witness understood that previously he had fallen into four feet of water in the harbour.

The Superintendent said that when prisoner was brought to the police station his clothes were saturated. He had only just put them n, as they had been drying.

He was fined 2s. 6d. and 4s. 6d. costs, or seven days`. He asked for time to pay, but it was refused, as he had nearly 10s. on him.

Folkestone Express 29-8-1896

Local New


On Monday, Frederick Pearson, a labourer, was charged with drunkenness It appeared that a constable found him outside the Star Inn at 12.30 on Sunday morning making a disturbance. His clothing was soaking wet, and he said he had tumbled into the Harbour. Defendant stated that he had been lodging at a certain house, but the landlord had let his bed that night to another man, and he was going round from house to house to try and find another. The Bench fined him 2s. 6d. and 4s. 6d. costs, which he asked time to pay, but as he had money upon him the Superintendent thought he had better oppose the application, and defendant therefore paid the money.

Folkestone Up To Date 17-12-1898

Saturday, December 10th: Before J. Fitness, W.G. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey Esqs.

Edward Wilson was summoned for being drunk in charge of a carriage in Rendezvous Street on the 2nd December.

P.C. Lawrence said: On Friday morning, the 2nd inst., I saw the defendant drunk in a cart. He was swaying to and fro, and the reins were lying loose.

The defendant, in reply to the charge, told the Magistrates that he went to the Star to get some refreshment, and having had none for two or three years he knew no more until he came to himself at the police station. He was very sorry to have given so much trouble; he thanked the police for taking care of him, and he trusted he would never offend again.

The Chairman: You put yourself in a very dangerous position. If you can`t take care of yourself it is very good there are people to take care of you.

The defendant was fined 10s., and 9s. costs, in default 14 days`.

The fine was paid.

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